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JFK · 07-31-2013, 01:37 PM

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ThunderBalls · 07-31-2013, 01:40 PM

The late great Barry Fey once told me "the Stones are proof that successful bands are 10% talent and 90% marketing".

Robbie · 07-31-2013, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

The late great Barry Fey once told me "the Stones are proof that successful bands are 10% talent and 90% marketing".

He must not have been listening to Charlie Watts on drums. Or Keith Richards taking the low "E" string off his telecaster and tuning the remaining 5 strings to open "G" and making musical history.

But of course Barry was a promoter. So his job was marketing. So making what he does seem a lot more important than what the actual talent does is to be expected.

dig420 · 07-31-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Jagger
Plant
Morrison
Mercury
Waters

Can't go wrong with any of these.

Hell, some might even throw in Bon Scott, Steven Tyler, David Lee Roth, Paul Stanley and Geddy Lee to round out the top 10. Arguable of course.

I would add in Brad Delp to the list. Not saying he's #1 mind you, just that the guy was utterly fantastic and deserves a mention. Same with Steve Perry of Journey for that matter.

There are no "larger than life" front men in today's sea of crappola we call music. The likes of these legends will never come again. Today more people know Jusin Beiber's name than who the front man's name is of [ instert any current rock band ]

Such a shame.

Jack White is pretty larger than life.

mardigras · 08-01-2013, 01:22 AM

Last week a jock on a local morning show asked a girl on their panel who was known as the fab four and after getting her guesses over a half hour finally told her and she said, "Who?" I never felt older in my life

mardigras · 08-01-2013, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Keith Richards taking the low "E" string off his telecaster and tuning the remaining 5 strings.

Perhaps he inspired my guitar hero in '79

facialfreak · 08-01-2013, 03:58 AM

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ManicaMark · 08-01-2013, 05:54 AM

I saw The Stones in Barcelona a few years back at it was the best concert I have ever been to.
Also did you know: More people have seen Mick Jagger in real life, than an any other person on the planet. Fact!

DamianJ · 08-01-2013, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Keith Richards taking the low "E" string off his telecaster and tuning the remaining 5 strings to open "G" and making musical history.

Aside from the fact that open guitar tunings have been around long before Richards. Dobros and banjos use them and lutes were all open tuned, even to the extent of having movable frets. Open tuning was used in India 1000s of years ago. Then Mexico, Hawaii etc.

So, although wildly great, Richards certainly didn't make musical history using slack tuning as it is popularly known.

CDSmith · 08-01-2013, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dig420

Jack White is pretty larger than life.

Not in a Plant/Jagger/Morrison/Mercury kind of way, but I suppose that's the best we can do nowadays.

Very accomplished guitarist though. I see he's #70 on RS's top 100 of all time.

Herb Kornfield · 08-01-2013, 08:12 AM

Personally, I would put Robert Plant ahead of Jagger.

The stones are awesome but really, Led Zeppelin will always be the king of the game.

Robbie · 08-01-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Aside from the fact that open guitar tunings have been around long before Richards. Dobros and banjos use them and lutes were all open tuned, even to the extent of having movable frets. Open tuning was used in India 1000s of years ago. Then Mexico, Hawaii etc.

So, although wildly great, Richards certainly didn't make musical history using slack tuning as it is popularly known.

He made musical history by the songs he wrote using the technique. Not the technique itself. Just like lots of guitarist used "tapping" (most notably Harvey Mandel) long before Eddie Van Halen...but it was Van Halen who took the technique and made "musical history" with it.

That's what I was trying to show.

"Keef" took open tuning to a whole different place than it had been before and the results were songs that have endured: "Honky Tonk Women", "Jumping Jack Flash", "Brown Sugar", "Tumbling Dice"....basically the entire "Beggars Banquet", "Sticky Fingers" and "Exile On Mainstreet" albums where he completely retooled the old "1960's" Stones and took them to rock legend status.

Robbie · 08-01-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Herb Kornfield

Personally, I would put Robert Plant ahead of Jagger.

The stones are awesome but really, Led Zeppelin will always be the king of the game.

I'm just so disappointed that Plant won't rejoin Zep for a world tour.

Really sucks for us fans.

Rand · 08-01-2013, 11:10 AM

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I'm just so disappointed that Plant won't rejoin Zep for a world tour.

Really sucks for us fans.

Agreed. The closest we'll probably get to that is the DVD release of "Celebration Day."

