Porn Chick Tiffany Fox Vows To Take LADirect Down

[Mutt]

Tiffany Fox ‏@RealTiffanyFox 3h

Your agent sends you to a private and says it's a flick? NOOO problem, start reporting them to the FBI @DirectModels can't wait for the day (which is soon) that the government finds your secrets.... Fuck ur pimping, your days will end promise

Tiffany Fox ‏@RealTiffanyFox 3h

I contacted my attorney in PA, he said any female who was forced into illegal sex work to contact him for the case. Follow me I'll dm u info

Tiffany Fox ‏@RealTiffanyFox 3h

Illegal sex trafficking that isn't with consent needs to stop

Tiffany Fox ‏@RealTiffanyFox 3h

Female performers we need to stand up & take action! Agencies send girls sometimes to privates without girls realizing it THIS IS WRONG!...

[SBJ]

wow sounds like serious bidness right there

[marcop]

Porn girls doing privates? I find that hard to believe. Many of them are finding new, well-rewarded careers in other industries. For example, I called an agency just last Friday to book a model (who had been in the porn biz for ~10 years), but they told me that she was no longer with them. The agent went on to explain that she'd moved to the Gulf paradise that is Dubai for an indefinite period.

I chatted with the agent for a while, and although he was uncertain as to what exactly she was doing, we finally agreed that she'd probably found a highly remunerative position in the petroleum industry.

[Robbie]

Don't these girls realize that they are fucking themselves and everybody in the adult industry by airing that kind of shit in public?

Look...if you are a girl in the adult industry and you go to a "shoot" that turns out to be an escort gig, just leave if you don't like the money.

Jesus fucking Christ. Nobody is forcing anybody to have sex and get paid.

If you want to make the easiest money of your life...then simply fuck the guy and take the money. If it "offends" you, then just simply say "no" and walk away.

Posting stupid shit like that just opens the door for the govt. to further stick their nose in where it doesn't belong.

I wish this were still a closed business and amateurs were kept the fuck out of it.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by marcop

Porn girls doing privates? I find that hard to believe. Many of them are finding new, well-rewarded careers in other industries. For example, I called an agency just last Friday to book a model (who had been in the porn biz for ~10 years), but they told me that she was no longer with them. The agent went on to explain that she'd moved to the Gulf paradise that is Dubai for an indefinite period.

I chatted with the agent for a while, and although he was uncertain as to what exactly she was doing, we finally agreed that she'd probably found a highly remunerative position in the petroleum industry.

LOL i know but what this girl and many others are saying is LADirect, a licensed talent agency, is simultaneously running an illegal prostitution business AND some girls are being deceived into thinking they are going on professional porn shoots when in reality they are being booked for privates. Which is different than a girl deciding to go to Dubai and work for an escort agency there.

These girls are dumb, if they really wanted the LAPD to bust LADirect all it would take is some of these girls making contact with and providing some freebies to a few detectives.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Derek sez he's still #1:







ADG

[Robbie]

Goddamn...I just read her twitter feed...this girl is a miserable human being. All the fuck she does is bitch and complain about everything.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Posting stupid shit like that just opens the door for the govt. to further stick their nose in where it doesn't belong.

I wish this were still a closed business and amateurs were kept the fuck out of it.

You're bitching about young girls endangering the industry by shooting off their mouths - what about the middle aged male scumbags who allegedly are breaking the law who will eventually be caught and bring more public and political scrutiny upon the industry?

If you want to run an escort agency then get out of the porn industry and run your escort agency, simple.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by Mutt

You're bitching about young girls endangering the industry by shooting off their mouths - what about the middle aged male scumbags who allegedly are breaking the law who will eventually be caught and bring more public and political scrutiny upon the industry?

If you want to run an escort agency then get out of the porn industry and run your escort agency, simple.

THIS!!

The girl wants to be a pornstar not a escort. Why should she have to walk away from scheduled "shoots" that turn out to be escort sessions. These people are in the wrong not the girl.. Is she going about it the wrong way? maybe but she is not the one that is in the wrong here.

[VamosNicholas]

Not the first time I've heard this.

