Taking a moment to vent... - GoFuckYourself.com

kaylacam · 03-03-2003, 11:09 PM

Ok, so last Wednesday, while everyone else was depositing their CCBill checks with glee...I was wondering where mine was. I called CCBill Friday and got a machine, so I called back today. They say they SENT a check out, but it may have gotten lost in the mail, so I asked if they could put a stop payment on it and add it to THIS weeks check. They let me know that I have to wait TEN BUSINESS DAYS before they will even look in to it, THEN they can start the process of putting a stop-payment on it and issuing me a new one. GAH! I am already behind on my hosting bill by a month...or... more

because I had gotten shorted for $2000 by You-Know-Who in January! GAH! Am I NEVER going to catch up completely?! I am so depressed over this! Every time I THINK I am catching up, another 'surprise' pops up for me!

Oh, and my DISHWASHER broke today, too! Estimated repair time? TEN BUSINESS DAYS! ARGH! WTF is with "ten business days"?!

killkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillki llkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkill kill

Ok, that is all my rant for NOW, but I reserve the right to RE-rant later!

corvette · 03-03-2003, 11:20 PM

kayla,

One of the reasons that we put that policy in place is because we discovered that in many cases when a check didn't arrive at the clients mailing address on the ?normal? day, it were just delayed a few days or got sent back to us.

Most checks get to the clients; sometimes they get delayed for a bit. We found that in a lot of cases, we would stop payment on the check, only to have the customer call the next day and tell us that they had gotten the check and to remove the stop payment, which by that it time was too late

It is actually my policy, but it is not set in stone

send me an email request and ill take care of it

[email protected]

kaylacam · 03-03-2003, 11:23 PM

Thanks, will do...I am irritable, my host is leaning on me and I am stressing out!

DyannaDoes · 03-03-2003, 11:46 PM

Kayla,

If this is you, and not your webmaster . . . first, sorry you are stressed out.

I've seen you post here before but this is the first time I looked at your site - you're attractive. If you've been on the internet with your own site that long, you should be worried about retirement by now, not worried about a monthly hosting bill. Unless of course you've had some sort of financial problems in the past

What I mean to say is that you should be very wealthy by now.

I suspect that it is a mix of both not enough traffic and some problems with your tour, but something is wrong. If you'd like some suggestions let me know and I'll shoot you an email

If this is not you, but the guy running your site . . . dude, get another profession.

kaylacam · 03-04-2003, 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by DyannaDoes
Kayla,

If this is you, and not your webmaster . . . first, sorry you are stressed out.

I've seen you post here before but this is the first time I looked at your site - you're attractive. If you've been on the internet with your own site that long, you should be worried about retirement by now, not worried about a monthly hosting bill. Unless of course you've had some sort of financial problems in the past

What I mean to say is that you should be very wealthy by now.

I suspect that it is a mix of both not enough traffic and some problems with your tour, but something is wrong. If you'd like some suggestions let me know and I'll shoot you an email

If this is not you, but the guy running your site . . . dude, get another profession.

HAHAHAHAHAHA! I *AM* my webmaster! Which, I think is PART of the problem...I write what appeals to me, not necessarily what appeals to MEN...since I am clueless there...I have had a few MAJOR financial issues in the past 12 months and, I am a SMALL site...like 100 members give or take a dozen. LOL

asuna · 03-04-2003, 12:03 AM

Wish I can help you out sweet cheeks! but I already spent all my money

kaylacam · 03-04-2003, 12:06 AM

LOL
Thanks, but I do not want anyone's money!
Advice, marketing lessons, SURE!
But I am one of those, "Give me a fish, I eat tonight, TEACH me to fish, I eat for life" kinda gals...I know, I know...no clue how *I* ended up a cam girl!

*sigh*
heh

asuna · 03-04-2003, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaylacam
LOL
Thanks, but I do not want anyone's money!
Advice, marketing lessons, SURE!
But I am one of those, "Give me a fish, I eat tonight, TEACH me to fish, I eat for life" kinda gals...I know, I know...no clue how *I* ended up a cam girl!

