attention anti gun nuts, read this:

[Grapesoda]

http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-...ashing-inside-

SAN JOSE -- A Walmart store erupted into chaos and at least four people were hurt Sunday when a man rammed an Oldsmobile Cutlass through the entrance, then attacked an employee and shoppers with a blunt object, police said.

At 11:15 a.m., the unidentified driver in the red, two-door Cutlass Salon struck two other automobiles in the Walmart Supercenter parking lot, at 777 Story Road, in East San Jose and then crashed through the pharmacy and market entrance and continued a few dozen feet until colliding into a beer display. After leaving his car, he picked up an object inside the store and assaulted people, seriously injuring at least one, said San Jose Police Officer Albert Morales.

WalMart employees huddle in the parking lot outside the store on Story Road in San Jose, Calif., after a vehicle drove into the building and a driver reportedly began assaulting people in the store Sunday afternoon March 31, 2013. (Karl Mondon/Staff) (Karl Mondon)
was a Walmart employee.

The assailant, described as a man in his 30s, was tackled and tied up by bystanders, according to one shopper who did not want her name used. Police said the driver was arrested and is being treated at a local hospital. As of Sunday afternoon, police had not identified him, Morales said, and would only say his injuries are not life-threatening.

The person suffering serious injuries and three others who sustained lesser, non-life-threatening injuries, were transported to a local hospital, Morales said.

Shocking car moves

Sharon Kaye of San Jose was still feeling shaken on Sunday afternoon after her car was sideswiped by the Cutlass. She said the driver first hit

a car near the parking lot entrance, then struck her 2009 Honda CRV as she was waiting in it near the front of the store to turn into a parking aisle. The Cutlass then sped up and down other parking aisles, again approaching her car head-on.

"Oh, my goodness, he's going to hurt someone," Kaye said she thought to herself as she turned from confused to frightened. The speeding car drove over collision debris, passing her car on the right. It did another turn around the parking lot, then came from behind Kaye's car, drove between cement pylons on the walkway and tried unsuccessfully to veer into the glass doors at the store entrance, she said. When the turn proved to be too acute, Kaye said, the driver backed up and came at the doors from a wider angle and plowed through them and the door frames.

"I stood there shocked," she said. "It was very scary." She told the first arriving police officer that he needed to call for backup.

According to police, once inside the store, the driver exited the car and began assaulting people. One shopper said the weapon appeared to be a metal bar.

Inside, Morales said, "people were running out of the store, people were crying, people were just confused about what was going on."

Injured associate

Shopper Tianna Doan of San Jose said that a Walmart cashier was struck and suffered a head injury. She also said that shoppers were trying to take the driver out of the car and hold him down.

Paramedics treated the injured and placed them in ambulances. Police cordoned off the parking lot.

The store was evacuated and closed for several hours, Walmart spokesman Kory Lundberg said. "We're obviously very concerned about the associate who was injured."

Authorities hauled the car away around 2 p.m. and crews were working to repair the automatic doors where the car crashed through. At mid-afternoon, they were still interviewing some of the 70 people they had identified as witnesses, Morales said.

Police did not identify the victims, nor their conditions.

Kaye, an opera singer and voice teacher, said although her car lost its bumper, sustained other damage and had to be towed, she is grateful that she was not seriously injured. She had just attended Easter services and left church early to pick up ingredients to make scalloped potatoes for Easter dinner.

"I did not get the potatoes," she said. Her son picked her up from the parking lot. Although she plans to get checked out by her doctor Monday, she said, overall, "I am very blessed."

[SilentKnight]

Wait...he collided with a beer display?!!!

[NaughtyVisions]

"Attention anti-gun nuts"

So this article is supposed to do what exactly with the argument for or against guns?

Because I know the first thought of many to read that article is going to be:

"Four people hurt. Only one seriously injured, and ZERO dead. Imagine the outcome if the guy had a gun."

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by silentknight

wait...he collided with a beer display?!!! :oh crap

bastard!!!

[Dirty F]

Thank god that guy didn't have access to a gun.

[SuckOnThis]

No one dead. Perfect pro-gun thread.

[bronco67]

I dare you to make less sense.

[SuckOnThis]

Meanwhile.....

US gun violence kills 3,000 in past three months

More than 3,000 Americans have lost their lives in gun-related violence since the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, in mid-December 2012, a new report says.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/03...0-in-4-months/

[beerptrol]

The old "cars should be banned too". I just hope the item he picked up in the store to assault people with wasn't a ham or slab of bacon, because you gun nuts would be asking "why not ban that too"

[adulttraffic]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Thank god that guy didn't have access to a gun.