And I have to agree with Mutt.

[Kelli58]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Don't these girls realize that they are fucking themselves and everybody in the adult industry by airing that kind of shit in public?

So if she is getting abused and taken advantage of, she should just keep her mouth shut and hope for the best? Seriously?

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Mutt

You're bitching about young girls endangering the industry by shooting off their mouths - what about the middle aged male scumbags who allegedly are breaking the law who will eventually be caught and bring more public and political scrutiny upon the industry?

If you want to run an escort agency then get out of the porn industry and run your escort agency, simple.

If she doesn't want to do an escort gig...then simply walk away. Nobody is forcing her to do anything.

But posting it on Twitter and talking about bringing the govt. in?

That's just fucking stupid.
As for "breaking the law"...are you serious? That "law" is such bullshit that it's unreal. Full grown men and women should be able to pay or be paid for sex. It's nobody else's business. ESPECIALLY the nanny state govt.

This girl should just say "no" if she doesn't want that money. There are smart girls lined up around the block who would gladly take it.

The "porn industry" is just a small part of the SEX industry. Escorting & stripping are also a big part of this industry.
Nobody told her she had to escort. What did she do...show up and when she found out that it wasn't really a porn shoot she fucked anyway? Or did she say "no" and walk away?

She needs to understand that getting the govt. involved is about the goddamned worst thing she could do for all of us.
You don't agree with that? You want the govt. coming around to investigate YOU when and if you shoot some porn?
Think about that before you go off on me. I'm just telling it like it is.

As for what I said about her Twitter feed..just read it for yourself. Go past all this latest drama about "pimping" and go on down the feed back in time. Not very many bright and sunshiney posts in her twitter feed.
No wonder nobody is following her. She's seems to be miserable and unhappy.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Kelli58

So if she is getting abused and taken advantage of, she should just keep her mouth shut and hope for the best? Seriously?

Seriously? "Abused and taken advantage of"?

WTF?

She's a full grown woman. Not a "victim".

I believe in equality for women. Not treating them like they are too dumb and weak to take care of themselves.

If she showed up for a gig that turned out to be a private...then all she had to do was say "NO".
No need to fuck up the entire industry over it.

[dyna mo]

I've been with models a couple times who've called up the agent while I happened to be around and let em know not to book those with them, very clearly. Seems like a better way to handle it than to tweet a revolution about it. maybe the stern phone call doesn't work.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by SBJ

The girl wants to be a pornstar not a escort. Why should she have to walk away from scheduled "shoots" that turn out to be escort sessions. These people are in the wrong not the girl.. Is she going about it the wrong way? maybe but she is not the one that is in the wrong here.

I'm not saying she was in the wrong in the beginning. But two wrongs don't make a "right".

And what is she going to do if not walk away? If she shows up, and finds out that the 5 hours on set she was going to have to do for $1,000 has now turned into an easy 30 minutes to get a guy off (which she was going to do anyway) and make the same money...then she can make that decision on the spot and just walk away.

And then tell the agent NOT to send he on another gig like that one.

This ain't rocket science. And nobody is forcing her to do anything.

All I'm saying is that posting that kind of stupid shit just gives the govt. more ammunition against us. It isn't going to "help" her with her complaint. It isn't going to stop men from wanting to pay girls to have sex. It isn't gonna bring rainbows and unicorns.

The only possible result of her tweeting that kind of shit is bad for all of us.

She should have just handled it professionally as I said. If she didn't want the easy money...say "no" and tell the agent not to send her for any more of those kinds of gigs.

Instead, she just went on Twitter and lost any of the "legit" gigs that agency might have ever given her.

Burning bridges and exposing the industry is not the smartest thing to do.

[InfoGuy]

Originally Posted by Robbie

She needs to understand that getting the govt. involved is about the goddamned worst thing she could do for all of us.

Getting the government involved in anything, adult industry related or not, is bad.

[VamosNicholas]

She did nothing wrong by calling out LA direct. Other girls have said the same shit about what happens there. And given the other stuff I've heard about Derek, I don't imagine telling him "no" is going to be good for the model in question. He seems like the kind of guy that will go leaps and bounds to fuck you over should you cross him.