*sigh*
heh

my login expired... tech guy fixed ur site yet?

kaylacam · 03-04-2003, 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by asuna

my login expired... tech guy fixed ur site yet?

I have not talked to the guy about the new software yet...as soon as I hear from him, I will get you back in there...just SWAMPED at the moment. Took a side-gig to earn a few extra bucks

asuna · 03-04-2003, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaylacam

I have not talked to the guy about the new software yet...as soon as I hear from him, I will get you back in there...just SWAMPED at the moment. Took a side-gig to earn a few extra bucks

wich is?
btw u said u didnt wanna take anyones money, ur a 'give me a fish' etc. kinda girl, but u sad ur check didnt come, it didnt mean u didnt MAKE money.. lol

ronin · 03-04-2003, 12:11 AM

SpaceAce · 03-04-2003, 12:11 AM

Some friendly advice:

Consider getting a redesign done for your front page and tour. Personally, I find that sort of dark color scheme and fuzzy button work unappealing. It looks slightly unfriendly, really, which is one thing a personal site shouldn't be

Also, don't open popups on people until they've closed your site. If someone clicks to take your tour, you should leave them in peace until they try to leave the site.

SpaceAce

SpaceAce · 03-04-2003, 12:12 AM

OK, it's worse than I thought. Every single page hits me with a popup. I was going to look through and give you a man's perspective but your popups drove me away.

SpaceAce

kaylacam · 03-04-2003, 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce
OK, it's worse than I thought. Every single page hits me with a popup. I was going to look through and give you a man's perspective but your popups drove me away.

SpaceAce

Those are new...*sigh* I managed to stay pop-up free until last week.

I feel like I am SO stuck in the past, like i have not stayed current. As soon as I finish this project (or call it quits for the night), they will be history again.

I hate them too, they have made me stop going thru my own site and start typing in the EXACT URL that I want.

I am SO frustrated!

DyannaDoes · 03-04-2003, 12:19 AM

you've got mail.

SpaceAce is right - both the pops and the overall "feel" are off.

We'll get ya there

sextoyking · 03-04-2003, 12:20 AM

Hi Kayla,

I checked out your site. Looks good, nice pics and all, but I tend to agree it might need a new look and or a face lift.

mabey we can work something out on a new design.

Thanks

Todd Ostrer

webinc.com

kaylacam · 03-04-2003, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
Hi Kayla,

I checked out your site. Looks good, nice pics and all, but I tend to agree it might need a new look and or a face lift.

mabey we can work something out on a new design.

Thanks

Todd Ostrer

webinc.com

Thanks, I just really cannot afford to have a site commissioned for me right now....

DyannaDoes...you have email!

sextoyking · 03-04-2003, 12:34 AM

Hi Kayla,

I wasn't asking for money

If you have an idea what you would like your site too look like, or someone that can help you with that, I will have our design team do it for you for free. if you have the idea, info. Our team can make it convert

I have been around since 1994, and know that we all need a helping hand sometime.

email me:

[email protected]

thanks

todd

kaylacam · 03-04-2003, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
Hi Kayla,

I wasn't asking for money

If you have an idea what you would like your site too look like, or someone that can help you with that, I will have our design team do it for you for free. if you have the idea, info. Our team can make it convert

I have been around since 1994, and know that we all need a helping hand sometime.

email me:

[email protected]

thanks

todd

Oh my GOD! That is so awesome of you! I don't know what to say other than...OK!

Hit me up on ICQ? 52175714 ?
I will email you as well!

SpaceAce · 03-04-2003, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaylacam

Those are new...*sigh* I managed to stay pop-up free until last week.

I feel like I am SO stuck in the past, like i have not stayed current. As soon as I finish this project (or call it quits for the night), they will be history again.

I hate them too, they have made me stop going thru my own site and start typing in the EXACT URL that I want.

I am SO frustrated!

If it's got you avoiding your own pages, it's bad.

