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NewOldPlayer · 06-15-2013, 10:29 PM

Movies will NEVER get better, because they are all made and aimed at 15-17 year old kids.

90% of all films released now are aimed at kids, then they release a few "adult" movies around the holidays to scoop up some awards.

Reason being: Adults no longer go to movies. 52% of Americans are on anti depressants and or medication and lack the emotional ability to venture out of their own homes and engage the world socially outside of work and going to the super market.

Have you seen the crowds at movie theaters when they let out? All kids, and a few dates. Rarely do you see any adults.

So, with those specs, it's no wonder that 90% of all films are for the visually driven sugar infested youth with the attention span of a gnat.

Movies don't suck. They only suck if you are older than 18.

BTW, they're not "movies" anymore. They are "amusement park rides."

"Movies" need a brain to understand them. "Amusement park rides" just need a kid on sugar, with a pocket full of his parent's money.

kane · 06-15-2013, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer

Movies will NEVER get better, because they are all made and aimed at 15-17 year old kids.

90% of all films released now are aimed at kids, then they release a few "adult" movies around the holidays to scoop up some awards.

Reason being: Adults no longer go to movies. 52% of Americans are on anti depressants and or medication and lack the emotional ability to venture out of their own homes and engage the world socially outside of work and going to the super market.

Have you seen the crowds at movie theaters when they let out? All kids, and a few dates. Rarely do you see any adults.

So, with those specs, it's no wonder that 90% of all films are for the visually driven sugar infested youth with the attention span of a gnat.

Movies don't suck. They only suck if you are older than 18.

BTW, they're not "movies" anymore. They are "amusement park rides."

"Movies" need a brain to understand them. "Amusement park rides" just need a kid on sugar, with a pocket full of his parent's money.

There was another article posted in a different thread that was written by a movie executive and she was talking about how one of Hollywood's biggest worries is that young guys (I'm assuming 15-25) have migrated from movies to video games. You know they are doing everything they can to get those guys back in the theaters. This is likely why you rarely go more than a month without some kind of big slam-bam action movie being released. Those movies used to just be released during the summer, now they are releasing them year round trying hard to get those young gamers back.

Antonio · 06-16-2013, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Movies SUCK today.
Let me repeat:
SUCK!

There ya go.
Make better movies.

Word. TV shows rock though. ROCK

Captain Kawaii · 06-16-2013, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

There was another article posted in a different thread that was written by a movie executive and she was talking about how one of Hollywood's biggest worries is that young guys (I'm assuming 15-25) have migrated from movies to video games. You know they are doing everything they can to get those guys back in the theaters. This is likely why you rarely go more than a month without some kind of big slam-bam action movie being released. Those movies used to just be released during the summer, now they are releasing them year round trying hard to get those young gamers back.

Good luck with that Hollywood. Economics of movie vs game will kill the movie. Movies are boring and 2-3 hours viewing time. Games can go on for weeks and weeks or years. Most movies made today are crap made by marketing teams, not real directors and real writers. Let Hollywood sink. Develop micro/mini budget filmmakers who actually have an interesting story to tell instead of the drivel being pumped out in Burbank and Hollywood.

Best writing I see right now is coming out of the UK and Scandinavia.

kane · 06-16-2013, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Good luck with that Hollywood. Economics of movie vs game will kill the movie. Movies are boring and 2-3 hours viewing time. Games can go on for weeks and weeks or years. Most movies made today are crap made by marketing teams, not real directors and real writers. Let Hollywood sink. Develop micro/mini budget filmmakers who actually have an interesting story to tell instead of the drivel being pumped out in Burbank and Hollywood.

Best writing I see right now is coming out of the UK and Scandinavia.

The problem is that everyone is chasing the smash hit. They see that the Avengers makes a billion dollars at the box office, likely made a ton in DVD and PPV and all the other rights and everyone wants a piece of that pie because it is a huge amount of profit.

Those are the kinds of movies they are making now in a hope of drawing the 15-25 year old guys to the theater. They aren't necessarily trying to compete head to head with video games, but they are competing for a person't time. If it is a Friday night after work and I just got paid I might be deciding between staying home and playing X-Box or World of Warcraft or going to see Man of Steel.

They can't compete on the bang for your buck front, because they will lose. For $15 bucks I can go see a movie and get a snack to eat during it or I can buy a month of unlimited play on WOW. There is no competition which will last longer. They are just trying to pry me away from WOW long enough to go see a movie.

