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sid · 06-03-2012, 07:39 PM

If a host is ignoring DMCA notifications what is the next step to take down a site ?

cosis · 06-03-2012, 08:03 PM

Sue them

AAB · 06-03-2012, 08:08 PM

Sometimes when site is run by Russians (or any of former Soviet states) and hosted in a similar country, you won't even hear back from anyone let alone have the site taken down. I found the next best thing to do was to notify Google to at least have their pages removed from the rank. Though one big time thief who steals my content a lot had at least a 100 pages unlisted from Google yet they still rank them high for everything. Hundreds of take down notices and it did not hurt their overall ranking one bit.

baddog · 06-03-2012, 08:18 PM

Registrar?

Konda · 06-03-2012, 08:23 PM

If the host is not in the USA they have nothing to do with DMCA. You have to go trough the appropriate channels in that specific country.

Like for example Leaseweb in The Netherlands ignores DMCA requests, because they don't have anything to do with US law. They are in The Netherlands so they have to comply to the law there and ask you to submit the removal request according to NL laws/standards instead.

If the host is in the US they have to comply to US law, if they are not in the US they have to comply to the laws in their own country.

Major (Tom) · 06-03-2012, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sid

If a host is ignoring DMCA notifications what is the next step to take down a site ?

try sending it in russian.
send to upstream. then get an attornery
ds

AllAboutCams · 06-03-2012, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda

If the host is not in the USA they have nothing to do with DMCA. You have to go trough the appropriate channels in that specific country.

Like for example Leaseweb in The Netherlands ignores DMCA requests, because they don't have anything to do with US law. They are in The Netherlands so they have to comply to the law there and ask you to submit the removal request according to NL laws/standards instead.

If the host is in the US they have to comply to US law, if they are not in the US they have to comply to the laws in their own country.

is leaseweb any good

CyberHustler · 06-03-2012, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sid

If a host is ignoring DMCA notifications what is the next step to take down a site ?

Hire a hitman

Due · 06-03-2012, 10:10 PM

Report it to the major backbone providers. They can black-hole the IPs

Even if it's not their initial responsibility they have to review it each time, and that cost them money. If you annoy them enough they will take some actions

DWB · 06-03-2012, 11:35 PM

If it's a USA host, get a lawyer and sue the piss out of them.

Spunky · 06-03-2012, 11:47 PM

Send Bubba over to talk to them

BNMedia · 06-04-2012, 02:50 AM

Block Russia from your sites. I did and have seen a huge drop in our content being shared ever since!

pornguy · 06-04-2012, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Registrar?

Now thats funny.

Try the upstream provider for the host.

u-Bob · 06-04-2012, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

send to upstream.

that .

chaze · 06-04-2012, 06:28 AM

What host? Most will if you can prove the content is yours and is not allowed to be shared.

Brad Mitchell · 06-04-2012, 07:07 AM

What is the site or web host?

Brad

Django · 06-04-2012, 07:21 AM

ask google to remove the indexed page
https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/removals

ravo · 06-04-2012, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda

If the host is not in the USA they have nothing to do with DMCA. You have to go trough the appropriate channels in that specific country.

Like for example Leaseweb in The Netherlands ignores DMCA requests, because they don't have anything to do with US law. They are in The Netherlands so they have to comply to the law there and ask you to submit the removal request according to NL laws/standards instead.

If the host is in the US they have to comply to US law, if they are not in the US they have to comply to the laws in their own country.

+1 Perfect Response. Remember that DMCA only applies in the US. If the host is outside the US, use the corresponding rules for takedowns in that country.

Barefootsies · 06-04-2012, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravo

+1 Perfect Response. Remember that DMCA only applies in the US. If the host is outside the US, use the corresponding rules for takedowns in that country.

Correct.

I recall there is a law that either the EU, or some of the countries in the EU follow that is similar to DMCA over there. The name escapes me at the moment. But if you have a lawyer involved, I am sure they can find it easily enough. Good luck chief.

sid · 06-04-2012, 09:57 AM

Host is http://www.altushost.com/

hetzner.de which is the upstream provider just saying
they do not host the site so they are not responsible

chaze · 06-04-2012, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sid

Host is http://www.altushost.com/

hetzner.de which is the upstream provider just saying
they do not host the site so they are not responsible

Yep, they have almost no copyright laws there. Sorry

sid · 06-04-2012, 04:06 PM

Thanks for all the info.....I will see what I can work out.....

Major (Tom) · 06-04-2012, 11:27 PM

anyone have a form for takedown directions for leaseweb?
ds

Deej · 06-04-2012, 11:34 PM

What host...

sid · 06-05-2012, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Django

ask google to remove the indexed page
https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/removals

Do you know if google will only remove the URLs with the content or a complete site ?

xp-ViT · 06-05-2012, 02:34 PM

tell us the target site, We probably can help you abusing.

Brad Mitchell · 06-05-2012, 03:46 PM

As far as my research digs up it is a shit bag host. What is the web site with the infringing content?

Brad

TheSwed · 06-07-2012, 07:37 AM

you always try the processing company http://www.2checkout.com

Django · 06-07-2012, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sid

Do you know if google will only remove the URLs with the content or a complete site ?

No, I don't
here a couple of tools
http://support.google.com/bin/static...905&page=ts.cs
http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/

TheSwed · 06-07-2012, 08:03 AM

You can always...should it be

cgiGeek · 06-07-2012, 08:21 AM

ping domain, search for ip here http://whois.arin.net/ui
resend DMCA to all listed, check daily

ajrocks · 06-07-2012, 09:56 AM

go after the domain.

kristin · 06-07-2012, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sid

Do you know if google will only remove the URLs with the content or a complete site ?

Just the URLs with content. Google Lady Gaga Download and then scroll to the bottom and you'll see what happens with the Google takedowns.

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Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	If the host is not in the USA they have nothing to do with DMCA. You have to go trough the appropriate channels in that specific country. Like for example Leaseweb in The Netherlands ignores DMCA requests, because they don't have anything to do with US law. They are in The Netherlands so they have to comply to the law there and ask you to submit the removal request according to NL laws/standards instead. If the host is in the US they have to comply to US law, if they are not in the US they have to comply to the laws in their own country.

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sid Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 105	Host is http://www.altushost.com/ hetzner.de which is the upstream provider just saying they do not host the site so they are not responsible

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