From Wiki:
The Ahmet Ertegun Tribute Concert was a benefit concert held in memory of music executive Ahmet Ertegün at The O2 Arena in London on December 10, 2007. The headline act was the English rock band, Led Zeppelin, who performed their first full-length concert since the death of drummer John Bonham in 1980, in a one-off reunion. Bonham's son Jason Bonham played drums during the band's set, and also provided backing vocals on two songs.

According to Guinness World Records 2009, the concert holds the world record for the "Highest Demand for Tickets for One Music Concert" as 20 million requests for the reunion show were rendered online.

Put your headphones on. See if you can play this loud enough.

PS - I was fortunate to see Plant at The Shrine about a month ago. 4th row center stage. GREAT show.

Robbie · 08-01-2013, 11:16 AM

That is an AWESOME live vid of the song "Kashmir"

It's amazing how much better bands like Zep and the Stones sound now that they are waiting until AFTER the show to get fucked up. The difference between that and footage from "The Song Remains The Same" movie is night and day.

That sounds so damn good. I just hope he doesn't keep screwing around until he or Page end up dying and we never get a chance to see them live again.

Rand · 08-01-2013, 11:20 AM

Whoever posted that cut off the end of the song. Asshole.

So, I changed the link to the full show. Enjoy.

(And yes, that taping of Kashmir is the best EVER)

Here is a link to the complete song.

CDSmith · 08-02-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rand

Whoever posted that cut off the end of the song. Asshole.

So, I changed the link to the full show. Enjoy.

(And yes, that taping of Kashmir is the best EVER)

Here is a link to the complete song.

That's an incredible vid. The others are right, they're sounding better than ever before there.

Awesome.

Once that kind of greatness is gone, I fear it will be gone for good, as nothing in the music scene from the last 15 years even comes close to the likes of zep, stones, beatles, floyd, etc. Most of the crap that wins grammies these days isn't even in the same universe as those.

Mutt · 08-02-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

Last week a jock on a local morning show asked a girl on their panel who was known as the fab four and after getting her guesses over a half hour finally told her and she said, "Who?" I never felt older in my life

i asked a 19 year old the other day on MyFreeCams to name the members of the Beatles and she did correctly. lots of today's kids like and know classic rock. of course lots don't.

i just can't imagine these kids in 20 years reminiscing about what they're listening to today.

lagwagon · 08-02-2013, 09:14 PM

I have a submission.

Greg Graffin Ph.D and frontman of Bad Religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Graffin

escorpio · 08-03-2013, 09:43 AM

Jim Dandy of Black Oak Arkansas.

Shit yeah.

Robbie · 08-03-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

i asked a 19 year old the other day on MyFreeCams to name the members of the Beatles and she did correctly. lots of today's kids like and know classic rock. of course lots don't.

Yep, thanks to "Guitar Hero" my teenage daughter knows all the classic rock bands.

And thanks to the movie "Across The Universe" that came out a couple of years back, she and all her friends know about and love The Beatles.

Those "Guitar Hero" and "Rock Band" video games turned millions of teenage kids onto classic rock music. And they all love it. Listening to these highschool kids talk about those great songs and discussing how the new bands aren't as good really shows me that it's not me being "old" or "not getting it".

When 16 year olds in highschool are saying the same thing as I am...then it's not just a generation gap...the truth is that most of the stuff out today is contrived and calculated. It's pure crap.

And when these young kids hear music that was actually made and produced by bands like the Stones, they recognize the difference and hear the freedom in the music.

I can't even imagine a pop band just laying down a groove on a record and letting it roll for 3 or 4 minutes of jamming in 2013 like The Stones did, or Zeppelin did on their albums. And I'm not talking about any of you guys giving me some example of an obscure band with an album that sold a couple hundred copies.

I'm talking about albums by The Stones and Zep and others of that period that were number one albums and sold millions.

Todays homogenized music scene won't allow an artist to stretch out like bands used to.

Rand · 08-05-2013, 08:56 AM

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That's an incredible vid. The others are right, they're sounding better than ever before there.

Awesome.

Once that kind of greatness is gone, I fear it will be gone for good, as nothing in the music scene from the last 15 years even comes close to the likes of zep, stones, beatles, floyd, etc. Most of the crap that wins grammies these days isn't even in the same universe as those.

I completely agree. I'm really happy with the era of music I grew up with.

For today's musicians, there is at least one group that I think has the potential to stand out. I've really liked their studio albums, but seeing them live is what sealed the deal for me. It may sound strange unless you've given them a chance, but MGMT (imo) is the closest thing today's music offers us that even attempts to revive the musicianship of the previous greats.

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