You can keep a popup or two, but you should only have them hit people who are leaving the site. So, any link that goes to another page on your site should not open a popup. It's pretty easy to do. I, or a lot of other people here, can help you out with that if you're not familiar with hahahahahahahahahaha,

Sigh, hahahaha = J a v a s c r i p t.

Come on, J a v a s c r i p t is banned? At least ban it with the less-than, greater-than symbols around it so we can type it in messages.

SpaceAce

EscortBiz · 03-04-2003, 12:56 AM

The dishwasher and the estimate thing reminded me of a new reality site, can ya guess?

On a serious note I think youll catch up one day

baddog · 03-04-2003, 12:59 AM

kaylacam . . . . not to change the subject, but did you see my question about your Michael Parkes lithographs?

DyannaDoes · 03-04-2003, 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
The dishwasher and the estimate thing reminded me of a new reality site, can ya guess?

On a serious note I think youll catch up one day

The "poolboy" scene we did on my site was one of our most popular

Kayla, you've got more mail.

EscortBiz · 03-04-2003, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DyannaDoes

The "poolboy" scene we did on my site was one of our most popular

Kayla, you've got more mail.

what site are you reffering to?

kaylacam · 03-04-2003, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by baddog
kaylacam . . . . not to change the subject, but did you see my question about your Michael Parkes lithographs?

I have 4 Parkes prints...he taught at Pensacola JR College in the '70's...I went there in the '90's. I always thought that was fascinating...I LOVE Dragon Fly, it is the one with the mermaids...I also have Gargoyles, Circus Memories and The Juggler. The Juggler needs to be reframed, the plexi in front of it is broken...good thing I ducked or it would be my HEAD that was broken. Odd that the print did not get scratched!

DyannaDoes · 03-04-2003, 01:11 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

what site are you reffering to?

The one my ex-wife and I used to run -- hence the username DyannaDoes. We did pretty much the same thing Kayla is doing now, but the members loved the fantasy stuff more than anything else.

p00p · 03-04-2003, 01:17 AM

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Originally posted by DyannaDoes

The one my ex-wife and I used to run -- hence the username DyannaDoes. We did pretty much the same thing Kayla is doing now, but the members loved the fantasy stuff more than anything else.

What happened to this site? Did it make you rich? What site do you have now?

DyannaDoes · 03-04-2003, 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by p00p

What happened to this site? Did it make you rich? What site do you have now?

If you really want to know all of that, do a search here for this username or "horns" and one on PornCity's BBS for the username Dyanna or DyannaDoes. But I don't know if their archives go back to 2001 on PC.

You'd have to define "rich". Did we make more than WifeysWorld? No. Did we make more every month than the average American's yearly income. Very much true.

Kimmykim · 03-04-2003, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by p00p

What happened to this site? Did it make you rich? What site do you have now?

Nosey aren't we?

I'll be happy to vouch for DyannaDoes. I know the owners, the site and the history.

kaylacam · 03-04-2003, 01:39 AM

OK!

POP UP FREE as I USED to be!

DyannaDoes · 03-04-2003, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Nosey aren't we?

I'll be happy to vouch for DyannaDoes. I know the owners, the site and the history.

Kk, that's just 'cause I bought ya a few beers not too long ago

Did you get my email I sent to you a few days ago?

p00p · 03-04-2003, 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Nosey aren't we?

I'll be happy to vouch for DyannaDoes. I know the owners, the site and the history.

You had sexual intercourse with Brad Shaw. 'nuff said.

BluMedia · 03-04-2003, 01:47 AM

I have one thing to to say wire your money from CCBill into your account. Yeah it is extra but you don't have to worry about lost checks and all that bullshit.

Mark

kaylacam · 03-04-2003, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BluMedia
I have one thing to to say wire your money from CCBill into your account. Yeah it is extra but you don't have to worry about lost checks and all that bullshit.