Thank god he dident drink the beer display before he drove into it

[American Psycho]

just like black friday!!!

he should have had a gun, walmart shopper population should be trimmed regularly anyways!

sorry very insensitive but couldnt help myself and its true you know it!

[adulttraffic]

Originally Posted by American Psycho

just like black friday!!!

he should have had a gun, walmart shopper population should be trimmed regularly anyways!

sorry very insensitive but couldnt help myself and its true you know it!

Bad joke, let them die from obesity and heartache. No need for a gun here.

[brassmonkey]

its childish the name calling. meanwhile my guns have not been fired in over a month. that story has nothing to do with the majority of gun owners.

[Rochard]

So a drunken man assaulted someone and was arrested without anyone pulling out a firearm? So we need firearms WHY?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Rochard

So a drunken man assaulted someone and was arrested without anyone pulling out a firearm? So we need firearms WHY?

its none of your business the guns that are in my home. whats that saying about fences?

[Rochard]

Nah, this story would have been MUCH better if a store employee blew the drunken idiot away... Because, you know, everyone trusts our fucking minimum wage bottom of the barrel Wal Mart employee to be fully armed.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Meanwhile.....

US gun violence kills 3,000 in past three months

More than 3,000 Americans have lost their lives in gun-related violence since the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, in mid-December 2012, a new report says.

Shouldn't that story really read GANG VIOLENCE kills a majority of 3,000 people in the past 3 months?

Most of the people killed from guns are from criminals killing them.

And gun laws won't slow down a gang member or criminal from getting any gun they want any time they want it. Just like drug laws over the past few decades have resulted in MORE and better quality drugs.

[harvey]

[PornoMonster]

Sure sucks that the compassion for someone that has gone mental is more than an injured worker.

"Shopper Tianna Doan of San Jose said that a Walmart cashier was struck and suffered a head injury."

Since GUNS were used for the title and obvious what the OP is trying to do, I will go there.

If I was the store employee struck in the HEAD with a METAL object, I sure would of wanted this CRAZY SHOT and Stopped Before he injured me.

But hey keep thinking with your Heart, and not your Brain...

[Supz]

thats fucked up ruining a cutlass like that.

[ottopottomouse]

So, swords are more dangerous than guns?

[tony286]

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

"Attention anti-gun nuts"

So this article is supposed to do what exactly with the argument for or against guns?

Because I know the first thought of many to read that article is going to be:

"Four people hurt. Only one seriously injured, and ZERO dead. Imagine the outcome if the guy had a gun."

Yep,I love how you want some regulation and you become an anti-gun nut. lol

[Scott McD]

I'm still trying to work out the very confusing thread title, and the relevance to the thread topic...

[Best-In-BC]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Wait...he collided with a beer display?!!!

Your know you got a fucking public problem when at your pharmacy you can buy beer, even worse, a fucking display, talk about laughing in the face common sense.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

"Attention anti-gun nuts"

So this article is supposed to do what exactly with the argument for or against guns?

Because I know the first thought of many to read that article is going to be:

"Four people hurt. Only one seriously injured, and ZERO dead. Imagine the outcome if the guy had a gun."

nope, just to yank your chain because you are reactionary and people get shot all the time and don't die... ever hear or a wounded war vet?

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

Your know you got a fucking public problem when at your pharmacy you can buy beer, even worse, a fucking display, talk about laughing in the face common sense.

My local Rite-Aid pharmacy has a full beer and hard liquor section.

.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Shouldn't that story really read GANG VIOLENCE kills a majority of 3,000 people in the past 3 months?

Most of the people killed from guns are from criminals killing them.

And gun laws won't slow down a gang member or criminal from getting any gun they want any time they want it. Just like drug laws over the past few decades have resulted in MORE and better quality drugs.

Robbie please stop making sense at GFY

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

Your know you got a fucking public problem when at your pharmacy you can buy beer, even worse, a fucking display, talk about laughing in the face common sense.

so.... it's okay to buy hardcore drugs... but not beer??????

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Thank god that guy didn't have access to a gun.

[pornguy]

Mexico has strict laws against guns.

2010: 11,309
2009: 8,804
2008: 5,095
2007: 4,040
2006: 3,530
2005: 3,212
2004: 2,858
2003: 3,006
2002: 2,606
2001: 3,512
2000: 3,589
1999: 4,390
1998: 3,286
1997: 5,044


Those are pretty high numbers for no guns permitted.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Shouldn't that story really read GANG VIOLENCE kills a majority of 3,000 people in the past 3 months?

No.

