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BlackCrayon · 07-21-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

The point I was getting at was if they choose to separate themselves from the rest of us based on race, then how can we treat them as not different?

Look at Asians for example. When they come to this country they don't call themselves Asian American. They call themselves Americans if they were born here or became a citizen.

Meanwhile the two biggest groups of race batters in the US both separate themselves by calling themselves African American and Latino Americans.

The point being don't be mad if others treat different if you yourself try to make yourself different.

living in ottawa i am surrounded by foreigners and to me the majority are not canadian. they speak their own language, dress their own way and have their own social circles. however basically everyone does this to varying degrees. i have my own circle of friends who dress and behave a certain way, as do most people. if i were truly honest i could say that i don't care for foreigners as the canada i grew up in seems to be disappearing and being replaced by scattered groups of every nationality in existence, all wanting to change the country to suit their culture and their interests.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-21-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

I think people like you (Grapesoda) are just freaking out because you're becoming more and more of a minority by the day.

And I am not talking racial or anything else, but instead your thinking.

QFT!

Lol @ BMB/Grapesoda, GFY's resident curmudgeon racist troll...

ADG

Grapesoda · 07-21-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

QFT!

Lol @ Grapesoda, GFY's resident curmudgeon racist troll...

ADG

just because I point out the flaws in your addled drug addicted notions and chose to look to reality had no bearing on racism, and you know that.

if I point out that that the 75% of violent crimes are commented by 13% of the population, how is that racism?

you're a big one on protesting and civil rights... how about getting out there and protesting for this guys civil rights..... oh but that wouldn't be fashionable would it???

beside it's probably just a coincidence that Obama got involved in a racial agenda.. I mean with all the scandals in his presidency right now and suddenly the press is busy sucking up to guys like you... here's a clue for ya... right after you get done sucking dick... that's when you get fucked, just lay back and enjoy it.

Grapesoda · 07-21-2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

living in ottawa i am surrounded by foreigners and to me the majority are not canadian. they speak their own language, dress their own way and have their own social circles. however basically everyone does this to varying degrees. i have my own circle of friends who dress and behave a certain way, as do most people. if i were truly honest i could say that i don't care for foreigners as the canada i grew up in seems to be disappearing and being replaced by scattered groups of every nationality in existence, all wanting to change the country to suit their culture and their interests.

yeah and weird part is they fucked up their country so bad that has to leave, now they want to make our countries like theirs...

TheSquealer · 07-21-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

you're a big one on protesting and civil rights... how about getting out there and protesting for this guys civil rights..... oh but that wouldn't be fashionable would it???

The "compassionate" are often very selective in their supposed compassion. Protesting is almost always a selfish, feel good thing for the individual... not really about affecting change. In fact, I think that is most cases, its one of the lowest forms of human behavior because its based on a lie and lack of compassion. For example, giving the junkie/homeless guy 5.00 at the intersection.... when the truth is that he's going to buy booze or drugs, vs actually trying to do something to improve his life, getting him help etc. People spend 100 calories demonstrating their compassion... then burn countless 1000s of calories letting everyone know how much they care and how little you don't.

The discussion of race is a great example of misguided people pretending to care. No one gives a shit how many kids were killed in Chigago. No one knows how many died today. No one will ever see a face, know a name or hear the mother cry. But... people who claim to care about helping never do the math... the uncomfortable math that no one here is worried about running out of gas in the Jewish part of town. No one here is looking over their shoulders as they withdraw money at the ATM in the Indian neighborhood. No one is discussing shitty Japanese test scores in education. No one is wondering why Koreans commit such a disproportionate number of violent crimes. No one is pondering why 50% of Arab women are single mothers.

The most selfish and destructive part of the discussion of racism is that liberals have made discussing any problems racist. So many problems and the only politically correct and acceptable answer is to blame white people. Yet... all other immigrants and minorities, including black immigrants and living their lives, going to work, getting educations, opening businesses and making the most of their lives, while US born blacks want to talk about how horribly they are treated.

Here is a funny thing that NO ONE talks about. African blacks more often than not, look down on US blacks.

oppoten · 07-21-2013, 07:39 PM

My problem with liberals is that they lie too much and too often. The BBC, the arch-liberal of the UK, is damning proof of this. They massage the news, shape public opinion, sincerely believing that they're doing the right thing. But they're lying through their teeth.

I do agree with liberals on many issues, but I can't do the hypocrisy thing. Core liberals need to restore the values of truth, because a culture of lies will only benefit those who profit from it most.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-21-2013, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

just because I point out the flaws in your addled drug addicted notions and chose to look to reality had no bearing on racism, and you know that.

if I point out that that the 75% of violent crimes are commented by 13% of the population, how is that racism?