Mark

Actually, it sort of worked out to my advantage that I had such a sh*tty day! LOL

I "met" Todd from http://www.webinc.com and got to look around thru their portfolio, they are going to help me out...I "met" DyannaDoes, from TX and they are a SWEET couple (exchaning emails)...and I FINALLY got to talk to EscortBiz on ICQ!

I am feeling MUCH better about things, guys and gals! You ROCK! I thinkI can sleep with OUT Prince Valium tonight!

p00p · 03-04-2003, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DyannaDoes

If you really want to know all of that, do a search here for this username or "horns" and one on PornCity's BBS for the username Dyanna or DyannaDoes. But I don't know if their archives go back to 2001 on PC.

You'd have to define "rich". Did we make more than WifeysWorld? No. Did we make more every month than the average American's yearly income. Very much true.

Wow, that sucks what happened to you. So if you made the average American's yearly income in a month, let's say it is $25k, that is over $300k a year. Couldn't you afford to fight it?
I know if what happened to you guys happened to us, I would get out of Dodge and take my sacks of money with me.

kaylacam · 03-04-2003, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

Wow, that sucks what happened to you. So if you made the average American's yearly income in a month, let's say it is $25k, that is over $300k a year. Couldn't you afford to fight it?
I know if what happened to you guys happened to us, I would get out of Dodge and take my sacks of money with me.

p00p, break it down for me! What happened? What did I miss?

stocktrader23 · 03-04-2003, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaylacam

Actually, it sort of worked out to my advantage that I had such a sh*tty day! LOL

I "met" Todd from http://www.webinc.com and got to look around thru their portfolio, they are going to help me out...I "met" DyannaDoes, from TX and they are a SWEET couple (exchaning emails)...and I FINALLY got to talk to EscortBiz on ICQ!

I am feeling MUCH better about things, guys and gals! You ROCK! I thinkI can sleep with OUT Prince Valium tonight!

Bad things aren't always bad.

kaylacam · 03-04-2003, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23

Bad things aren't always bad.

I agree!

Just that after a while of thinking, "All things happen for a reason"
it starts to sound like, "Anything can happen with a razor"

EDIT: That WAS a joke!
heh

p00p · 03-04-2003, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaylacam

p00p, break it down for me! What happened? What did I miss?

Hi Kayla, first of all I wish you well. I don't doubt you run your site and you seem like a hard worker. Good things will come, stick it out.

Anyways, very interesting read regarding dyannadoes.
This article may best explain it?
http://www.theadultwebmaster.com/art...erman_01.phtml
I remember hearing about it years ago, but never payed attention as it never did (and never will) affect me.

kaylacam · 03-04-2003, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

Hi Kayla, first of all I wish you well. I don't doubt you run your site and you seem like a hard worker. Good things will come, stick it out.

Anyways, very interesting read regarding dyannadoes.
This article may best explain it?
http://www.theadultwebmaster.com/art...erman_01.phtml
I remember hearing about it years ago, but never payed attention as it never did (and never will) affect me.

ahhhhhhh....w0w! I think I DO remember that!

Thanks for the compliments p00p! I am TRYING! ;)

DyannaDoes · 03-04-2003, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

Hi Kayla, first of all I wish you well. I don't doubt you run your site and you seem like a hard worker. Good things will come, stick it out.

Anyways, very interesting read regarding dyannadoes.
This article may best explain it?
http://www.theadultwebmaster.com/art...erman_01.phtml
I remember hearing about it years ago, but never payed attention as it never did (and never will) affect me.

That article deosn't actually reveal too much. Obviously, it was written during the middle of an ongoing ivestigation so it's not a "tell-all" sort of article.

The obscenity charges were the tough ones, but you're incorrect if you think it'll never happen to you . . . unless you aren't in the adult business. All of our content was in our member area, and none of it was anything other than "normal" hardcore stuff . . . plus a lot of our content wsan't even hardcore.

edit - the CHANCES that it will happen to you, at least so far if they don't step up prosecutons, is minute. But not out of the realm of possibility

Carrie · 03-04-2003, 07:43 AM

Todd, you're an absolute gem

Kayla - things WILL get better!

