JFK - Big week for conspiracy theorists

[Minte]

I heard one last night on television I hadn't heard.

That the head shot that killed JFK was an accidental shot from the AR15 of a secret service agent in the car behind. The main point was the type of bullet that created the massive head wound was not what would've been typical from the weapon Oswald used. That it was a frangible(sp?) round that was being used by the secret service.

So you don't have to look that word up..it's a round that explodes on impact rather than just making a hole, like the first round that hit Kennedy did.

[Mediamix]

OH GOD... Here we go again...

[Harmon]

in before wehateporn

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Mediamix

OH GOD... Here we go again...

50th anniversary. It was bound to come up..

[tony286]

We will never know actually what happened. I dont think Oswald did it by himself.

[Minte]

http://www.hngn.com/articles/8845/20...lleges-new.htm

The author of a book about this theory was who I saw on tv.

Officially, I think Oswald did it alone.

[SilentKnight]

Too much time has passed - too many key players are dead.

I don't think the truth will ever be revealed.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by tony286

We will never know actually what happened. I dont think Oswald did it by himself.

[Harmon]

Many years ago when I was in a drug/alcohol rehab somebody was caught taking a Twinkie from the area where we ate. Said Twinkie was found in the room across the hall where I was sleeping. It was found at about (give or take, from what I remember) about 2-3am. I was groggy as fuck.

What I do remember? I remember waking up and hearing the night nurses (who happened to be of both genders) arguing in a nonchalant fashion with some bitch that was coming down hard off of being a Xanax addict.

I guess they found it under her bed or something. The male nurse asked her if she did it. She was adamantly denying it over and over until he said, "STOP! OK, it wasn't you... it was the third Twinkie man on the grassy knoll..."

End of story.

Carry on.

[Minte]

Vincent Bugliosi who is 100% Oswald did it alone was on the same show and he had a good point. If it were a hit..wouldn't there have been a car ready to take Oswald away quickly? Instead, Oswald walks around the city, shoots a cop and then pulls that same gun on the officers that arrested him at the theater.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Minte

Vincent Bugliosi who is 100% Oswald did it alone was on the same show and he had a good point. If it were a hit..wouldn't there have been a car ready to take Oswald away quickly? Instead, Oswald walks around the city, shoots a cop and then pulls that same gun on the officers that arrested him at the theater.

Well, he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed to begin with. He was kind of like a walking conspiracy theory within himself in my opinion. Always paranoid, thinking that people, the world, the government etc. was out to get him.

Maybe he just planned it shitty. People do that everyday in bank robberies, home invasions, etc. Fuck, they even plan shit poorly when they choose what stock to buy or what whore to marry.

[tony286]

http://22november1963.org.uk/lee-har...n-sharpshooter

Simulating the JFK Assassination
For the benefit of the Warren Commission, expert riflemen from the US Army and the FBI attempted to duplicate the assassin’s task, using the rifle that had been discovered on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
Even after fixing some of the gun’s mechanical problems, and despite firing at stationary targets from an easier vantage point, they failed to achieve the combination of accuracy and speed demanded of the lone gunman: two hits out of three, within about six seconds (see Warren Commission Hearings, vol.3, p.446 and pp.403–10).


The read the rest of the page from that link. its really interesting. He didn't do it alone.

[Best-In-BC]

Originally Posted by Mediamix

OH GOD... Here we go again...

If you were moronic enough to believe the story your ovously a idiot .

[Best-In-BC]

Originally Posted by Harmon

Well, he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed to begin with. He was kind of like a walking conspiracy theory within himself in my opinion. Always paranoid, thinking that people, the world, the government etc. was out to get him.

They were you fucking tool, CIA was working against him.

[Sly]

It's always fun when a civil conversation turns into a name-calling fest with poor grammar and spelling.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

They were you fucking tool, CIA was working against him.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Minte

I heard one last night on television I hadn't heard.

That the head shot that killed JFK was an accidental shot from the AR15 of a secret service agent in the car behind. The main point was the type of bullet that created the massive head wound was not what would've been typical from the weapon Oswald used. That it was a frangible(sp?) round that was being used by the secret service.

So you don't have to look that word up..it's a round that explodes on impact rather than just making a hole, like the first round that hit Kennedy did.

