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Old 06-12-2012, 12:56 PM   #1
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Syria: US accuses Russia of sending attack helicopters

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...licopters.html
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:21 PM   #2
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So,is that bad, or what?
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:50 PM   #3
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Does anyone think that President Abraham Lincoln would have hesitated to use attack helicopters to preserve the Union, had they been available? His Army brought every technology of the age into battle, usually the first military use of any of them, from telegraph and observation balloons to submarines and iron clad ships of war. Much of the strategy of the North involved blockades of civilian population and the destruction of agriculture and animal husbandry with the intent to so assault the civilian population as to demoralize the people in secession, witness the wholesale destruction inflicted by Sherman's Army, the burning of Atlanta, etc. We never abandoned making war against civilian populations. The firebombing of Tokyo and Hamburg and Dresden are well known, as is the return of British fighters to Dresden to machine gun the firemen a couple of hours after the incindiaries created the firestorm. For two years I lived in a city - Stuttgart - in which 82% of the civilian housing had been destroyed in a handful of US raids aimed at striking terror into the civilians, along with too many women and children to ever count. The bombing of dikes and dams in Vietnam, flooding small villages in which children slept, seemed so ordinary at the time that it scarcely made news here. Given our own history - and the arguments we've used for one hundred fifty years to justify the same results, even when they were intended and not merely "collateral damage", I find some of the positions of our government regarding Syria's attempt to maintain law and order against insurrection to be very strange and incongruous.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:54 PM   #4
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Whatever, fuck 'em. Let them they continue to kill their own people. Eventually the entire population of Syria will get so pissed off they'll over throw their own government, and then Russia will have to deal with them.
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since the us is funding the rebels who cares ?

let them kill each other
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:28 PM   #6
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Indiscriminate attacks on non-combatants civilians is a war crime under the Geneva Convention.

As for WW2; the Nazis bombed civilians in London for some time -- what did they expect would happen? Neither act was allowed under the rules of warfare ...

For reason of the major actors involvement in Syria; Iran, China, and Russia, it will probably be up to the Syrians to work this one out for themselves.

The Russians have long been Syria's major military suppliers so the use of Russian war machines in this civil conflict is not surprising at all.

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Old 06-12-2012, 05:24 PM   #7
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Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, said: ?We have confronted the Russians about stopping their continued arms shipments to Syria. They have, from time to time, said that we shouldn?t worry - everything they are shipping is unrelated to their [the Syrian government?s] actions internally. That?s patently untrue.

Hillary Clinton knows the truth of dealing with Russians. The only time they aren't lying is when their mouth is closed.
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:27 PM   #8
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Does anyone think that President Abraham Lincoln would have hesitated to use attack helicopters to preserve the Union, had they been available?
yes, what would Abe Zombie do ?
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:29 PM   #9
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What? Only the U.S. can send soldiers into other countries and put its own citizens on a kill list?
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