As for movies with interesting stories that are good. As it has been said several times in this thread. There are plenty of them out there still. You just have to be willing to look for them. My Netflix queues, both DVD and streaming, each have about 40 things in them I want to watch. About 30% of those are TV shows of bigger budget, well-known movies, but the rest is other stuff I have found that looks interesting to me or that other people have suggested for me. some of them are sure to be flops, but some of them are sure to be very good as well.

mardigras · 06-16-2013, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Si

I remember in the 90s when you used to have to wait about 12-18 months for the bloody VHS to come out

I got my first VCR in '81 ($999+tax ON SALE

). It had a manual 2-13 channel knob and a wired remote. There were no video stores around, I used it for TV time-shifting on $20 blank tapes. IF a movie you wanted was available on VHS it had to be ordered through the local record shop or from ads in video magazines and the average price was $89.95. A year or so later our first video store opened. It was tiny. To "join" you bought any tape in the store for $75 and could bring it back at any time to trade for $3. Finding anything I was interested in trading for was hit or miss. I didn't really start collecting movies until a store opened several cities away started selling used tapes for $19.95 for most titles and $9.95-$14.95 for a few.

The Rocky Horror Picture Show looked like it would never be released on home video and for years I tried to get ahold of a bootleg copy I knew was floating around. When I finally did get a copy in 1990, the official release happened just a few months later

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Originally Posted by Si

4. No home comforts at a theatre, you need a piss? Better hold it you fucker, this shit ain't getting paused!

LOL, another RHPS story... my friend recently was laughing about how when we used to regularly go to Rocky Horror he knew I would like clockwork head to the bathroom at the beginning of "Whatever Happened to Saturday Night". We would see it at a Cinema Tavern and would be through our first pitcher by the time the pre-show festivities ended and the movie began. That was my least favorite part of the movie and a perfect time for a bathroom break to get me through the finish. I'd be back in time to see Eddie get the pick

I saw an app awhile back if I recall correctly called Time to Pee. It listed the best times during movies to take a bathroom break while missing the least amount of story line.

kane · 06-16-2013, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

I got my first VCR in '81 ($999+tax ON SALE

). It had a manual 2-13 channel knob and a wired remote. There were no video stores around, I used it for TV time-shifting on $20 blank tapes. IF a movie you wanted was available on VHS it had to be ordered through the local record shop or from ads in video magazines and the average price was $89.95. A year or so later our first video store opened. It was tiny. To "join" you bought any tape in the store for $75 and could bring it back at any time to trade for $3. Finding anything I was interested in trading for was hit or miss. I didn't really start collecting movies until a store opened several cities away started selling used tapes for $19.95 for most titles and $9.95-$14.95 for a few.

The Rocky Horror Picture Show looked like it would never be released on home video and for years I tried to get ahold of a bootleg copy I knew was floating around. When I finally did get a copy in 1990, the official release happened just a few months later

LOL, another RHPS story... my friend recently was laughing about how when we used to regularly go to Rocky Horror he knew I would like clockwork head to the bathroom at the beginning of "Whatever Happened to Saturday Night". We would see it at a Cinema Tavern and would be through our first pitcher by the time the pre-show festivities ended and the movie began. That was my least favorite part of the movie and a perfect time for a bathroom break to get me through the finish. I'd be back in time to see Eddie get the pick

I saw an app awhile back if I recall correctly called Time to Pee. It listed the best times during movies to take a bathroom break while missing the least amount of story line.

In the 80's when VCR's were still really expensive the town I grew up in had a video store open up in it. You could rent a VCR and movies. A few times a year my mom would treat us and we would rent a VCR for the weekend and get six movies. My brother, mom and I each got to pick out two movies we wanted to see. It was tough trying to narrow down all the good looking videos to just two and is sucked back when you picked wrong and ended up with something that sucked.

Jel · 06-16-2013, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by madm1k3

If the movie industry can withstand Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull plus all three of the new star wars films then I'm pretty sure it can withstand anything

Theaters will always be needed for the following reasons:

1. parents who need something to do with their kids and bratty friends
2. Teens who can't drive and need somewhere to make out / dry hump
3. dates when you really dont have anything to talk about but you need to hang with her for a couple of hours before she will put out

people on here are forgetting about the fact cinemas are also about time spent somewhere, and not *just* about the movie.

facialfreak · 06-16-2013, 04:57 AM

BREAKING NEWS!!!!

