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Supz · 11-27-2012, 10:15 PM

Laura bush killed a guy

brassmonkey · 11-27-2012, 10:19 PM

this didnt happen in cali

Mr Pheer · 11-27-2012, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

this didnt happen in cali

Nobody said it did.

Rochard · 11-27-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Just for Rochard, because I have a feeling he is going to keep saying a store owner or employee cannot touch you...

California Law concerning shoplifters:

Surely wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong.

Rochard · 11-27-2012, 11:28 PM

This is interesting...

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Because shoplifting poses a large threat to retailers, the issue of how far they can go in attempts to stop shoplifters has a long history.

Private citizens generally may not legally hold people against their will. Doing so opens the door to civil and even criminal liability for false imprisonment. However, many states have enacted statutes specifically authorizing stores and their employees to detain suspected shoplifters in certain circumstances. These laws serve to protect the stores from lawsuits claiming false imprisonment or false arrest.

Though these laws vary, store owners and their employees generally are allowed to detain an individual when they have probable cause to suspect shoplifting. However, any such detention of a suspected shoplifter must be reasonable in length and manner. Detentions without probable cause, for an unreasonable amount of time, or in an unreasonable manner may leave the store open to liability for false imprisonment and possibly other claims.

What constitutes probable cause to suspect shoplifting comes down to case by case specifics. Mere suspicion typically will not suffice. Most states require that the store or its employees have evidence which would lead a reasonable person to believe that shoplifting had occurred or was in progress. If the store bases its detention of a suspected shoplifter on information from a non-employee informer, that informer must have a reasonable basis for suspecting shoplifting.

The appropriate length of detention also comes down to case by case specifics. However, detention continued for the purpose of securing a confession from the suspect, or for the purpose of getting the suspect to sign a waiver of store liability, would be considered unreasonable under many states' laws. Such detentions could leave a store open to liability for false imprisonment.

In terms of the manner of detention, the use of excessive force may be deemed unreasonable. An unreasonable manner of detention could leave the store and its employees open to liability for false imprisonment and possibly other claims, such as assault or battery.

http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal...oplifting.html

DAMNMAN · 11-28-2012, 06:27 AM

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First off, the man was in the process of stealing so I could care less. I know that sounds harsh and that death is not a fitting punishment for stealing two DVD players, but I believe in Karma... You get what you deserve. If he wasn't stealing, he would still be alive today.

Also, I don't think he died because he was put in a choke hold. Most likely he had a heart condition or something.

And... store employees are not allowed to touch you. Ever. No matter what they are not law enforcement, cannot hold you, restrain you, or touch you in any shape or form. If they do, it's assault, plain and simple.

So if the store employees are not allowed (By Law) to put hands on a shoplifter, then the guys family will be rich. Plain and simple........ regardless of what he was doing.
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If he was choked to death it was intentional, I see guys choked to sleep a couple of times a month in BJJ class and they are all still alive. When they go out ya let them go and then they recover in a couple of minutes.

tony286 · 11-28-2012, 06:32 AM

Stopping someone from leaving is all fine.But beating shit out of him and causing his death is a different story. I dont understand why walmart doesnt hire off duty cops to deal with this for big shopping days. Fucking night clubs and office complexes here hire them. They are expensive but you got a armed cop working just for you.

TheSquealer · 11-28-2012, 07:18 AM

With 4,000,000 employees and being one of the worlds largest companies and definitely the largest in the world catering to thee worst elements of society, I would say its a mathematical certainty that this will happen from time to time. How many people did wallmart catch shoplifting that day alone in that store? I know that if all the merchandise stolen from wallmart annually went to another company to sell, it would put that company high on the Fortune 500 list.

Does anyone deserve to die for shoplifting? No. But how many people get chased out of wallmart's across the nation and restrained everyday? 1000? 5000? 10,000? How many per week? Per year? 1,000,000? One accidentaly died. Boo fucking hoo. Shit happens.

