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dyna mo · 01-28-2014, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

"the first seminal work to which the label Science Fiction can be logically attached".
He means its the first great sci-fi work, not the very first book.

that's just an opinion though, a book about going to the moon surely must be sci-fi? one called Somnium written in 1608 does that, Isaac Asimov considers it the first sci-fi book. Or how about the ancient stories of the Ramayana written in the 4 century BC which is often used by ancient astronaut theorists as proof of alien visits. that's just two examples

"a novel that many now accept as the progenitor of modern science fiction"

I hear ya, it's all opinion. I'm certainly not claiming to be an expert, nevertheless, my comment was true- I was watching a documentary and in it was made the assertion that Mary Shelley is the mother of Science Fiction. I can see how that makes sense.

rogueteens · 01-28-2014, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

I hear ya, it's all opinion. I'm certainly not claiming to be an expert, nevertheless, my comment was true- I was watching a documentary and in it was made the assertion that Mary Shelley is the mother of Science Fiction. I can see how that makes sense.

I don't doubt you did

dyna mo · 01-28-2014, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

I don't doubt you did

Also, It seems we aren't disagreeing, the assertion that she is the mother of science fiction doesn't mean she was the first to write science fiction.

CDSmith · 01-30-2014, 12:36 PM

Did the term 'science fiction' even exist before Frankenstien? I can live with Mary Shelly being dubbed the mother of it. There are always going to be 'softer' or lesser known works that came prior to hers, but it was her monster that served to be the 'big bang' of the science fiction genre. Before it there are bits and pieces, hints and mentions, and as I said several lesser known works or even known works that simply didn't have the massive impact that Shelly had. But after Frankenstien there are a host of books, movies, and later on TV series that flooded the world with aliens, rockets, space, planets, monsters, creatures, saucers, robots, and the unworldly bizarre.

The assertion isn't that she was the first. She wasn't. But when I think of the origins of what we now know as "science fiction" she and her creation definitely comes to the forefront. No better mother could a genre like this have.

davethedope · 01-30-2014, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JockoHomo

Your sci-fi education is seriously lacking then as it is a classic and I agree that it is probably the most realistic look into the probable future that has ever been produced.

It is not about aliens or anything like that...it is a movie that predicts and shows you a future that is rapidly going more and more true with each passing year.

Highly recommend you watch it tonight!

read someting yesterday which posits the opposite saying the more accurately a sci-fi film predicts the future the more dated it becomes thus.

It asserts Star Wars is superior sci-fi to Star Trek because of this, as Star Wars is myth and fiction which is timeless.

Star Trek is essentially too logical and real

CarlosTheGaucho · 01-30-2014, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Did the term 'science fiction' even exist before Frankenstien? I can live with Mary Shelly being dubbed the mother of it. There are always going to be 'softer' or lesser known works that came prior to hers, but it was her monster that served to be the 'big bang' of the science fiction genre. Before it there are bits and pieces, hints and mentions, and as I said several lesser known works or even known works that simply didn't have the massive impact that Shelly had. But after Frankenstien there are a host of books, movies, and later on TV series that flooded the world with aliens, rockets, space, planets, monsters, creatures, saucers, robots, and the unworldly bizarre.

The assertion isn't that she was the first. She wasn't. But when I think of the origins of what we now know as "science fiction" she and her creation definitely comes to the forefront. No better mother could a genre like this have.

Speaking of Frankenstein, the original novel is brilliant and as authentic and original as it gets, it's an amazing piece of untouched, chilling art, as far as it deals with humanity and questioning it.

Speaking of movie adaptations, this one tops it for me:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109836/?ref_=nv_sr_3

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