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Old 07-01-2012, 10:10 AM   #51
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:56 AM   #52
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1. Understand the customer
2. Understand the customer
3. Understand the customer

Cams and dating are interactive activities if you can understand and sell that aspect you will see conversion rates of under 1:350.

Cams and static Porn might both be forms of adult entertainment but that is where the similarity ends -- you need to address the customer's desires to succeed. Customers buy Cams and Dating to interact with people not to beat their meat in solitude. Passive activity v. social interaction is the main difference.

If you are an ACWM Affiliate hit me up -- I have a list of models for you to promote -- these are the models whose cam pages funnel to the buy credits page the most often. Knowledge is power ;=) and I don't mind sharing something that will make you money because you will make me money. We (XloveCam and ACWM ( our affiliate program)) do best with EU traffic and French speaking customers currently but have a lot of Eastern Europe cam girls but our speciality are our many French girls.

The other way is to obtain massive traffic using the shotgun method to the funnel. If you do that 1:4000 would not surprise me.

I would guesstimate all the adult cam sites sales at $1 Billion to $1.5 Billion annually. I know cams sell -- I have been in this business as a site owner, affiliate and executive since 2001. Cams do sell but you have to understand how to sell them. Unfortunately, most affiliates don't.

"The harder I work the luckier I get" ... Samuel Goldwyn (MGM Studios -- Hollywood)
Ok, I already registered, and I am waiting the approved e-mail...

I hope this works fine, with your advice given here.
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Ok, I already registered, and I am waiting the approved e-mail...

I hope this works fine, with your advice given here.
We manually approve all new affiliates it takes 1 -2 working days M -F.

Thank you for joining us
If you need help let me know -- I will ask that Nick, Johnny or Sebastian in our affiliate program help you out.

My ICQ is below (obfuscated some -- board spambots...)
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We manually approve all new affiliates it takes 1 -2 working days M -F.

Thank you for joining us
If you need help let me know -- I will ask that Nick, Johnny or Sebastian in our affiliate program help you out.

My ICQ is below (obfuscated some -- board spambots...)
You are speaking between lines in all your advices, can you be more clear?

What do you mean with "Cams and dating are interactive activities" ??

I can understand anything on that line...

You also talk about social INTERACTION ?..

what do you mean EXACTLY?

Can you explain in detail what do you mean?

Because otherwise I will understand that you are referring to what I said in my messages in PAGE 1... Which means falling in the ILLEGAL SHITTY SCAM of E-WHORING people out to make some bucks, either manually or automatically with ILLEGAL SPAM BOTS or COOKIE STUFFING SCRIPT, or FB, etc SCRIPTS to spam everyone out using fake profiles, pretending to be a girl... I hope you are not referring to that...

SO ?

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What do you mean with "Cams and dating are interactive activities" ??


You also talk about social INTERACTION ?..

what do you mean EXACTLY?

rhetoric rhetoric .... bla bla bla

SO ?
Simple Simon says;
  1. porn is; solo wanking, jacking off, pulling your pud, spanking the monkey ...
  2. social interaction is; doing the above with an "internet friend (not all by yourself)".

Static porn is something you beat your meat to alone. Cams and Dating you beat your meat with another person.

So, the personality factors are much more complex. (Especially for the long term customer.)

For a cam girl (model) to succeed the person you refer needs to like the model as a person not just as a moving image with big tits or a dominatrix plugging guys asses with a strap on.

As example: They might like to meet a dominatrix that will order them to plug their own ass on cam while the dominatrix watches -- this game is about people and satisfying their desires live. Really, whatever rocks their boat within legal limits.

Cams and Dating is about real life people and their relationships to one another.

You have to sell the dream -- to meet someone online to have sex with -- interactive (not alone)

Like a synergy
"2. An effect of the interaction of the actions of two agents
such that the result of the combined action is greater
than expected as a simple additive combination of the two
agents acting separately;
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Simple Simon says;
  1. porn is; solo wanking, jacking off, pulling your pud, spanking the monkey ...
  2. social interaction is; doing the above with an "internet friend (not all by yourself)".

Static porn is something you beat your meat to alone. Cams and Dating you beat your meat with another person.

So, the personality factors are much more complex. (Especially for the long term customer.)