Well, let's start with the drug-addicted part...shall we?

Aside, from cannabis (which I am legally permitted to consume), I rarely use drugs of any kind, prescription or otherwise. I haven't been drinking alcohol for a few years either.

As I recall, you are a NarcAnon recovering drug addict, so if any one has drug addiction issues, I'm guessing it's you, since I have never been a regular drug user or drug addict.

We agree on something, citing a statistic isn't racism (I always like to start by finding the common ground).

It's more about this kind of racist and bigoted venom that you spew on a fairly regular basis:

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

personally I think the issue is a bit more than that... I think it's a cultural issue with blacks not assimilating in to white Western/European Culture.. for instance why do I know someone is black on the telephone 95% of time?

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Originally Posted by Trend

A lot of race related discussion on GFY in the past year. Even more so with the Zimmerman trial going on.

So how do you define a racist / racism? I don't care about the textbook definition(s). More interested in yours.

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

pretty simple: some one primarily concerned with race

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the US doesn't protect it's borders or it's citizen and is being taught to be ashamed of it's culture... and every fucking lousy cock sucker that gets here from some piece of shit 3rd world county immediately tries to turn America into the same piece of shit while the US bust it's ass to help so we can all be proud of ethnic and cultural diversity.

and as soon as the filthy Islamic ass wipes start murdering random people in the street over here we will loose EVEN more personal freedom in the name of ethnic equality

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hummmmm... seems like 99% of the race threads are started by 'blacks'... how did the chicken turn out?

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why do only the blacks have leaders? no other races have leaders... are blacks so much dumber than other racers they need special leaders? enquiring minds want to know...

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they should ban the burka from the world

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hummm... Muslims refuse to integrate with ANY society and place themselves into segregated communities or ghettos... sorta like when blacks push for integration into a school the first they do is start black organizations becasue none can understand blacks like blacks do

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

seems as if the human race is still 'tribal' in some respects and 'racism' is just a symptom of that. I don't really see or experience or any racism on a daily basis. but I do think urban 'culture' is crude, vulgar and focused on hubris at best tho....

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

You ever wonder why Arabs are completely fucked up

look at these pics.... what a bunch of fucked up cocksuckers with a fucked up culture for sure and to have to wear your mom's embroiderie hoop on your fucking head all day doesn't help....

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only problem i have is that they are moving to western countries... as long as people stay in their country with their culture i dont care but dont bring that shit to other cultures - adapt to the culture you live in or get the fuck out

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

I agree 100%, unfortunately the first they wanna do is recreate the total piece of shit they left behind.

I didn't even get into your anti-gay diatribes. That you are a racist bigot should be pretty obvious by now.

Anyway, I rest my case.

A few positive thoughts:

Have a nice rest of the weekend!

ADG

TheSquealer · 07-21-2013, 07:52 PM

So again, you've said nothing of import or substance. Congrats. Liked it better when you just posted pictures. Calling people racist, whether true or not, has nothing to do with addressing the problems that exist in 2013. Racism doesn't cause dads to run off, end up in prison and for single mothers below the poverty line to keep having kids... nor does it put liquor stores on every corner in some communities.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-21-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

So again, you've said nothing of import or substance. Congrats. Liked it better when you just posted pictures. Calling people racist, whether true or not, has nothing to do with addressing the problems that exist in 2013. Racism doesn't cause dads to run off, end up in prison and for single mothers below the poverty line to keep having kids... nor does it put liquor stores on every corner in some communities.

Please tell everyone how you would address the problems that exist in 2013?

I guess you missed this post of mine earlier in the thread which does address problems that exist in 2013:

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Since you asked, here are some of the things which some liberals are doing, and I presume even some conservatives are doing to contribute time/money/support:

People in other cities can find out where a vigil is taking place near them by Googling "Justice for Trayvon vigil", and 100 city or your city name. There will reportedly be vigils in over 130 cities.

At the vigil there will be opportunities to find out what other groups and individuals are doing, so that you may find other ways to become more involved.

This Vigil event is being organized by the National Action Network . Their website has links to other resources related to social justice as well.

Others wanting to do more can contact a local NAACP chapter, or get involved in some other way.

Voting for elected representatives that share your views on civil rights and social justice, and encouraging them to vote for issues which you support is another way to get involved.

As for me personally, I'm active in trying to stop violence in general by promoting peace in many ways. I've been an activist for decades. I've tried to educate myself, spoken publicly, organized/participated in events, written letters, marched, donated lots of time and money, and I've even been arrested for civil disobedience a handful of times.