TheSquealer · 11-28-2012, 07:23 AM

Crazy that we now have a society where people think its ok to steal and no one should be able to stop you as you escape.

V_RocKs · 11-28-2012, 07:23 AM

Either way.... he deserved what he got... Stealing a loaf of bread? OK... Stealing because you are a shit fuck idiot? You deserve to die.

alex.missyouth · 11-28-2012, 07:31 AM

Now seriosuly, is there really a need to use a choke fold on a guy? I mean, I'm sure the security guards were bigger than him and trained to immobilize him without using that. I think this was just an act of cruel nonsense violence, regardless of the fact that he was stealing two DVD players.

John-ACWM · 11-28-2012, 09:17 AM

Indeed Walmart is a scary place!

brassmonkey · 11-28-2012, 09:21 AM

ok picture this people. what if they thought you stole something and wrestled you to the ground? dead mistake?

it can happen to anyone that shops there.

Tom_PM · 11-28-2012, 09:24 AM

Sad. But not as sad as the fat ass teacher who sat on a unruly student and he died. What was that, just a year or so ago? I'm betting these were typical overweight people leaning on the guy.. of course he's going to die. It's hard to tell when a struggle to escape has become a struggle for a breath.

RyuLion · 11-28-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

i can imagine the lawyers rubbing their chops...if there is someone you want to sue....it is walmart

mopek1 · 11-28-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by freakcore

Due to his intention, 4 peoples lives are forever changed.

Not buying that for a second.

dillonaire · 11-28-2012, 11:01 AM

What im most shocked about is that this day and age someone was stealing dvd player!?!!? Dont they give DVD players out for free with the purchase of a DVD. Or go to the craigslist free section....im sure lots of people listing them for free.

brassmonkey · 11-28-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff

What im most shocked about is that this day and age someone was stealing dvd player!?!!? Dont they give DVD players out for free with the purchase of a DVD. Or go to the craigslist free section....im sure lots of people listing them for free.

new in box = drugs he was strung out

TheSquealer · 11-28-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

ok picture this people. what if they thought you stole something and wrestled you to the ground? dead mistake?

it can happen to anyone that shops there.

It can happen to anyone who is being watched and tracked by loss prevention and followed out of the store as they try to run for it and need to be restrained.

They don't randomly stop people or do it by accident. Wrongly accusing someone of shoplifting is an instant "defamation of character" lawsuit/settlement. It isn't going to "happen to anyone that shops there" and the fact that you even suggest that shows how irrational you are.

escorpio · 11-28-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

its going to make his family rich

"Mmm hmmm, dat's right! Dis here be a lawsoot! We gon' git PAID!"

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TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,124	With 4,000,000 employees and being one of the worlds largest companies and definitely the largest in the world catering to thee worst elements of society, I would say its a mathematical certainty that this will happen from time to time. How many people did wallmart catch shoplifting that day alone in that store? I know that if all the merchandise stolen from wallmart annually went to another company to sell, it would put that company high on the Fortune 500 list. Does anyone deserve to die for shoplifting? No. But how many people get chased out of wallmart's across the nation and restrained everyday? 1000? 5000? 10,000? How many per week? Per year? 1,000,000? One accidentaly died. Boo fucking hoo. Shit happens. Last edited by TheSquealer; 11-28-2012 at 07:20 AM..

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Stopping someone from leaving is all fine.But beating shit out of him and causing his death is a different story. I dont understand why walmart doesnt hire off duty cops to deal with this for big shopping days. Fucking night clubs and office complexes here hire them. They are expensive but you got a armed cop working just for you.

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dillonaire Confirmed User Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,795	What im most shocked about is that this day and age someone was stealing dvd player!?!!? Dont they give DVD players out for free with the purchase of a DVD. Or go to the craigslist free section....im sure lots of people listing them for free. __________________ . "Deja moo - The feeling you've heard this Bull before." Skype: jeffreydillon Email: [email protected]