'estimates suggest that gang-related homicides typically accounted for around 12 percent of all homicides annually.'

http://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/Su...-Gang-Problems

Originally Posted by Robbie

Most of the people killed from guns are from criminals killing them.

Obviously, the moment someone kills another person they are a criminal.

Originally Posted by Robbie

And gun laws won't slow down a gang member or criminal from getting any gun they want any time they want it.

How would you know? We never have had any real gun laws in this country. But you're telling me its just as easy for someone to acquire a gun in Spain or The UK than it is in Florida?

Originally Posted by Robbie

Just like drug laws over the past few decades have resulted in MORE and better quality drugs.

The only drug that is of better quality than it was decades ago is marijuana due to better growing techniques. Are you seriously comparing a plant that any 15 year old can grow in his closet to a device that is manufactured in a factory?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

nope, just to yank your chain because you are reactionary and people get shot all the time and don't die... ever hear or a wounded war vet?

So what are you saying? You want every bottom of the barrel Wal Mart employee armed? So they can shoot a drunken idiot?

Meanwhile a four year old child is dead in Miami from a handgun:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/3...-to-death.html

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rochard

So what are you saying? You want every bottom of the barrel Wal Mart employee armed? So they can shoot a drunken idiot?

Meanwhile a four year old child is dead in Miami from a handgun:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/3...-to-death.html

are you on meds? I gotta wonder because you take statements and push them to illogical ends.... I do remember you stating that you have assault rifles and are a retired marine... so you can have guns and other can't? and why should I be punished for the crimes and negligence of a few?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Mexico has strict laws against guns.

2010: 11,309
2009: 8,804
2008: 5,095
2007: 4,040
2006: 3,530
2005: 3,212
2004: 2,858
2003: 3,006
2002: 2,606
2001: 3,512
2000: 3,589
1999: 4,390
1998: 3,286
1997: 5,044


Those are pretty high numbers for no guns permitted.

at least none of these gun murders are by gang members

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Shouldn't that story really read GANG VIOLENCE kills a majority of 3,000 people in the past 3 months?

Most of the people killed from guns are from criminals killing them.

And gun laws won't slow down a gang member or criminal from getting any gun they want any time they want it. Just like drug laws over the past few decades have resulted in MORE and better quality drugs.

Because only gang members shoot each other, RIGHT?

Just like that four year old girl shot dead in Miami yesterday.... And the guy in the Colorado movie shooting, he was a gang member right? And shot and killed gang members right?

Three more were shot dead last night during a bar fight.

[CDSmith]

What kind of beer was it that got killed by the gutles...I mean the Cutlass?

Focus people, BEER.

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Wait...he collided with a beer display?!!!

Guess they can at least charge him with DUI...

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Because only gang members shoot each other, RIGHT?

Just like that four year old girl shot dead in Miami yesterday.... And the guy in the Colorado movie shooting, he was a gang member right? And shot and killed gang members right?

Three more were shot dead last night during a bar fight.

They were not, BUT No Gun LAW is going to stop it either.

[Vendzilla]

What would have been funny is if a 70 year old woman with a carry permit walked up behind the guy.

Rochard, do you really think gang bangers are going to obey new gun restrictions?

Don't pass laws against legal gun owners because of illegal activities, it just doesn't make sense

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

are you on meds? I gotta wonder because you take statements and push them to illogical ends.... I do remember you stating that you have assault rifles and are a retired marine... so you can have guns and other can't?

That is EXACTLY what I am saying.

I just drove from Sacramento to LA and back, and a lot in-between. I don't trust ninety percent of you behind wheel, no less do I trust ninety percent of you with a firearm.

You all scream about your need to protect yourself, yet I am guessing not one of you have taken any hand to hand combat classes. At the same time, you all think you are James Bond and you think that at 3am from a dead sleep you'll be able to protect yourself from a unknown amount of criminals without shooting your own family.

It rarely works that way. That fucker who made the videos for the NRA was shot dead in his own home surrounded by his firearms. When "it" happens, it happens quickly, and you never see it coming.

Yes, I have firearms. But I am under no illusion that I will be able to defend myself at 3am (this is why I have an alarm and a dog and a baseball bat), nor will my firearms protect me at the movies or the mall.

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

and why should I be punished for the crimes and negligence of a few?

No one is punishing you at all. You have your firearms, I have mine. I have a fucking AR15 (more than one!). No one is taking your firearms away from you.

[Vendzilla]

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Because only gang members shoot each other, RIGHT?

Just like that four year old girl shot dead in Miami yesterday.... And the guy in the Colorado movie shooting, he was a gang member right? And shot and killed gang members right?