For a cam girl (model) to succeed the person you refer needs to like the model as a person not just as a moving image with big tits or a dominatrix plugging guys asses with a strap on.

As example: They might like to meet a dominatrix that will order them to plug their own ass on cam while the dominatrix watches -- this game is about people and satisfying their desires live. Really, whatever rocks their boat within legal limits.

Cams and Dating is about real life people and their relationships to one another.

You have to sell the dream -- to meet someone online to have sex with -- interactive (not alone)

Like a synergy
"2. An effect of the interaction of the actions of two agents
such that the result of the combined action is greater
than expected as a simple additive combination of the two
agents acting separately;
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YES, but I ASKED you about the ADVICES given to convert CAMS...

I am asking you about the ADVICES you gave to the OP about converting CAMS.

You said that you need INTERACTION TO SELL CAMS, rather than putting banners on BLOGS...

NOW AGAIN, what kind of interaction are you sugesting ? WE ARE AFFILIATES, not CAM GIRLS... What INTERACTION are you suggesting to the AFFILIATE WEBMASTER promoting your program to convert CAMS ?

TELL ME clearly what you are referring to.

STOP evading my question and talking between LINES.

COME ON DUDE... BE DIRECT.

DOZENS of LURKERS are reading this and waiting for your answer...

BE DIRECT and SAY what you want to say.

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I knew he was not going to answer...

Well, guys, LURKERS and people expecting an answer, I asked..

He didn't answer..

PIRIOD.
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:10 PM   #59
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I knew he was not going to answer...
No one can answer you in a way that makes you happy if the topic it is cams.
You say in every cam thread that you can't convert cams but you not even tried all the cam programs. You say Barry did not replied you, instead he replied, also have you tried his cam program? I think no.
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here in europe cam's do well but still i need to boost my cams olso further
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:49 PM   #61
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No one can answer you in a way that makes you happy if the topic it is cams.
You say in every cam thread that you can't convert cams but you not even tried all the cam programs. You say Barry did not replied you, instead he replied, also have you tried his cam program? I think no.
Our cam program is not the magic bullet but understanding the buying motivation difference between paysite buyers and interactive website buyers, e.g.; cams and dating is the key.

Unfortunately, most affiliates want some magic promo tool that guarantees success -- there is no such thing and anyone that says "Here, you can use this amazing widget and earn a fortune with us" is full of shit. However, you can use promotional tools, regardless of what they are, to add value and click-thru opportunities to your own creative work to make money with a sponsor with saleable content.

But if you lack your own creative abilities, lack some source of great ( good not quantity bulk ) traffic to send; Just what do you bring to the table in your relationship with a sponsor?

Most won't say this but I will ... We spend lots of money for Promo Tools to help our affiliates but they must add their own creativity to their use. If you can't find a way to do this it's a no starter -- you are better off working a steady job in the factory if you can find one; They hand you the work and tell you what to do in the factory and pay you a salary, no dishonour in that, it is honest labor.

And Venus, I did answer you directly even giving you the above example of the dominatrix -- you said you were successful selling Fetish porn and I think you should have been able to have understood the analogy. So to my mind that means one of two things; You really are not successful selling Fetish porn or you are just here to troll anyone in the cam business. I'll just go back to ignoring what you say ... time is money to me ...

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Open up a bunch of twitter accounts in various niches and use webcam rss feeds to populate them. Do the same with blogs and link between all of them. Set up, forget and start a new "network".
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Open up a bunch of twitter accounts in various niches and use webcam rss feeds to populate them. Do the same with blogs and link between all of them. Set up, forget and start a new "network".
That's what I mean -- a creative idea. We have the feeds to do this in our Promo Tools --XML and RSS.
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No one can answer you in a way that makes you happy if the topic it is cams.
You say in every cam thread that you can't convert cams but you not even tried all the cam programs. You say Barry did not replied you, instead he replied, also have you tried his cam program? I think no.
No no.. I ASKED HIM something VERY SPECIFIC...

He said that to sell webcams as an affiliate and convert, you need to use interactive METHODS, rather than STATIC BANNERS on a site...

When I asked him what INTERACTIVE METHODS was he referring to, HE EVADED my question and pasted the DICTIONARY definitions of STATIC and INTERACTIVE...

