What Happened To "German Mobile Traffic is Gold" - GoFuckYourself.com

Ross · 08-27-2012, 11:09 AM

Were there regulation changes again? Seems everyone has cooled their interest in German Mobile traffic.

I remember this time last year people were bidding $10 cpm on banner impressions in our network for it.

Markul · 08-27-2012, 11:27 AM

It still is gold to some

Ross · 08-27-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul

It still is gold to some

In that case, let me know if you need some. I also just had someone send me some nice information on what is going on. Nothing I couldn't figure out on my own, but I at least have a full write up now on the procedure involved.

DamageX · 08-27-2012, 11:48 AM

Sell it to Mark from GTS. I'm sure he'll have no problem bullshitting others into it being gold and selling it forward.

Markul · 08-27-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross

In that case, let me know if you need some. I also just had someone send me some nice information on what is going on. Nothing I couldn't figure out on my own, but I at least have a full write up now on the procedure involved.

I presume you are selling carrier based? In that case shoot over some prices to info (att) eroticjunkie.com please

kristin · 08-27-2012, 11:52 AM

The German market has taken quite a hit and you will not see the numbers you once saw ever again. It's actually quite sad. Some large mobile solutions have lost their ability to work with certain telecoms, which caused for a huge loss of rebills.

Sucks to say the least.

Klen · 08-27-2012, 11:52 AM

Yes there was new regulations,now you need to show price to purchase and that slashed conversion rates.Atleast that's what i heard.

Ross · 08-27-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul

I presume you are selling carrier based? In that case shoot over some prices to info (att) eroticjunkie.com please

At this time we don't have the functionality to sell carrier based. It's being added to and will be ready in 2-3 months (we're revamping the entire system top to bottom, hence the time frame)

I'll let you know when it's ready.

MaDalton · 08-27-2012, 12:00 PM

when a few abuse the system it leads to a loss for everyone

see dialer, xsales and now mobile

Ross · 08-27-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

when a few abuse the system it leads to a loss for everyone

see dialer, xsales and now mobile

85% of Countries on mobile are sold at premium rates, Germany used to be in that category. That is the one good thing I will say about Mobile traffic, it sells very well. Only a few countries you can't sell like South Korea, China, Indonesia, Pakistan etc. Not very many tho

DamageX · 08-27-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

when a few abuse the system it leads to a loss for everyone

see dialer, xsales and now mobile

Yep, but the few abusers make out like bandits.

Roald · 08-27-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

The German market has taken quite a hit and you will not see the numbers you once saw ever again. It's actually quite sad. Some large mobile solutions have lost their ability to work with certain telecoms, which caused for a huge loss of rebills.

Sucks to say the least.

This.

Some known companies fucked up badly for the rest.

PR_Phil · 08-27-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

This.

Some known companies fucked up badly for the rest.

a common theme in this industry, or many others as well.

Roald · 08-27-2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Phil

a common theme in this industry, or many others as well.

Correct.

ajrocks · 08-27-2012, 02:12 PM

did it turn in to shiza?

adultwebmestar · 08-28-2012, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Sell it to Mark from GTS. I'm sure he'll have no problem bullshitting others into it being gold and selling it forward.

It's not bullshit. I earned 100 euro / 1k de redirects to brokerbabe in the last month.
now i can earn 10 euro max.

?the button solution? killed the market

Umbalabob · 08-28-2012, 05:45 AM

There are many reasons and it started 2011 in may when some telecommunication companies like Vodafone stopped some programm, since this time it happens again and again. But you can still make good money in germany with this.
If somebody is looking for a reliable german mobile program check out our stuff, we are really based in germany so we follow all the rules and one half of our owner is one of the biggest german telecom companies Freenet, so we are best connected to Vodafone, Telekom etc. On the market since 2001 so hit me if you want to give us a try

SGM_Josi · 08-28-2012, 06:06 AM

We are working good in German Mobile traffic.

Skype: SGM_Josi
ICQ: 640 603 one45

Regards.

Ross · 08-28-2012, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SGM_Josi

We are working good in German Mobile traffic.

Skype: SGM_Josi
ICQ: 640 603 one45

Regards.