So what are conservatives doing to stem all of the violence caused by white people? You do know that more murders are committed by white people than any other race in the US, and that the majority (82%) is white on white murder, right?

What are you personally going to do about that?

We are not in some post-racial utopia, and the dystopia we find ourselves in is no accident. I believe that most people whom consider themselves liberal understand that much of the heavy lifting will have to come from within the black community, however it stands to reason that if people are in solidarity instead of active opposition, that the difficult tasks ahead of the black community will be made easier.

Jackson Browne, Eddie Vedder, John Fogarty join Bruce Springsteen to sing Elvis Costello's Peace Love and Understanding:

I feel sad for bitter hateful people that are blinded by prejudice and ignorance, I have better things to do tonight (or so says my better half).

Peace and Love,

ADG

There are links to resources aplenty above for anyone that wishes to become more active.

If that's not good enough for you, then don't be sad, it's just too bad.

Most often I say what I have to say, and leave it at that. Usually short and sweet, but I assure you that I've been known to rant at length at times during my nearly nine years of posting here.

As for the pix, that's my schtick, and I'm schticking to it...

I found this inspirational...

I'm sure there are other liberals here who could post. I've said what I have to say. Otherwise, argue amongst yourselves, or post more racist rants if it makes you feel better (as the world changes around you).

ADG

TheSquealer · 07-21-2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Please tell everyone how you would address the problems that exist in 2013?

Well... the first problem is people with your attitude. You avoid the discussion entirely by labeling others as racist and bigoted, proclaim yourself to be on the moral high ground without even making an argument or addressing any point and then beat a hasty retreat. We live in a world that we've crafted that is so fully fucking retarded that we all have to pretend that a Kenyan and an Eskimo have the exact same chance of winning the Boston Marathon... for fear of being labled "racist"... so it is a word thats used to intimidate others and instantly shuts the conversation down.

Racism in the year 2013 is largely nothing more than the tool of predatory and opportunistic, self serving activists, politicians pandering to their base and the crutch of people who refuse to accept any personal accountability for their actions, decisions and the consequences.

It's true in any aspect of life... you can't improve what you don't accept responsibility for. You can't be a better athlete if you just blame others. You can't be a better businessman if you just blame employees and the economy. You can't stop the massive slaughter of blacks by other blacks by constantly talking about why white people are the problem while at the same time labeling anyone that wants to talk about it as racist.

If the problem is always being looked at as "that thing way over there, thats causing us to be in this situation"... then it will never go away. But thats fine. There are millions counting on that. While others suffer because of it, people like you need it, so you can make some snarky posts and let the world know you care and that you are morally superior to others. People need it to get elected and re-elected. People need it like Al Sharpton et al, so they can stay in the spotlight. People need it who use it as a crutch.

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I guess you missed this post of mine earlier in the thread which does address problems that exist in 2013:

Yeah, hard to believe right? I mean after a decade or more of you just posting pics, i happened to miss the one post where you had something to say? Crazy.

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There are links to resources aplenty above for anyone that wishes to become more active.

If that's not good enough for you, then don't be sad, it's just too bad.

ADG

Right, you care. We get it.

You've saved zero lives. You've stopped zero kids in Chicago from getting shot. You've sponsored no children to get an education. You don't take strangers into your home and feed and clothe them... You run zero charitable organizations... but you "care".

You put some shoes on and went for a short walk carrying a 1lb cardboard sign (maybe).... so you can spend the rest of your life patting yourself on the back for it.

Wonderful.

I'm sure the 17 yr old kid thats in Chicago right now, on his back in an alley... with a pistol in his mouth crying as the shooter pulls the trigger had the final thought "wow, that guy really made a difference".

07-21-2013, 07:52 PM	#58
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,122	So again, you've said nothing of import or substance. Congrats. Liked it better when you just posted pictures. Calling people racist, whether true or not, has nothing to do with addressing the problems that exist in 2013. Racism doesn't cause dads to run off, end up in prison and for single mothers below the poverty line to keep having kids... nor does it put liquor stores on every corner in some communities. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard

07-21-2013, 07:39 PM	#56
oppoten NAME THE JEW Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,793	My problem with liberals is that they lie too much and too often. The BBC, the arch-liberal of the UK, is damning proof of this. They massage the news, shape public opinion, sincerely believing that they're doing the right thing. But they're lying through their teeth. I do agree with liberals on many issues, but I can't do the hypocrisy thing. Core liberals need to restore the values of truth, because a culture of lies will only benefit those who profit from it most.