Chistopher Mallick says Spielberg is FULL OF SHIT!!!

Full story at 11 ......

bronco67 · 06-16-2013, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer

Movies will NEVER get better, because they are all made and aimed at 15-17 year old kids.

90% of all films released now are aimed at kids, then they release a few "adult" movies around the holidays to scoop up some awards.

Reason being: Adults no longer go to movies. 52% of Americans are on anti depressants and or medication and lack the emotional ability to venture out of their own homes and engage the world socially outside of work and going to the super market.

Have you seen the crowds at movie theaters when they let out? All kids, and a few dates. Rarely do you see any adults.

So, with those specs, it's no wonder that 90% of all films are for the visually driven sugar infested youth with the attention span of a gnat.

Movies don't suck. They only suck if you are older than 18.

BTW, they're not "movies" anymore. They are "amusement park rides."

"Movies" need a brain to understand them. "Amusement park rides" just need a kid on sugar, with a pocket full of his parent's money.

I went to see This is the End and Man of Steel this week, and half the crowd was adults, and plenty of old folks too. Quit making up shit. There's tons of movies for adults, you just don't know about them. Are you also the same guy who thinks top 40 is the only music?

PornDiscounts-V · 06-16-2013, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

Of course, and I'm not saying they are stupid for taking the money offered to them. It's just that the film industry has been on their high horses for decades thinking the bottom could never drop out. They have no intentions on adapting. Remember Blockbuster Video? Where are they now? Oh yeah...

Blockbuster video is not around because people don't like driving there when red box is in the grocery store they are already going to. On demand video rentals right from my set top box. Netflix. I could go on. All things that didn't exist when they were big.

dyna mo · 06-16-2013, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by vvvvv

Blockbuster video is not around because people don't like driving there when red box is in the grocery store they are already going to. On demand video rentals right from my set top box. Netflix. I could go on. All things that didn't exist when they were big.

they had their chance. they could have bought netflix in the early years. they could have realized earlier that kiosks work. plenty of different things they could have done.

instead, they kept acting like blockbuster. a bunch of jackasses who think people want to come to their brick&mortar locations to shop and socialize (because hey, we're blockbuster!) all while being raped by blockbuster for late fees.

blockbuster is a joke because it was driven into the ground by ineffectual egotisical executives.

just like the current netflix.

mardigras · 06-16-2013, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

In the 80's when VCR's were still really expensive the town I grew up in had a video store open up in it. You could rent a VCR and movies. A few times a year my mom would treat us and we would rent a VCR for the weekend and get six movies. My brother, mom and I each got to pick out two movies we wanted to see. It was tough trying to narrow down all the good looking videos to just two and is sucked back when you picked wrong and ended up with something that sucked.

We eventually had a store that did that. My sister would go early on Friday to make sure she could get one of the video players and since the store was closed on Sunday got an extra day to use it. I don't remember how many movies came with the rental (I think it was only 2 or 3) but she always got several extra. When she got her own VCR there were several video rental stores and we were in one of them almost every day

We slacked off once I got a big dish satellite that had a ton of channels that weren't available on local cable. She loved going through my satellite guide at the beginning of the month and circle shows she wanted me to tape. I sure miss those days and my sister

mardigras · 06-16-2013, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by vvvvv

Blockbuster video is not around because people don't like driving there when red box is in the grocery store they are already going to. On demand video rentals right from my set top box. Netflix. I could go on. All things that didn't exist when they were big.

Our local Blockbuster had a clearance sale and shut down a year or so ago, then re-opened a few months later in the same location and is still there. What's weird is that the only other location anywhere nearby is a small community about 40 minutes away and none in the larger metro areas where you would expect one.

I love my set top box and Netflix

mardigras · 06-16-2013, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I like going to the movies.

I miss having movie theaters to go to.

Our old time cinema became an office complex, Lowes bought the shopping center our last one was at and it and Pizza Hut became part of the parking lot. The mall in the next town over had 4 screens inside and 5 in an outside building. The outside building was never re-opened after Katrina and still sits there unused. To see a movie not of the few in the mall I have to drive nearly an hour in either direction and I have only seen 2 movies in a theater since 2009

Thankfully as mentioned earlier in this thread movies make it to home video MUCH faster than they used to.

kane · 06-16-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

Our local Blockbuster had a clearance sale and shut down a year or so ago, then re-opened a few months later in the same location and is still there. What's weird is that the only other location anywhere nearby is a small community about 40 minutes away and none in the larger metro areas where you would expect one.

