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Old 03-02-2013, 01:02 AM   #1
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Playboy Webmasters

From four years that I'm no more a full time webmaster and stop submitting 5 TGP/MGP galleries from different programs, Playboy Webmasters program has become my main adult business income (50%) with the traffic I send to Playboy from my Tribute to Playmates site.

Unfortunately from the middle of january, Playboy sales have dropped a lot (roughly 50%).

From my side, my global traffic hasn't drop so much (less than 5%) and I still receive the same amount of SE traffic.

So I would like to know if some of you experience the same kind of problem otherwise I will have to investigate what happens with my traffic.

Thanks for your help.
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:06 AM   #2
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Sounds like you may have been Mawined. Sorry
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:27 AM   #3
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Sounds like you may have been Mawined. Sorry


^^ most likely man..I had to same experience but I don't usually post this..
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:25 AM   #4
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The Cyber Club seems to have been taken down, it was still accessible in January. The other day I was looking for the Playboy Casting Calls but couldn't find them, they haven't been migrated to Playboy Plus either. If the content you use to promote them is old, perhaps it's no longer accessible inside the members area.
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Old 03-02-2013, 09:10 AM   #6
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just checked my stats, same situation with this program
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From four years that I'm no more a full time webmaster and stop submitting 5 TGP/MGP galleries from different programs, Playboy Webmasters program has become my main adult business income (50%) with the traffic I send to Playboy from my Tribute to Playmates site.

Unfortunately from the middle of january, Playboy sales have dropped a lot (roughly 50%).

From my side, my global traffic hasn't drop so much (less than 5%) and I still receive the same amount of SE traffic.

So I would like to know if some of you experience the same kind of problem otherwise I will have to investigate what happens with my traffic.

Thanks for your help.
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What do you do with your mobile traffic?? At VPSMobile we have orignial Playboy content availble! Check it out!
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What do you do with your mobile traffic?? At VPSMobile we have orignial Playboy content availble! Check it out!
can I setup WL for playboy content?
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hello fred

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Same. I've promoted playboy since 2006 and had 1:300 ratios, today? 1:5000
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Ever since I found out that the collapse of my webcams.com conversions around April 2010 coincided exactly with Manwin/Mansef purchasing the program I knew to stay away from anything they touch.
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Same here Fred... after Manwin aquired Nastydollars my nastydollars sales went to shit, now that they acquired PlayboyWebmasters my playboy sales have gone to total shit.....
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Well what current sposnor stats do stand up to 5 years ago?

PBs content is on the torrents sites daily - still much in demand it seems, just most wont even contemplate paying for it...
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That is one of the most poorly written 'articles' i've ever read.
Mike soutt wrote it during a lap dance
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Same here Fred... after Manwin aquired Nastydollars my nastydollars sales went to shit, now that they acquired PlayboyWebmasters my playboy sales have gone to total shit.....
My sales rate was good with Playboy Plus cause I mainly didn't use their hosted galleries, only mines and my traffic is really playmates targeted.

So if I could complain as a surfer that I prefer the old Cyberclub to the new Playboy Plus, as a webmaster, Year 2012 was good for me with Playboy sales. But Year 2013 is getting bad from 15 january.
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Hey Fred,


Please hit me up. Having ratio fluctuations is normal but I am confident we can put our team to work for you and get those sales back up!

We just put the final touches on some new PlayBoyPlus landing pages + we have some really great converting PlayBoy tv ads/landers lately.

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My joins went from $3,000 a month to $0 since August 2012... Somebody has the "allow joins" in their software turned off.
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My joins went from $3,000 a month to $0 since August 2012... Somebody has the "allow joins" in their software turned off.

I assume that's because you were using only hosted galleries? They turn them off and redirect all URLs to a tour page a few months ago.
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Please hit me up. Having ratio fluctuations is normal but I am confident we can put our team to work for you and get those sales back up!

We just put the final touches on some new PlayBoyPlus landing pages + we have some really great converting PlayBoy tv ads/landers lately.

ICQ authorization sent
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How do you make $3,000 a month with them and not have a good relationship with their affiliate managers?
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My ratio with ND has been pretty steady.
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Well what current sposnor stats do stand up to 5 years ago?

PBs content is on the torrents sites daily - still much in demand it seems, just most wont even contemplate paying for it...
ahem..

