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Old 06-06-2012, 02:47 PM   #101
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CCBill & Oron

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Old 06-06-2012, 02:59 PM   #102
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What a slap in our faces. I'm in total shock over this. It's truly shameful and makes me sick.

I've had to waste my time sending Oron thousands of DMCA notices (thank god they actually take mine down). In fact I have 20 or 30 of my videos in my ongoing STOLEN VIDEOS list to send them today.
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The little guys, mom and pop operators of adult sites and their affiliates, made the Caldwell family hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. I'm told Ron is a BILLIONAIRE, possibly the only billionaire ever in the porn industry. This is just a shameless and shameful kick in the nuts to the tens of thousands of us CCBILL clients and affiliates.
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Old 06-06-2012, 03:04 PM   #104
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Looks like ccbill has pulled out from oron.
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I hope thats true.....
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Old 06-06-2012, 03:22 PM   #106
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I had no doubt that ccbill will work it out and stop billing for ORON. CCbill is the straightest company in adult and the most reliable. Just the fact that they stayed away from aggressive pre-checked cross sales in the past - gives our industry a lot of loyal members nowadays. Lot's of members join only CCbill sites because of that.

Saying that, sometimes we need to wake them up like in this thread, great job guys )
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Old 06-06-2012, 03:56 PM   #107
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the real surprise here is how desperate file locker sites are getting now, few years ago they wouldn't have had to try to use ccbill
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Strange. It's totally banned for me on Google mobile in the US..
Banned here on all google versions,says:
In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org.
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Old 06-06-2012, 04:25 PM   #109
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No answer from CCBill to this thread?


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No answer from CCBill to this thread?


well if they've cut off business with ORON then there's no reason for them to answer here.
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Doesn't CCBill also process for a bunch of "gf" sites that have no 2257 info as well?

It's awfully frustrating. Especially when Visa & even worse MasterCard are all over honest webmasters for dotting every "i" and crossing every "t". You can't even use the word "force" in a description on your site. Just try it. Write the words "she forced open the bottle of mustard" on your paysite. Master Card's bot will flag it and they will shut down your processing.

But yet...they allow CC Bill to process Oron? What a crock of shit.
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Old 06-06-2012, 05:25 PM   #113
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Yes they do as well as for other file sharing/forum sites, so this whole blowup over oron has been pretty strange to me.
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Yes they do as well as for other file sharing/forum sites, so this whole blowup over oron has been pretty strange to me.
Maybe there should be a "blowup" over the rest of that stuff too.
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Maybe there should be a "blowup" over the rest of that stuff too.
I've always assumed there was a reason it was allowed to continue, but perhaps the events of the last day or so have changed the game.
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doing the same shit with http://www.filefactory.com apparently...
even Paypal is doing it...



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Old 06-06-2012, 05:50 PM   #117
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Just like whack-a-mole

Those of us who are really in the adult industry are being shit on from every side it seems.
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Old 06-06-2012, 05:56 PM   #118
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I never knew about oron.com before this thread..wow..
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since its only mastercard processing im guessing they signed up and got approved without anyone noticing who they were. hopefully ccbill will do the right thing and kill their account
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Similar to a lot of other rapidshare clones, but with a lot more porn.
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same shit with http://uploaded.to etc.. etc..





Paypal is processing pretty much all of them...
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It's hard to speak to the hypocrisy of Pay Pay...but what the FUCK is CC Bill doing?

Apparently if you are an honest webmaster they do an anal probe of your site to determine if you break any of their rules.

But if you are a goddamn THIEF then they process you like it's no problem. And then make excuses that they "didn't know"

Unreal.
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so forward your dmca's to them and they'll act on it. if u look at any of these filelocker sites you wont see any illegal activities on the front end. its how they can pass through
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It's hard to speak to the hypocrisy of Pay Pay...but what the FUCK is CC Bill doing?

Apparently if you are an honest webmaster they do an anal probe of your site to determine if you break any of their rules.

But if you are a goddamn THIEF then they process you like it's no problem. And then make excuses that they "didn't know"

Unreal.
It's all about doing Volume Robbie, they all know what the fuck they are doing trust me.

These upload sites are legally protected (i believe) they can't control and manually check all the uploads, the only thing you can do as a content producer is waste hours of work and send over DMCA notices... laws have to change, until then this shit is still going to be happening
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I doubt if CCBill will respond here in public, the statements they made on Xbiz were not that clever to say the least
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It's hard to speak to the hypocrisy of Pay Pay...but what the FUCK is CC Bill doing?