I love my set top box and Netflix

When I moved tot he small town I live in about eight years ago there was a Blockbuster, a Hollywood Video and an independently owned video store. The independent store went out of business about a year after I moved here. Now Hollywood and Blockbuster are both gone. The only option now where you can go rent DVDs is Redbox which is in the two grocery stores. Of course between the options for cable you can also get just about every movie on pay per view, I have netflix as well.

I maybe went to Blockbuster 1-2 times per year in the last 3-4 years they were in business. There are two things that stick out in my memory. First, it seemed like every time I rented a movie I got hit with a late fee. Second, after they got rid of the late fees it seemed like the smaller, lesser known new releases that they only had 1-3 copies of were always out because someone would rent it and keep it for a week.

CPA37710T · 06-16-2013, 05:08 PM

the best example movies are dying, is After Earth... this movie was SOOOO fake!, so improbable! can you believe the hero was a black guy ?

Mutt · 06-16-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer

Reason being: Adults no longer go to movies. 52% of Americans are on anti depressants and or medication and lack the emotional ability to venture out of their own homes and engage the world socially outside of work and going to the super market.

52% of adult Americans suffer from agoraphobia - sounds legit

Hollywood has been targeting the kid and young adult market for decades, this is no new phenomenem that older people don't go to movie theaters in big numbers.

mardigras · 06-16-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

When I moved tot he small town I live in about eight years ago there was a Blockbuster, a Hollywood Video and an independently owned video store. The independent store went out of business about a year after I moved here. Now Hollywood and Blockbuster are both gone. The only option now where you can go rent DVDs is Redbox which is in the two grocery stores. Of course between the options for cable you can also get just about every movie on pay per view, I have netflix as well.

I maybe went to Blockbuster 1-2 times per year in the last 3-4 years they were in business. There are two things that stick out in my memory. First, it seemed like every time I rented a movie I got hit with a late fee. Second, after they got rid of the late fees it seemed like the smaller, lesser known new releases that they only had 1-3 copies of were always out because someone would rent it and keep it for a week.

Hollywood Video! I was trying to remember the name of the chain store we had years before Blockbuster. When it closed we had 5 independent stores and 2 just past city line. Now all we have is Blockbuster. I still have my Blockbuster card but haven't been since it reopened except to drop off videos for my friend next door who goes every few months. We have Redbox at Walgreens and across the street at CVS. We also have Redbox at Walmart, along with a 2nd kiosk, Blockbuster, I believe, only a block from the actual Blockbuster store. I've never used any of them.

All of the independent stores used to have an adult room. Now the only place to find adult videos nearby is an adult video store 3 cities over, sales only, no rentals.

Speaking of adult and Hollywood Video, that is where I got my copy of Pink Flamingos. I had a friend who was working there call me and tell me their copy was for sale. It was out of print so I immediately went down to get it. A clerk and I looked everywhere for it and their computer showed it was in the sale bin. She eventually asked the manager who said it had been pulled and was in the back. She went and got it and I got it for only $9.95. Turns out a preacher's kids had rented it and the mom had a horse when she brought it back

I treasure that copy and transferred it to DVD. Although I now have the official DVD which is widescreen and a much cleaner print, I prefer the VHS version because it has all of the original music. Several songs had to be changed when they couldn't get the licenses for the DVD release. The replacement songs were OK, but the originals fit the scenes so much better

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NewOldPlayer So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 467	Movies will NEVER get better, because they are all made and aimed at 15-17 year old kids. 90% of all films released now are aimed at kids, then they release a few "adult" movies around the holidays to scoop up some awards. Reason being: Adults no longer go to movies. 52% of Americans are on anti depressants and or medication and lack the emotional ability to venture out of their own homes and engage the world socially outside of work and going to the super market. Have you seen the crowds at movie theaters when they let out? All kids, and a few dates. Rarely do you see any adults. So, with those specs, it's no wonder that 90% of all films are for the visually driven sugar infested youth with the attention span of a gnat. Movies don't suck. They only suck if you are older than 18. BTW, they're not "movies" anymore. They are "amusement park rides." "Movies" need a brain to understand them. "Amusement park rides" just need a kid on sugar, with a pocket full of his parent's money.

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CPA37710T business ready hit me up! Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nearby Posts: 1,115	the best example movies are dying, is After Earth... this movie was SOOOO fake!, so improbable! can you believe the hero was a black guy ?