I am asking him, what INTERACTIVE METHODS is he referring to.

is that really that hard to answer?

Makes me really wonder...

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No no.. I ASKED HIM something VERY SPECIFIC...

He said that to sell webcams as an affiliate and convert, you need to use interactive METHODS, rather than STATIC BANNERS on a site...

When I asked him what INTERACTIVE METHODS was he referring to, HE EVADED my question and pasted the DICTIONARY definitions of STATIC and INTERACTIVE...

I am asking him, what INTERACTIVE METHODS is he referring to.

is that really that hard to answer?

Makes me really wonder...
Even though you're annoying as fuck, this guy Berry has a seemingly bottomless well of unchecked cuntiness. Seriously. It's fucking crazy, man. I really don't understand why people like him choose to exist as they do.

So here's the deal. I just recently started promoting a site which has a large live cam component, rock solid ownership, and is without a doubt one of the hottest sites in the industry. They work with affiliates and their sites will not only also likely do well with fetish traffic but they will almost undoubtedly outperform XCunt(s)Cams at any time of day via any platform in any foreign market minus the whole Berry cunt factor. PERIOD!!!

So email jimmycooper [@] starletsheet [.] com and we'll talk. Same goes for anyone else.

The only thing that could possibly justify Berry's little estrogen outburst here in this thread is if his program were to offer something way, way, way the fuck above and beyond that of any other program. Not only do they fail to do so but, if anything, they fall pretty fucking short on multiple fronts. So just move on and spare yourself the headache.
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The only thing that could possibly justify Berry's little estrogen outburst here in this thread is if his program were to offer something way, way, way the fuck above and beyond that of any other program. Not only do they fail to do so but, if anything, they fall pretty fucking short on multiple fronts. So just move on and spare yourself the headache.
At least spell my name right dipshit CYA

And your right, I don't even have the time of day for you

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At least spell my name right dipshit CYA

And your right, I don't even have the time of day for you
If you don't have the time of day for me, Berry, then in what continuum was it in which you wrote your last post? Non-time? lol You're a funny guy.
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No no.. I ASKED HIM something VERY SPECIFIC...

He said that to sell webcams as an affiliate and convert, you need to use interactive METHODS, rather than STATIC BANNERS on a site...

When I asked him what INTERACTIVE METHODS was he referring to, HE EVADED my question and pasted the DICTIONARY definitions of STATIC and INTERACTIVE...
thats easy, many cam sponsor offer iframes featuring a live model. Aka interactive and not static.
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Give the users something that is new and interessting. Not always the same: Check out the hottest chicks doing everything you want.
Our company for example offers the customer a 24/7 cam flatrate for 14,95 $ per month. Depending on your traffic you have more money than on sites where users buy coins or maybe less money. But it is something new where you can gather some users that like cheap cam action and will stay for a long time. User that never buy coins but make a cheap monthly subscription.

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am I the only one that is NOT using all those expensive fancy promotools?

The best way to get a conversion is a simple html text link in my experience ;-)
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No no.. I ASKED HIM something VERY SPECIFIC...

He said that to sell webcams as an affiliate and convert, you need to use interactive METHODS, rather than STATIC BANNERS on a site...

When I asked him what INTERACTIVE METHODS was he referring to, HE EVADED my question and pasted the DICTIONARY definitions of STATIC and INTERACTIVE...

I am asking him, what INTERACTIVE METHODS is he referring to.

is that really that hard to answer?

Makes me really wonder...
"INTERACTIVE METHODS" to me means going into an online chat room pretending you are kittyKaT26 or whatever and try to get guys to go into your private video chat or creating fake facebook and twitter profiles were you interact with potencial customers.
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am I the only one that is NOT using all those expensive fancy promotools?

The best way to get a conversion is a simple html text link in my experience ;-)
Simple links are rare these days and sometimes a story with a link really works well and your story's text is the SEO bait for the search engines to send you visitors that become referrals and some sales. Sometimes affiliate made tools based on RSS/XML data work well. Over the years I have known a lot of successful affiliates that create their websites from feed data that we provide.

The best displays are the ones that are made from the tools we provide -- they are unique to your website and can be the basis of a design.

This advice is generic to all the major cam programs -- most give you the tools and some of the materials but you have to build the house yourself -- that is what you bring to the table. If you make something that works it is not on 1000 other sites ...