I don't know if she'd care. She seems to have moved overseas and can probably get XXX work there.

[Socks]

And what of her wasted time? And what of the other gigs she may have turned down?

They knew what they were doing and got caught.

THEY put the industry in jeopardy. You should be mad at them. If they want to do shit like that on the side, at least have a list of models who are okay with it. At the fucking least.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by VamosNicholas

She did nothing wrong by calling out LA direct.

Yeah, she did....she put it on Twitter and threatened to bring the govt. in.

The govt. wants us ALL shut down. They don't give a fuck. And every little nail in the coffin is one step closer.

As I said earlier...the general public reads that Twitter feed and INSTANTLY we are all "pimps" taking advantage of poor innocent girls who are so weak and dumb.

Then we ALL get crucified.

All she had to do was say "I don't do that" if she is too "good" to make the same money in faster time for doing the same exact thing she was going to do to begin with.

It's really just that simple.

Nobody forced her to do anything. And from reading her Twitter feed, she seems to be a generally unhappy person who does a lot of complaining about everything...or maybe she only tweets when she's pissed off or something.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by Robbie

...It isn't gonna bring rainbows and unicorns...

I LOLed.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Socks

And what of her wasted time? And what of the other gigs she may have turned down?

They knew what they were doing and got caught.

THEY put the industry in jeopardy. You should be mad at them. If they want to do shit like that on the side, at least have a list of models who are okay with it. At the fucking least.

I would say this:
1. This IS the sex industry.

2. I agree that IF the agent knew, he should have given her the heads up about it ahead of time. That's just plain out dumb.

3. There isn't enough work in the porn industry for her to have been turning down other shoots on the same day at the same exact time. Even if she was an in demand girl. So I'm not sure that she lost any work...until she started raising hell on Twitter that is.

4. I'm not "mad" at the agency. I think agencies are stupid to begin with. I have no idea why any of these girls would ever give their money to an agent. Hell almost every company that produces porn has a "model" link on their site.
But no...the agency didn't expose the business.

They sent a girl out to make money. She got there and it wasn't what she expected. Boo-hoo. Just say "no" if you don't want that easy money. Go back to the agent and tell them you no longer wish to work with them and no hard feelings.

Then she could have simply booked herself.

Though why on Earth she would somehow NOT want to make the easy money is beyond me.
But if it DOES offend her to fuck a guy and get the money quickly and get home as opposed to being on set all day long and fucking a guy and getting the same money...that's her right and her choice.

It's just not cool to threaten to get people arrested and bring the govt. in, etc.

That hurts EVERYBODY in this business.

[Alex1776]

I met Tiffany, don't like her

[TrashyGirl]

Major issue is the agency assuming she would do private/escort sessions. Had they asked her first whether she was copacetic w/ this type of scenario, she would have had the option to say no, end of. However, social media is the wrong outlet for this incident to go on blast. She should have let LA Direct know what her limits are and cut ties with them. (Two wrongs don't make a right?) And if she really has brought LE into the matter and isn't just aggrandizing shit on Twitter, then it could become a huge exposé in the media or even a "sex trafficking" scandal for LE to bust open. She doesn't care if she's burned bridges working in the USA, since it seems like from her MM profile, she's Euro based now. I don't blame her for being upset, but to use another cliché in my post, she's making a mountain out of a mole hill.

[notinmybackyard]

Perhaps she should contact Spallone.

Then Rob can hunt down Skippy and DK and together they can resurect Star World Modeling in the back of the ice cream truck. This girl can be the first polaroid in his pimp album.

[teomaxxx]

Originally Posted by Mutt

LADirect, a licensed talent agency, is simultaneously running an illegal prostitution business AND some girls are being deceived into thinking they are going on professional porn shoots when in reality they are being booked for privates....

Next time the customer of LAdirect better take a googleglass and tell a girl they are shoting fake "private sex tape" content...