A few notes on your site (although this is kinda moot since Todd is going to redesign things for ya) - I like the rotating pics on the second page. I agree with the fuzzy buttons - they're hard to read and distracting.
Traffic leaks! The biggest thing I see about amateur sites is that they become an online amateur before they become an adult webmaster - and by doing so, they fall into the "common thought" trap that in order to be successful you have to have traffic leaking recips all over your tour. Not so! (You're also leaking hard-earned traffic that your affiliates are sending to you.)
Make mirrors of your pages and put the recips on *those* instead.

The idea behind this - you have worked hard for your traffic (or your affiliate has worked hard to send you traffic). The surfer coming to your front page is there because he is interested in YOU specifically - do NOT give him the choice of seeing some other amateur - or in the case of a search engine newbie porn surfer, even *knowing* that other amateurs exist!
You want their ONLY choices to be to continue going through your site and signup, or leave. Don't leak them away on the cool-looking "ASS Approved" button or any of the other typical amateur leaks.
These recips STEAL your traffic!

Make a mirror of your site in another folder, and use IT for all of the recips. Anyone coming *from* one of these recips already knows that there are other amateurs out there and he is browsing the buffet table to find one he likes. If he hits your site and you're not the type of girl he's looking for tonight, then he will actually LOOK for those recips to go back into the menu and try to find another girl... in which case you can trade him for another surfer who might come to check you out and fall in love.

If a surfer comes straight to your site, grab him by the balls and don't let go. Give him no choice but to focus on YOU - not some cool-looking graphics that promise hundreds of amateurs to choose from.
You're running a paysite, not a free traffic pump. If you must, pop a recip page on the surfer *after* he has decided not to join your site and not accepted your last-chance offer - but ONLY after he's absolutely certain he's leaving!
Be fair to yourself and fair to your affiliates - make a clean tour.
See what I'm saying?

baddog · 03-04-2003, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaylacam

I have 4 Parkes prints...he taught at Pensacola JR College in the '70's...I went there in the '90's. I always thought that was fascinating...I LOVE Dragon Fly, it is the one with the mermaids...I also have Gargoyles, Circus Memories and The Juggler. The Juggler needs to be reframed, the plexi in front of it is broken...good thing I ducked or it would be my HEAD that was broken. Odd that the print did not get scratched!

so, you have originals, and not just reprints?

The reason I ask is one of my girlfriends works for one of the only authorized dealers. When I told her that I had read your earlier thread where Parkes was mentioned she wanted me to find out if you were interested in either selling them, or buying more.

Feel free to hit me on ICQ 16075497 if interested in either proposition.

RockDaddy · 03-04-2003, 12:47 PM

Quote:

I have been around since 1994, and know that we all need a helping hand sometime.

Very cool !

And very cool of DyannaDoes also!

kaylacam · 03-04-2003, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie
Todd, you're an absolute gem

Kayla - things WILL get better!

A few notes on your site (although this is kinda moot since Todd is going to redesign things for ya) - I like the rotating pics on the second page. I agree with the fuzzy buttons - they're hard to read and distracting.
Traffic leaks! The biggest thing I see about amateur sites is that they become an online amateur before they become an adult webmaster - and by doing so, they fall into the "common thought" trap that in order to be successful you have to have traffic leaking recips all over your tour. Not so! (You're also leaking hard-earned traffic that your affiliates are sending to you.)
Make mirrors of your pages and put the recips on *those* instead.

The idea behind this - you have worked hard for your traffic (or your affiliate has worked hard to send you traffic). The surfer coming to your front page is there because he is interested in YOU specifically - do NOT give him the choice of seeing some other amateur - or in the case of a search engine newbie porn surfer, even *knowing* that other amateurs exist!
You want their ONLY choices to be to continue going through your site and signup, or leave. Don't leak them away on the cool-looking "ASS Approved" button or any of the other typical amateur leaks.
These recips STEAL your traffic!