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neeko, fred is 100% right on this... something is wrong and ive tried now for a couple of months to get this looked at properly without success. There are several issues at PBC, please hit me up when u get a chance.. i left u an ICQ message as well
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No answer yet.

What I could say from my Playboy fan and adult webmaster point of view is that :

Manwin scores one point merging the cyberclub with the main site, but they made several mistakes that bring them to a situation where the Playboy licence seems not profitable for them.

1) Playboy Plus members pages navigation was not good in the first months.
2) Pictorials for months have been whitened, with no colours and no contrast. If it seems better now, a few pictorial are still whitened.
3) Online videos were not easy to read for months, really frustating for members. It took them several months to solve that.
4) Some videos lasting 10 mn were offering full nudity only a few seconds. A lot of Playboy fan didn't like that.
5) Manwin team didn't clearly manage the different categories Cybergirl, Coed and Amateurs. Now that Coed title has gone, there's only Cybergirl and Amateur category but fans still wonder what Amateur means.
6) A few weks ago, Manwin reduced daily updates from two pictorials to one, surely to save the cost but unfortunately that's not a good point to keep members.

From my Playboy fan point of view, Manwin didn't manage to keep the spirit of Playboy in Playboy Plus. A lots of long term members cancelled their membership because they didn't find anymore in Playboy Plus what they loved in the Playboy Cyberclub.

Obviously, Manwin attract new members with Playboy Plus but I'm not sure these new members are long terms reccuring members and an adult site as Playboy needs a bulk of recurring members to be profitable.
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Please hit me up. Having ratio fluctuations is normal but I am confident we can put our team to work for you and get those sales back up!

We just put the final touches on some new PlayBoyPlus landing pages + we have some really great converting PlayBoy tv ads/landers lately.

I went from 1:880 (2008-2012) to 0:5500 (2013). Recently I have replaced tons of links headed to PBGirls with various landing pages of Playboy Plus and nothing happened... I am not sure that new landing pages will help...
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neeko, fred is 100% right on this... something is wrong and ive tried now for a couple of months to get this looked at properly without success. There are several issues at PBC, please hit me up when u get a chance.. i left u an ICQ message as well
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Playboy is like a vast desert where explorers come to find ancient riches from which legends of bejeweled and perfumed harems were foretold and only end up getting buried alive in the sands of detritus.

One day the imperial vault in the pyramid of the Pharaoh Tutankhefner shall be opened and a great and terrible curse shall be lifted, but until then, everyone is essentially fucked.
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A few months ago (December) I entered this "babes" world let's say (met art, sex art, babes, nubilefilms and so on).

I see the ratings are around 1:10000 . I have google traffic and on the sponsor's stats it shows around 5 - 7 Jclicks but without any conversion...

maybe the world has no more money for porn...
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This Year stats: 1:4880
Last Year: 1:1130

Funny how the other Manwin programs like Twistys and Babes Money went to hell as well:

Twistys this year: 1:2935
Babes Money: 1:5011
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Hey its spot on accurate AND its FREE

you want accurate and george will itll cost a buck a day like a newspaper

so how bout that?
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Still no answer.
It looks like I better have to start building some galleries for DDG and Holly Randall now and reduce the amount of galleries I build for Playboy.
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Still no answer.
It looks like I better have to start building some galleries for DDG and Holly Randall now and reduce the amount of galleries I build for Playboy.
Just keep in mind that Holly Randall will soon be moving to Met-Art, so build them in a way the makes it easy to switch out the link code.
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So PlayboyWebmasters is totally absent? No communication anymore from affiliates to them?

I am locked out of my account, tried contacting Sean but no reply
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So PlayboyWebmasters is totally absent? No communication anymore from affiliates to them?

I am locked out of my account, tried contacting Sean but no reply
I mean Neeko, who answered this thread didn't contact me yet.

Sean is still answering but he is not able to explain me why we see such a drop in sales ratio.
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I mean Neeko, who answered this thread didn't contact me yet.

Sean is still answering but he is not able to explain me why we see such a drop in sales ratio.
Hey Fred,

I know you have been in contact with Sean from our team as you pointed out.
I am adding you to icq now.

Pls reply when you are back on.

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Originally Posted by jscott View Post
Sean got me fixed up.

Thanks Sean
How are the sales rate for you ?
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