I've been telling people this for years, even here on GFY....

It's very simple - Oswald fired a shot or two, missed, but when the Secret Service responded by pulling out their firearms... One fired by accident hitting JFK from behind. The cover up was that the Secret Service completely fucked up and killed the man they were supposed to protect.

I said it here on GFY multiple times:
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=8728901&postcount=11

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I've been telling people this for years, even here on GFY....

It's very simple - Oswald fired a shot or two, missed, but when the Secret Service responded by pulling out their firearms... One fired by accident hitting JFK from behind. The cover up was that the Secret Service completely fucked up and killed the man they were supposed to protect.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand welcome to the no fly l|$t

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Minte

I heard one last night on television I hadn't heard.

That the head shot that killed JFK was an accidental shot from the AR15 of a secret service agent in the car behind. The main point was the type of bullet that created the massive head wound was not what would've been typical from the weapon Oswald used. That it was a frangible(sp?) round that was being used by the secret service.

So you don't have to look that word up..it's a round that explodes on impact rather than just making a hole, like the first round that hit Kennedy did.

Originally Posted by Rochard

I've been telling people this for years, even here on GFY....

It's very simple - Oswald fired a shot or two, missed, but when the Secret Service responded by pulling out their firearms... One fired by accident hitting JFK from behind. The cover up was that the Secret Service completely fucked up and killed the man they were supposed to protect.

I said it here on GFY multiple times:
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=8728901&postcount=11

I've never heard that theory before. Really could explain additional shots.

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[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I've never heard that theory before. Really could explain additional shots.

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additional all bullseye shots?

right

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

additional all bullseye shots?

right

Have you ever seen Pulp Fiction? The scene in the Nova? Happens bro

She'll be home soon...

[wehateporn]

The controlled media want us to argue over which CIA-asset shot him, rather than why the Banker's arranged for his elimination in the first place. It's very easy to see the reasons why the Bankers killed JFK

[Paul]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

The controlled media want us to argue over which CIA-asset shot him, rather than why the Banker's arranged for his elimination in the first place. It's very easy to see the reasons why the Bankers killed JFK

I know I'm going to regret asking this...

Why?

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Paul

I know I'm going to regret asking this...

Why?

[crockett]

Ok.. Just for the sake of argument.. If indeed a SS guy accidentally shot his m16 from the car behind.. Logically the bullet would have gone through the windshield of that car.. There wasn't any cars running around with shot out windshields that I recall..

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

The controlled media want us to argue over which CIA-asset shot him, rather than why the Banker's arranged for his elimination in the first place. It's very easy to see the reasons why the Bankers killed JFK

Originally Posted by Paul

I know I'm going to regret asking this...

Why?

ADG

[Mutt]

Of all the semi plausible theories the one that is hardest for people to accept is Oswald working alone, they want to believe that a sinister network deep inside the highest places murdered their young idealistic leader.

Oswald acted alone, that there wasn't one credible detailed deathbed confession from anybody inside the conspiracy to me confirms it.

[Robbie]

WTF??? Somebody shot JFK???

What will happen to FUBAR now, and who will take pics at Internext???

[fitzmulti]

Who needs the Warren Commission Report, when we have all of you guys here on GFY 50 years later?

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Of all the semi plausible theories the one that is hardest for people to accept is Oswald working alone, they want to believe that a sinister network deep inside the highest places murdered their young idealistic leader.

Oswald acted alone, that there wasn't one credible detailed deathbed confession from anybody inside the conspiracy to me confirms it.

You apparently have not seen this new enhanced JFK assassination video, which reveals the identity of the real shooter:





ADG

[seeandsee]

who can prove that shit now

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Harmon

Well, he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed to begin with. He was kind of like a walking conspiracy theory within himself in my opinion. Always paranoid, thinking that people, the world, the government etc. was out to get him.

Maybe he just planned it shitty. People do that everyday in bank robberies, home invasions, etc. Fuck, they even plan shit poorly when they choose what stock to buy or what whore to marry.

Taking the Bugliosi comment a little further.
If it had been the Mafia,CIA,Cuban Government or any large well organized group behind the killing they would've had it planned a little better. I would see that escape car to quickly ferret Oswald away..or more likely kill him.