Apparently if you are an honest webmaster they do an anal probe of your site to determine if you break any of their rules.

But if you are a goddamn THIEF then they process you like it's no problem. And then make excuses that they "didn't know"

Unreal.
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you sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist, I am glad I don't send my traffic to someone who sounds crazy...
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doing the same shit with http://www.filefactory.com apparently...
even Paypal is doing it...



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you sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist, I am glad I don't send my traffic to someone who sounds crazy...
Don't flatter yourself SquirrelySwirlyGirly man (a certified tin-hatter), I'm pretty sure Robbie would wipe his ass with, and then shitcan, your affiliate application...

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I think the biggest point we made today is that when we get together we CAN affect change. If we start targeting things like oron we can get CCBill to do the right thing...remember the first one is always the hardest.

We have taken the first step in what will likely be a longer journey, the thing we have to remember is not to look back but look ahead and stay on course

Im proud to be in this biz today good job to all who helped DWB was instrumental he desrves a big attaboy
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I think the biggest point we made today is that when we get together we CAN affect change. If we start targeting things like oron we can get CCBill to do the right thing...remember the first one is always the hardest.

We have taken the first step in what will likely be a longer journey, the thing we have to remember is not to look back but look ahead and stay on course

Im proud to be in this biz today good job to all who helped DWB was instrumental he desrves a big attaboy


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ccbill knows exactly what they are doing. They know they are processing for content thieves and more.

ccbill will do it until they are caught.

ccbill will not respond because they are guilty and do not care.

The only thing they truly care about is making money just like manwin.

Manwin and many others made millions from all of your stolen content.

Now ccbill has been busted and caught in the act.

There are absolutely no excuses. NONE!
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ccbill knows exactly what they are doing. They know they are processing for content thieves and more.

ccbill will do it until they are caught.

ccbill will not respond because they are guilty and do not care.

The only thing they truly care about is making money just like manwin.

Manwin and many others made millions from all of your stolen content.

Now ccbill has been busted and caught in the act.

There are absolutely no excuses. NONE!
Who do you process with?

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ccbill hasnt responded and WILL NOT. they dont give a flying fuck about any of you or your content. #AdultIsDead
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They process for tons of huge flle-sharing sites and have been doing for a long time.

They really don't care. The only reason they dropped this one is because of the beasty and lolita stuff posted. They don't give a shit about piracy.
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I think the biggest point we made today is that when we get together we CAN affect change. If we start targeting things like oron we can get CCBill to do the right thing...remember the first one is always the hardest.
These file-sharing sites are not illegal. Don't fool yourself, CCBILL doesn't give a fuck.
The ONLY reason they pulled this was because of the beasty and lolita stuff. Not because they care about the pirated stuff being posted.
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These upload sites are legally protected (i believe) they can't control and manually check all the uploads, the only thing you can do as a content producer is waste hours of work and send over DMCA notices... laws have to change, until then this shit is still going to be happening
Oron own porn sharing forums, so the "we were unaware argument" is rather flimsy, it is also why paypal dropped them.

What also makes this a real fuck you from CCbill is that oron was build and is marketed specifically for porn, nothing else on there.
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I think the biggest point we made today is that when we get together we CAN affect change. If we start targeting things like oron we can get CCBill to do the right thing...remember the first one is always the hardest.

We have taken the first step in what will likely be a longer journey, the thing we have to remember is not to look back but look ahead and stay on course

Im proud to be in this biz today good job to all who helped DWB was instrumental he desrves a big attaboy
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:29 AM   #144
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Very disappointed to see no response from CCBill on this. They may have removed the processing, but disturbing they offered them processing in the first place
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:08 AM   #145
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Just like whack-a-mole

Those of us who are really in the adult industry are being shit on from every side it seems.


right on but those who have the gold make the rules

I could go on and on on a tirade but I'll rather spend that time doing business with those that I trust

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Old 06-07-2012, 06:25 AM   #146
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damn, I would never expect this!

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Old 06-07-2012, 09:37 AM   #147
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This is why going with EPOCH is a smart move. Sure, they want un-redacted 2257 data, but it is better than this sort of shit!
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:43 AM   #148
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sorry to drift off topic a bit...but how has everyone's ccbill sales been since the drama in this thread started?
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:00 PM   #149
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This whole thing is utterly despicable. Pulling CCBill from our cascades. Vote with your feet people.
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