Make a mirror of your site in another folder, and use IT for all of the recips. Anyone coming *from* one of these recips already knows that there are other amateurs out there and he is browsing the buffet table to find one he likes. If he hits your site and you're not the type of girl he's looking for tonight, then he will actually LOOK for those recips to go back into the menu and try to find another girl... in which case you can trade him for another surfer who might come to check you out and fall in love.

If a surfer comes straight to your site, grab him by the balls and don't let go. Give him no choice but to focus on YOU - not some cool-looking graphics that promise hundreds of amateurs to choose from.
You're running a paysite, not a free traffic pump. If you must, pop a recip page on the surfer *after* he has decided not to join your site and not accepted your last-chance offer - but ONLY after he's absolutely certain he's leaving!
Be fair to yourself and fair to your affiliates - make a clean tour.
See what I'm saying?

OY! LOTSA work! LOL

Thank you for the info, Carrie, I WILL take it to heart! I thought I was being clever making the "ASS APPROVED" button go straight to my review

LOL

sextoyking · 03-04-2003, 01:51 PM

(blush) Thanks Carrie

Our design team will take real good care of Kayla

03-03-2003, 11:09 PM	#1
kaylacam Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Less camgirl than porn chickie...conveniently located in Porn Central. Posts: 2,745	Taking a moment to vent... Ok, so last Wednesday, while everyone else was depositing their CCBill checks with glee...I was wondering where mine was. I called CCBill Friday and got a machine, so I called back today. They say they SENT a check out, but it may have gotten lost in the mail, so I asked if they could put a stop payment on it and add it to THIS weeks check. They let me know that I have to wait TEN BUSINESS DAYS before they will even look in to it, THEN they can start the process of putting a stop-payment on it and issuing me a new one. GAH! I am already behind on my hosting bill by a month...or... more because I had gotten shorted for $2000 by You-Know-Who in January! GAH! Am I NEVER going to catch up completely?! I am so depressed over this! Every time I THINK I am catching up, another 'surprise' pops up for me! Oh, and my DISHWASHER broke today, too! Estimated repair time? TEN BUSINESS DAYS! ARGH! WTF is with "ten business days"?! killkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillki llkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkill kill Ok, that is all my rant for NOW, but I reserve the right to RE-rant later! __________________ SPANK! Kayla Quinn http://www.TushyCash.com

03-03-2003, 11:20 PM	#2
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	kayla, One of the reasons that we put that policy in place is because we discovered that in many cases when a check didn't arrive at the clients mailing address on the ?normal? day, it were just delayed a few days or got sent back to us. Most checks get to the clients; sometimes they get delayed for a bit. We found that in a lot of cases, we would stop payment on the check, only to have the customer call the next day and tell us that they had gotten the check and to remove the stop payment, which by that it time was too late It is actually my policy, but it is not set in stone send me an email request and ill take care of it [email protected] __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

03-03-2003, 11:23 PM	#3
kaylacam Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Less camgirl than porn chickie...conveniently located in Porn Central. Posts: 2,745	Thanks, will do...I am irritable, my host is leaning on me and I am stressing out! __________________ SPANK! Kayla Quinn http://www.TushyCash.com

03-03-2003, 11:46 PM	#4
DyannaDoes Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 212	Kayla, If this is you, and not your webmaster . . . first, sorry you are stressed out. I've seen you post here before but this is the first time I looked at your site - you're attractive. If you've been on the internet with your own site that long, you should be worried about retirement by now, not worried about a monthly hosting bill. Unless of course you've had some sort of financial problems in the past What I mean to say is that you should be very wealthy by now. I suspect that it is a mix of both not enough traffic and some problems with your tour, but something is wrong. If you'd like some suggestions let me know and I'll shoot you an email If this is not you, but the guy running your site . . . dude, get another profession. __________________ "Profanity is the inevitable linguistic crutch of the inarticulate motherfucker."