[$5 submissions]

The Mafia theory seems to have legs. Mob prosecutions and inquiries did go down once RFK left the admin.

[2MuchMark]

I started to really get into conspiracy theories when the movie JFK came out and for a while they all seemed really interesting until I figured out that it is just bullshit made-up answers because real answers to real questions just can't be found.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crockett

Ok.. Just for the sake of argument.. If indeed a SS guy accidentally shot his m16 from the car behind.. Logically the bullet would have gone through the windshield of that car.. There wasn't any cars running around with shot out windshields that I recall..

I believe some of the agents were outside of cars standing on running boards.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by **********

I started to really get into conspiracy theories when the movie JFK came out and for a while they all seemed really interesting until I figured out that it is just bullshit made-up answers because real answers to real questions just can't be found.

As with any widely witnessed and over analyzed event, you will always have more questions than answers. It's like a car accident witnesses by ten people from seven different angles - you'll walk away with three or four very different versions of what happened.

It's just like the magic bullet - is it possible it did all of things it did? Sure? Highly unlikely and hard to believe, but anything is possible.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Rochard

As with any widely witnessed and over analyzed event, you will always have more questions than answers. It's like a car accident witnesses by ten people from seven different angles - you'll walk away with three or four very different versions of what happened.

It's just like the magic bullet - is it possible it did all of things it did? Sure? Highly unlikely and hard to believe, but anything is possible.

Agent George Hickey is the one that was suspected of the shot.

[wehateporn]

Chomsky on JFK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQjYoTyUIuc&t=33m22s

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Minte

..or more likely kill him.

hummmmm.........

[Minte]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

hummmmm.........

I'm sure that if the mafia was behind it.. they'd set it up for Oswald to shoot the president and then give him $20 bucks to go catch a movie.

[420]

NOVA recently aired a program about it. They ran some forensic tests that were interesting. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/cold-case-jfk.html

[Minte]

Originally Posted by 420

NOVA recently aired a program about it. They ran some forensic tests that were interesting. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/cold-case-jfk.html

I had that recorded on my DVR and watched it last night. Not much new information. But the way they tested the rifle Oswald used was much better than anything I had seen before. There was no doubt that the *magic bullet* was very probable. Also the explanation about why JFK's head went opposite the direction of the bullet entrance was interesting. I had not heard that before.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Minte

I had that recorded on my DVR and watched it last night. Not much new information. But the way they tested the rifle Oswald used was much better than anything I had seen before. There was no doubt that the *magic bullet* was very probable. Also the explanation about why JFK's head went opposite the direction of the bullet entrance was interesting. I had not heard that before.

It would also clear up the 'exploding bullet' thing as well. Those long range shots make a mess of anyone, add in the fact that a brain is about the same as any substance under pressure and you have a typical result. At close range the bullet doesn't get the chance to expand unless it is specifically designed that away.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

"A man may die, nations may rise and fall, but an idea lives on." - JFK



ADG

[wehateporn]

Bill Hicks dead at 32...hmmm

[BFT3K]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NZKjm9ezTXQ

[JFK]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Too much time has passed - too many key players are dead.

I don't think the truth will ever be revealed.

yup, not in our lifetime

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Robbie

WTF??? Somebody shot JFK???

What will happen to FUBAR now, and who will take pics at Internext???

I will be magically resurected after 3 days

[TNVeric]

It wasn't the "bankers" or the mafia, or the cia, or castro, or the soviets.

All those mentioned had way too much to lose by getting caught. The price would have been enormous and there was no clear way to pull something like that with 100% certainty that everyone involved would keep quiet.

Now here is what I can relate to.. It is documented that just before arriving at the Dallas police station, Jack Ruby went to a western union office to wire one of his showgirls some cash. I have used western union numerous times to wire money to my models and I can tell you it is not a quick process today, so for certain it was even slower 50 years ago. So there is NO WAY Jack Ruby on his way to an EXTREMELY CRITICAL function to silence the "patsy" Oswald, would stop at western union. That is perhaps the most implausible part of the whole theory.

[oppoten]

Originally Posted by TNVeric

All those mentioned had way too much to lose by getting caught.

Even the ones that were above the law, and remain so?