AdWords is a good "affiliate" too -- they bring massive traffic to the table -- directive traffic that is ultra high quality. The difference is we pay affiliates a reoccurring commission for as long as their referred customer continues to buy and AdWords costs us up front for referrals whether they buy or not. We have the money to spend feeding AdWords but we like a mix of referring sources. Better to have your eggs in a few different baskets.

How many of you market multiple affiliate programs on the same website?
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[C]ams and dating are interactive activities if you can understand and sell that aspect you will see conversion rates of under 1:350.

Cams and static Porn might both be forms of adult entertainment but that is where the similarity ends -- you need to address the customer's desires to succeed. Customers buy Cams and Dating to interact with people ...
Just for the record I never used interactive+methods in the same phrase.

However, if you want to tout or shill a model's cam -- all's fair if its not outright spam.

When I started a cam site years ago I sat in the model's chat rooms with the name BoNeDaDDy and talked the users into special deals for both of us if we bought a private at the same time, like 40% off; Sometimes, they took the bait ... :D

If you have ever fished you know that how you set the bait really matters.
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Simple links are rare these days and sometimes a story with a link really works well and your story's text is the SEO bait for the search engines to send you visitors that become referrals and some sales.

How many of you market multiple affiliate programs on the same website?
QFT...

but just saying, cam programs can have the most expensive and wide collection of promo tools, but basically all I need from a cam program is a text link with my ref code in it to make money
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"INTERACTIVE METHODS" to me means going into an online chat room pretending you are kittyKaT26 or whatever and try to get guys to go into your private video chat or creating fake facebook and twitter profiles were you interact with potencial customers.
Ok, but this guy Barry-xlovecam is still not quoting my message and ANSWERING ME DIRECTLY.. Is that what BARRY MEANS?

DOING CHEATING E-WHORING and pretending to be a girl (SO FUCKING GAY) to make guys have a hard on and make them join ????? (SO PATHETIC).. is that really what you are trying to say BARRY?... Holly shit.. How fucking pathetic and lame... But if you don't explain, people will understand that BARRY..

Asked him many times, but he always ignored... You see.. You make people confuse if you are not clear...

He is quoting others and EVADING MY QUESTION,

I WILL ASK AGAIN DIRECTLY to Barry-xlovecam:

What do you mean with INTERACTIVE METHODS?

QUOTE THIS and ANSWER ME DIRECTLY.

Don't evade my question.

He said that to sell webcams as an affiliate and convert, you need to use interactive METHODS, rather than STATIC BANNERS on a site...

When I asked him what INTERACTIVE METHODS was he referring to, HE EVADED my question and pasted the DICTIONARY definitions of STATIC and INTERACTIVE...

I am asking him, what INTERACTIVE METHODS is he referring to.

is that really that hard to answer?

WILL YOU IGNORE MY QUESTION again and QUOTE other users and answerr ambiguous THINGS?

So?

I am ASKING YOU Barry-xlovecam, and only you Barry-xlovecam... Nobody else.

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Ok, but this guy Barry-xlovecam is still not quoting my message and ANSWERING ME DIRECTLY.. Is that what BARRY MEANS?

DOING CHEATING E-WHORING and pretending to be a girl (SO FUCKING GAY) to make guys have a hard on and make them join ????? (SO PATHETIC).. is that really what you are trying to say BARRY?... Holly shit.. How fucking pathetic and lame... But if you don't explain, people will understand that BARRY..

Asked him many times, but he always ignored... You see.. You make people confuse if you are not clear...

He is quoting others and EVADING MY QUESTION,

I WILL ASK AGAIN DIRECTLY to Barry-xlovecam:

What do you mean with INTERACTIVE METHODS?

QUOTE THIS and ANSWER ME DIRECTLY.

Don't evade my question.

He said that to sell webcams as an affiliate and convert, you need to use interactive METHODS, rather than STATIC BANNERS on a site...

When I asked him what INTERACTIVE METHODS was he referring to, HE EVADED my question and pasted the DICTIONARY definitions of STATIC and INTERACTIVE...

I am asking him, what INTERACTIVE METHODS is he referring to.

is that really that hard to answer?