03-04-2003, 12:03 AM	#6
asuna Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,743	Wish I can help you out sweet cheeks! but I already spent all my money __________________

03-04-2003, 12:06 AM	#7
kaylacam Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Less camgirl than porn chickie...conveniently located in Porn Central. Posts: 2,745	LOL Thanks, but I do not want anyone's money! Advice, marketing lessons, SURE! But I am one of those, "Give me a fish, I eat tonight, TEACH me to fish, I eat for life" kinda gals...I know, I know...no clue how I ended up a cam girl! sigh heh __________________ SPANK! Kayla Quinn http://www.TushyCash.com

03-04-2003, 12:11 AM	#11
ronin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Main St. Posts: 1,300	LOL

03-04-2003, 12:11 AM	#12
SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	Some friendly advice: Consider getting a redesign done for your front page and tour. Personally, I find that sort of dark color scheme and fuzzy button work unappealing. It looks slightly unfriendly, really, which is one thing a personal site shouldn't be Also, don't open popups on people until they've closed your site. If someone clicks to take your tour, you should leave them in peace until they try to leave the site. SpaceAce

03-04-2003, 12:12 AM	#13
SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	OK, it's worse than I thought. Every single page hits me with a popup. I was going to look through and give you a man's perspective but your popups drove me away. SpaceAce

03-04-2003, 12:19 AM	#15
DyannaDoes Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 212	you've got mail. SpaceAce is right - both the pops and the overall "feel" are off. We'll get ya there __________________ "Profanity is the inevitable linguistic crutch of the inarticulate motherfucker."

03-04-2003, 12:20 AM	#16
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Hi Kayla, I checked out your site. Looks good, nice pics and all, but I tend to agree it might need a new look and or a face lift. mabey we can work something out on a new design. Thanks Todd Ostrer webinc.com __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

03-04-2003, 12:34 AM	#18
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03-04-2003, 12:59 AM	#22
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03-04-2003, 01:39 AM	#30
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03-04-2003, 01:47 AM	#33
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03-04-2003, 07:43 AM	#42
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	Todd, you're an absolute gem Kayla - things WILL get better! A few notes on your site (although this is kinda moot since Todd is going to redesign things for ya) - I like the rotating pics on the second page. I agree with the fuzzy buttons - they're hard to read and distracting. Traffic leaks! The biggest thing I see about amateur sites is that they become an online amateur before they become an adult webmaster - and by doing so, they fall into the "common thought" trap that in order to be successful you have to have traffic leaking recips all over your tour. Not so! (You're also leaking hard-earned traffic that your affiliates are sending to you.) Make mirrors of your pages and put the recips on those instead. The idea behind this - you have worked hard for your traffic (or your affiliate has worked hard to send you traffic). The surfer coming to your front page is there because he is interested in YOU specifically - do NOT give him the choice of seeing some other amateur - or in the case of a search engine newbie porn surfer, even knowing that other amateurs exist! You want their ONLY choices to be to continue going through your site and signup, or leave. Don't leak them away on the cool-looking "ASS Approved" button or any of the other typical amateur leaks. These recips STEAL your traffic! Make a mirror of your site in another folder, and use IT for all of the recips. Anyone coming from one of these recips already knows that there are other amateurs out there and he is browsing the buffet table to find one he likes. If he hits your site and you're not the type of girl he's looking for tonight, then he will actually LOOK for those recips to go back into the menu and try to find another girl... in which case you can trade him for another surfer who might come to check you out and fall in love. If a surfer comes straight to your site, grab him by the balls and don't let go. Give him no choice but to focus on YOU - not some cool-looking graphics that promise hundreds of amateurs to choose from. You're running a paysite, not a free traffic pump. If you must, pop a recip page on the surfer after he has decided not to join your site and not accepted your last-chance offer - but ONLY after he's absolutely certain he's leaving! Be fair to yourself and fair to your affiliates - make a clean tour. See what I'm saying?

03-04-2003, 01:51 PM	#46
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	(blush) Thanks Carrie Our design team will take real good care of Kayla __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money