Three more were shot dead last night during a bar fight.

that's why its a issue now! the guns are now aimed at white folks

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by Rochard

That is EXACTLY what I am saying.

I just drove from Sacramento to LA and back, and a lot in-between. I don't trust ninety percent of you behind wheel, no less do I trust ninety percent of you with a firearm.

You all scream about your need to protect yourself, yet I am guessing not one of you have taken any hand to hand combat classes. At the same time, you all think you are James Bond and you think that at 3am from a dead sleep you'll be able to protect yourself from a unknown amount of criminals without shooting your own family.

It rarely works that way. That fucker who made the videos for the NRA was shot dead in his own home surrounded by his firearms. When "it" happens, it happens quickly, and you never see it coming.

Yes, I have firearms. But I am under no illusion that I will be able to defend myself at 3am (this is why I have an alarm and a dog and a baseball bat), nor will my firearms protect me at the movies or the mall.



No one is punishing you at all. You have your firearms, I have mine. I have a fucking AR15 (more than one!). No one is taking your firearms away from you.

It DOES NOT MATTER who YOU Trust. Hide in your house then.
You can not pass judgment and restrict people rights because you do not trust them.

The people you need to worry about are the Criminals and the crazies, not the legal law abiding citizens.

No I do wish they had more Training, BUT, using the killings by criminals and crazies is not the way to go about getting it done. Those 2 have nothing to do with each other.

You are more scared of someone you don't trust than a criminal, what a mind twist.

Sure accidents happen and I am sure road rage has involved guns as well, no law will stop that either. I am also sure LOTS more bad things happen from crazies and criminals than accidents.....

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Rochard

That is EXACTLY what I am saying.
You all scream about your need to protect yourself, yet I am guessing not one of you have taken any hand to hand combat classes.

I have, it took a 6'3" asshole in a bar last October to sneak up behind me and smash a beer mug in my face. He's getting sentencing tomorrow. Still don't know why he did it. He was 2 beds over in the ER getting his hand looked at from the damage of the broken glass when I told the cops what he looked like. I never even took a knee.

I'm more worried about my mother or my daughter, that's why they have carry permits.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I have, it took a 6'3" asshole in a bar last October to sneak up behind me and smash a beer mug in my face. He's getting sentencing tomorrow. Still don't know why he did it. He was 2 beds over in the ER getting his hand looked at from the damage of the broken glass when I told the cops what he looked like. I never even took a knee.

I'm more worried about my mother or my daughter, that's why they have carry permits.

So some guy kicked the shit out of you in a bar and that's your hand to hand combat training?

[jmk]

LOL this has 0 to do with any assault weapons laws

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Because only gang members shoot each other, RIGHT?

Just like that four year old girl shot dead in Miami yesterday.... And the guy in the Colorado movie shooting, he was a gang member right? And shot and killed gang members right?

Three more were shot dead last night during a bar fight.

that's the reality of it.. why do you think taking away guns will change human behaviors... just curious about that...

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rochard

That is EXACTLY what I am saying.

I just drove from Sacramento to LA and back, and a lot in-between. I don't trust ninety percent of you behind wheel, no less do I trust ninety percent of you with a firearm.

You all scream about your need to protect yourself, yet I am guessing not one of you have taken any hand to hand combat classes. At the same time, you all think you are James Bond and you think that at 3am from a dead sleep you'll be able to protect yourself from a unknown amount of criminals without shooting your own family.

It rarely works that way. That fucker who made the videos for the NRA was shot dead in his own home surrounded by his firearms. When "it" happens, it happens quickly, and you never see it coming.

Yes, I have firearms. But I am under no illusion that I will be able to defend myself at 3am (this is why I have an alarm and a dog and a baseball bat), nor will my firearms protect me at the movies or the mall.



No one is punishing you at all. You have your firearms, I have mine. I have a fucking AR15 (more than one!). No one is taking your firearms away from you.

cool... BTW 90% of the people you see on the road are on meds ever consider talking your gun to the movies? personally I don't go to movies and haven't in years

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

So some guy kicked the shit out of you in a bar and that's your hand to hand combat training?

For some reason, I don't know why, I decided to look at your post, anytime you want to question my hand to hand training, do it in person!

Or at least get some reading skills, pertaining to the statement, he came at me from behind, no training will prepare you for a coward, I'm sure you can relate

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

For some reason, I don't know why, I decided to look at your post, anytime you want to question my hand to hand training, do it in person!

Or at least get some reading skills, pertaining to the statement, he came at me from behind, no training will prepare you for a coward, I'm sure you can relate

That's the example you gave when he asked you if you ever had hand to hand training you delusional fuck.