WILL YOU IGNORE MY QUESTION again and QUOTE other users and answerr ambiguous THINGS?

So?

I am ASKING YOU Barry-xlovecam, and only you Barry-xlovecam... Nobody else.
maybe you should some seek professional help
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maybe you should some seek professional help
I would seek a Shrink if I was pretending to be a girl on FACEBOOK to try to sell cams or using a BOT in MSN to give hardons to male strangers...

Man, that's quite pathetic. Seriously, GET A DECENT JOB.

Reverse engineering on you is quite simple to find out the truth. you are too obvious.
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Give the users something that is new and interessting. Not always the same: Check out the hottest chicks doing everything you want.
Our company for example offers the customer a 24/7 cam flatrate for 14,95 $ per month. Depending on your traffic you have more money than on sites where users buy coins or maybe less money. But it is something new where you can gather some users that like cheap cam action and will stay for a long time. User that never buy coins but make a cheap monthly subscription.

If somebody wants to have a closer look check flatfeecams . com

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but just saying, cam programs can have the most expensive and wide collection of promo tools, but basically all I need from a cam program is a text link with my ref code in it to make money
OK. So you are recommending SEO techniques, or users clicking on blog posts or something like that is not it? Would you please go deeper in your techniques? It seems a very interesting approach. Thank you.
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We manually approve all new affiliates it takes 1 -2 working days M -F.

Thank you for joining us
If you need help let me know -- I will ask that Nick, Johnny or Sebastian in our affiliate program help you out.

My ICQ is below (obfuscated some -- board spambots...)
What are the models you recommend me to promote?
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but just saying, cam programs can have the most expensive and wide collection of promo tools, but basically all I need from a cam program is a text link with my ref code in it to make money
I agree with that. As a program we are getting those affiliates who ask for API's xml feeds and all those complicated stuff, that cost us time and money to make and so we are not making yet. Why? Our best affiliates use plain link methods really. I will not discuss how they do as one time I posted a guy using a youtube vid it was like I exposed biggest secrets of our affiliates, but honestly when someone ask so many fancy promo tools and systems in advance it smells he will bring 3 clicks per month grand total.
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I agree with that. As a program we are getting those affiliates who ask for API's xml feeds and all those complicated stuff, that cost us time and money to make and so we are not making yet. Why? Our best affiliates use plain link methods really. I will not discuss how they do as one time I posted a guy using a youtube vid it was like I exposed biggest secrets of our affiliates, but honestly when someone ask so many fancy promo tools and systems in advance it smells he will bring 3 clicks per month grand total.
Just a text link to make huge bucks?..

STRANGE...

OR...

MSN BOTS / COOKIE STUFFING / E-WHORING via FACEBOOK or social sites using FAKE PROFILES... --> You just need a text link for all those methods.. MAKES SENSE.

All of that is either illegal or LAME and PATHETIC blackhat, but you say you don't care about how they send money.

And maybe that's the reason, NOBODY HERE answers to the question I make.

Funny that jimmi cuper is becoming nervous and sendin me emails, it looks like I'm making questions that some GREEDY FUCKERS here don't want to see an answer to dont get competition.

PIRIOD.

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ICQ ME 3*1*8*9*6*3*6*1*
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Ok, but this guy Barry-xlovecam is still not quoting my message and ANSWERING ME DIRECTLY.. Is that what BARRY MEANS?

DOING CHEATING E-WHORING and pretending to be a girl (SO FUCKING GAY) to make guys have a hard on and make them join ????? (SO PATHETIC).. is that really what you are trying to say BARRY?... Holly shit.. How fucking pathetic and lame... But if you don't explain, people will understand that BARRY..

Asked him many times, but he always ignored... You see.. You make people confuse if you are not clear...

He is quoting others and EVADING MY QUESTION,

I WILL ASK AGAIN DIRECTLY to Barry-xlovecam:

What do you mean with INTERACTIVE METHODS?

QUOTE THIS and ANSWER ME DIRECTLY.

Don't evade my question.

He said that to sell webcams as an affiliate and convert, you need to use interactive METHODS, rather than STATIC BANNERS on a site...

When I asked him what INTERACTIVE METHODS was he referring to, HE EVADED my question and pasted the DICTIONARY definitions of STATIC and INTERACTIVE...