Then buy our traffic. My details are below.

benk81 · 08-28-2012, 10:43 AM

yep DE has taken a hit for us too and Kristin is right, itll not return to its old ways but for such a heavily regulated country im surprised it lasted this long.
therell be another hot geo pretty soon though i can guarantee you that much!
ross send me some CPM's and we can try and factor it in to our deal for the poorer geos like korea and indonesia you want shot of.

Rebel D · 08-29-2012, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul

I presume you are selling carrier based? In that case shoot over some prices to info (att) eroticjunkie.com please

We have some carrier based mobile if you need it

adultwebmestar · 08-29-2012, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Umbalabob

There are many reasons and it started 2011 in may when some telecommunication companies like Vodafone stopped some programm, since this time it happens again and again. But you can still make good money in germany with this.
If somebody is looking for a reliable german mobile program check out our stuff, we are really based in germany so we follow all the rules and one half of our owner is one of the biggest german telecom companies Freenet, so we are best connected to Vodafone, Telekom etc. On the market since 2001 so hit me if you want to give us a try

I didn't find your mobile site. where is it?

DoubleT · 08-29-2012, 06:18 AM

so what happened exactly and which company blew the market up?

Icy · 08-30-2012, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DoubleT

so what happened exactly and which company blew the market up?

Two things happened:

1) Vodafone (one of the largest operators) cut the line access to some sponsors due to some irregularities found or at least suspected.

2) New laws and own operator regulations took effect, basically the payment flow moved from:

Visit mobile site->click on video thumb->you have subscribed to a weekly 6€ service.

To:

Visit mobile site->click on video thumb->see all the service conditions and specially the price written above everything with a HUGE font->click on a button that says "PAY"->go to new screen explaining again the service and the price in a HUGE font->click again on a button that says "are you sure you want to PAY?"->then you subscribe.

Imagine the conversion ratio drop after that change in the flow.

I won't name the sponsors as i have a good relationship with them and even friendship. Also none of us were saying anything about their practices when we were banking on it.

The German golden rush is over and won't ever be back again. You can still make money, but way harder than before. I have paid up to $75 per k in the past, no more than $20 now and depending on the operator.

Ross, next time ask me mate, you now i'm always around to talk about mobile. Let's meet in Amsterdam or Prague

MaDalton · 08-30-2012, 07:38 AM

let's be honest - everyone knew what was going to happen but was trying to make as much as they could up to that point.

Ross · 08-30-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Icy

Ross, next time ask me mate, you now i'm always around to talk about mobile. Let's meet in Amsterdam or Prague

Absolutely Ivan, I'm only doing Amsterdam but let's grab some lunch and talk. We never seem to get enough face to face time. I'll let you know my schedule next week

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08-27-2012, 11:09 AM	#1
Ross Ik ben een aap Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Traffic Force Towers, Canada! Posts: 18,874	What Happened To "German Mobile Traffic is Gold" Were there regulation changes again? Seems everyone has cooled their interest in German Mobile traffic. I remember this time last year people were bidding $10 cpm on banner impressions in our network for it. Last edited by Ross; 08-27-2012 at 11:11 AM..

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08-27-2012, 11:52 AM	#6
kristin GOO! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Back Home : ) Posts: 9,768	The German market has taken quite a hit and you will not see the numbers you once saw ever again. It's actually quite sad. Some large mobile solutions have lost their ability to work with certain telecoms, which caused for a huge loss of rebills. Sucks to say the least. __________________ Vacares rules. "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

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benk81 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: London Posts: 191	yep DE has taken a hit for us too and Kristin is right, itll not return to its old ways but for such a heavily regulated country im surprised it lasted this long. therell be another hot geo pretty soon though i can guarantee you that much! ross send me some CPM's and we can try and factor it in to our deal for the poorer geos like korea and indonesia you want shot of. __________________ benk81 ICQ 604 518 639 ben (at) reporo . com

08-29-2012, 06:18 AM	#23
DoubleT Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 39	so what happened exactly and which company blew the market up?

08-30-2012, 07:38 AM	#25
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,822	let's be honest - everyone knew what was going to happen but was trying to make as much as they could up to that point. __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com