I am asking him, what INTERACTIVE METHODS is he referring to.

is that really that hard to answer?

WILL YOU IGNORE MY QUESTION again and QUOTE other users and answerr ambiguous THINGS?

So?

I am ASKING YOU Barry-xlovecam, and only you Barry-xlovecam... Nobody else.
Lol, you want someone to hold your hand and walk you through every single detail on how to convert cams. You've been given so much advice in thread after thread where you bitch that you can't convert cams, yet you just can't seem to figure it out on your own.
He did mention using iframes of live feeds as a method of selling interaction. Nobody is going to walk you through step by step on all their secrets of optimizing cam conversions. You've been doing adult for 9 years and by the way you bitch and complain one would think you've never had one cam sale.
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Just a text link to make huge bucks?..

STRANGE...

OR...

MSN BOTS / COOKIE STUFFING / E-WHORING via FACEBOOK or social sites using FAKE PROFILES... --> You just need a text link for all those methods.. MAKES SENSE.

All of that is either illegal or LAME and PATHETIC blackhat, but you say you don't care about how they send money.

And maybe that's the reason, NOBODY HERE answers to the question I make.

Funny that jimmi cuper is becoming nervous and sendin me emails, it looks like I'm making questions that some GREEDY FUCKERS here don't want to see an answer to dont get competition.

PIRIOD.
You're absolutely right.

In writing the emails, I thought that I was just trying to find a lab rat who could test out a few longshot strategies which I have yet to find the time to try myself. That way I would be able to see which of the elements would have potential and which of them wouldn't. To learn from your mistakes and thereby save myself the time and money it would take for me to learn from my own mistakes. Pretty efficient, no?

In retrospect, I think the emails were sent more out of a subconscious fear that you were starting to get just a little too close to cracking the secret Freemason-like code that we all secretly talk about behind your back. I felt that it was my duty to protect the code and I wanted to divert you. I just didn't realize at the time. But you knew it right from the start. Nothing gets past you. You are just way too fucking smart.
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Just a text link to make huge bucks?..

STRANGE...

OR...

MSN BOTS / COOKIE STUFFING / E-WHORING via FACEBOOK or social sites using FAKE PROFILES... --> You just need a text link for all those methods.. MAKES SENSE.

All of that is either illegal or LAME and PATHETIC blackhat, but you say you don't care about how they send money.

And maybe that's the reason, NOBODY HERE answers to the question I make.

Funny that jimmi cuper is becoming nervous and sendin me emails, it looks like I'm making questions that some GREEDY FUCKERS here don't want to see an answer to dont get competition.

PIRIOD.
Lol at greedy fuckers, so because some have figured out how to convert cams we should share it with everyone else?
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am I the only one that is NOT using all those expensive fancy promotools?

The best way to get a conversion is a simple html text link in my experience ;-)
not at all, all I have ever used is a text link, text link/thumb combo or pic with a short descriptive paragraph.
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Lol, you want someone to hold your hand and walk you through every single detail on how to convert cams. You've been given so much advice in thread after thread where you bitch that you can't convert cams, yet you just can't seem to figure it out on your own.
He did mention using iframes of live feeds as a method of selling interaction. Nobody is going to walk you through step by step on all their secrets of optimizing cam conversions. You've been doing adult for 9 years and by the way you bitch and complain one would think you've never had one cam sale.
Interesting, after I did a search for your NICK, its pure CAMS posts... Damn, CAMS CAMS CAMS.. you must dream with CAMS.

LURKERS and guys reading me, just do a search for this guy to get "INSPIRED" by his method. This guy does 15K + per month. So, doing what he does, will surely make you some bucks...

This guy only talks about CAMS CAMS CAMS. He ALMOST NEVER talks about paysites, or fetish paysites or CCBILL sales.

Obviously this guy is obsesed with cams. His life is CAMS.

He uses the word CAMS in 90% of his posts. DAMN... I'm surely missing out, when I don't apply your method. INTERESTING.

Let's share that pie!
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Just a matter of minutes before someone quotes that message and puts a smiley saying that you rock and that you are best...

Or one of those caption pictures.

the obvious is obvious. And boring.

PIRIOD.
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Interesting, after I did a search for your NICK, its pure CAMS posts... Damn, CAMS CAMS CAMS.. you must dream with CAMS.

LURKERS and guys reading me, just do a search for this guy to get "INSPIRED" by his method. This guy does 15K + per month. So, doing what he does, will surely make you some bucks...

This guy only talks about CAMS CAMS CAMS. He ALMOST NEVER talks about paysites, or fetish paysites or CCBILL sales.

Obviously this guy is obsesed with cams. His life is CAMS.

He uses the word CAMS in 90% of his posts. DAMN... I'm surely missing out, when I don't apply your method. INTERESTING.

Let's share that pie!
I've always been clear that cams/dating are all that I've promoted for 13 years. I was never happy with my paysite conversions so just stuck to cams. Maybe I should start whining in every thread about my paysite conversions like you do with cams. Are you on your PIRIOD again?
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Hey Penis Flogger,

Here's a nice, relatively simple 8-part interactive promotional method which I have yet to see anyone use. You should try it out and report back.

1. Find and sign up as an affiliate with a sponsor who has a cam site that allows it's members to pay via wire.
2. Go to an ATM machine and just sit there and wait until you see a guy who is by himself and looks like he's between the ages of 28 and 48.
3. As soon as the guy withdraws some money, punch him in the face.
4. Say, "Give me all your money and your email address and your preferred NICK! It's for CAMS! You will like them and when your TIME runs out, you will buy MORE TIME for CAMS!!!"
5. Piss on his face.
6. Go to a cafe that has Wi-Fi. Sign him up for a free membership using your ref link.
7. Go to Western Union and wire all of his money to the cam site.
8. Collect checks
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not at all, all I have ever used is a text link, text link/thumb combo or pic with a short descriptive paragraph.
Maybe with a bit.ly redirector
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1. Find and sign up as an affiliate with a sponsor who has a cam site that allows it's members to pay via wire.
2. Go to an ATM machine and just sit there and wait until you see a guy who is by himself and looks like he's between the ages of 28 and 48.
3. As soon as the guy withdraws some money, punch him in the face.
4. Say, "Give me all your money and your email address and your preferred NICK! It's for CAMS! You will like them and when your TIME runs out, you will buy MORE TIME for CAMS!!!"
5. Piss on his face.
6. Go to a cafe that has Wi-Fi. Sign him up for a free membership using your ref link.
7. Go to Western Union and wire all of his money to the cam site.
8. Collect checks
Good hint, at the end this will happen ;)
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I first started my cam affiliate site 3+ years ago. I sent traffic to it got a few sign ups and concentrated on my other sites. All my other sites where doing very well from Google traffic - that was until Panda.

Ive checked out my cam stats (mtree) and seen that I have been making $3-7K per year for the last 3 years, yet I have not had one sign up for 2 years...

This prompted me to dive deeper into how I can get more sign ups, Ive spent $1000 or close to that on paid ads - no sales...

I came here looking for some tips on what works, and fuck me there is a a lot to filter out - why can't you guys just give straight out advice on what works and what does work?

Ive taken notes from this thread to take away and see how they work, again not sure what will work because so many different ideas here.
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I first started my cam affiliate site 3+ years ago. I sent traffic to it got a few sign ups and concentrated on my other sites. All my other sites where doing very well from Google traffic - that was until Panda.

Ive checked out my cam stats (mtree) and seen that I have been making $3-7K per year for the last 3 years, yet I have not had one sign up for 2 years...

This prompted me to dive deeper into how I can get more sign ups, Ive spent $1000 or close to that on paid ads - no sales...

I came here looking for some tips on what works, and fuck me there is a a lot to filter out - why can't you guys just give straight out advice on what works and what does work?

Ive taken notes from this thread to take away and see how they work, again not sure what will work because so many different ideas here.
what works for me or for someone else, might not work for you and vice versa, it's not that simple with cams
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I have been promoting AWEMPIRE, specially my cobrand site, and I have made a few money. I want to make more money, what is your advice in relation to the webcam sites? What is the best technique to become successful on that? Thank you.
My advice would be to do something you know a lot about, something you're good at and something you love doing. That's the best advice you'll ever get.
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My advice would be to do something you know a lot about, something you're good at and something you love doing. That's the best advice you'll ever get.
I doubt jerking off adds a lot to his bottom line. Unless he streams it perhaps....
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