[woj]

I don't get it, what's the downside of doing an escort gig vs a porn shoot? Escort gig seems better from every possible angle... takes less time... you have one less scene done = you are fresher = easier to get jobs (??)... less likely your friends/family will find out... etc

it may seem like slightly lower level of work, but is it really? does it really matter if the camera is on and millions of strangers will jerk off to it in the next few days?

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by woj

I don't get it, what's the downside of doing an escort gig vs a porn shoot? Escort gig seems better from every possible angle... takes less time... you have one less scene done = you are fresher = easier to get jobs (??)... less likely your friends/family will find out... etc

it may seem like slightly lower level of work, but is it really? does it really matter if the camera is on and millions of strangers will jerk off to it in the next few days?

i never really understood that either but still it's her decision

and i think at least the agency should tell her before - "leaving when she doesnt like the money" is no option because she might have had a regular porn job that day that she didn't take plus the time she lost plus the stress with the customer...

i think it's pretty shady from the agency

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by woj

I don't get it, what's the downside of doing an escort gig vs a porn shoot? Escort gig seems better from every possible angle... takes less time... you have one less scene done = you are fresher = easier to get jobs (??)... less likely your friends/family will find out... etc

it may seem like slightly lower level of work, but is it really? does it really matter if the camera is on and millions of strangers will jerk off to it in the next few days?

uh well there is one huge difference...one is legal and the other is illegal. any porn agents sending girls to do escort work are basically criminal pimps. not to mention there is no testing done with escorting, she goes thinking its a shoot with camera guys, director, whoever instead of one guy who wants to fuck her.

and yada yada it shouldn't be illegal, blah blah but it is.

i think robbies attitude is kind of sad. he obviously doesn't care for these girls who do porn. he just wants to make sure people keep their mouth shut so there are no problems caused for guys like him. i guess the girls should be lucky their pimps...er agents don't sell them into sexual slavery.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Goddamn...I just read her twitter feed...this girl is a miserable human being. All the fuck she does is bitch and complain about everything.

Robbie I have a lot of resect for you and your post however I have to draw the line a line in the sand right here....I find it hard to believe that a porn girl could be a miserable cunt

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Robbie

The "porn industry" is just a small part of the SEX industry. Escorting & stripping are also a big part of this industry.

I agree, I didn't understand this for the first 8 years I was in the biz but Robbie is right as rain on this one... if you don't understand this as well you definitely don't have much insight into the biz

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Seriously? "Abused and taken advantage of"?

WTF?

She's a full grown woman. Not a "victim".

I believe in equality for women. Not treating them like they are too dumb and weak to take care of themselves.

If she showed up for a gig that turned out to be a private...then all she had to do was say "NO".
No need to fuck up the entire industry over it.

reality check for the homeboy you have replied too. Robbie... these young women are treated far WORSE by their boyfriends than the industry... and just make sure the dipshit has a clue, lets all understand this as well... the women in porn are treated MUCH better than the average woman working at a bank or ins office...

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by InfoGuy

Getting the government involved in anything, adult industry related or not, is bad.

cool, can't wait to see your net drop by 40% on fees and regulations... I'm so excited for you

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by VamosNicholas

. And given the other stuff I've heard about Derek,

so basically you're talking out your ass spreading rumors and negative gossip and you don't actually know shit??

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

uh well there is one huge difference...one is legal and the other is illegal.

actually it's just a matter of location (which really means selfish decision based on political whims)

i think robbies attitude is kind of sad. he obviously doesn't care for these girls who do porn. he just wants to make sure people keep their mouth shut so there are no problems caused for guys like him.

you obviously have had NO interaction with porn girls

i guess the girls should be lucky their pimps...er agents don't sell them into sexual slavery.

pretty interesting comment... 99% of porn girls barely function at an unacceptable level.... like paying bills, showing up on time, telling the truth... stuff like that... as far as the slavery goes.... fucking people for money and spending all their free time wasted on drugs... that deff is slavery to me... but self imposed..

[woj]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

uh well there is one huge difference...one is legal and the other is illegal. any porn agents sending girls to do escort work are basically criminal pimps. not to mention there is no testing done with escorting, she goes thinking its a shoot with camera guys, director, whoever instead of one guy who wants to fuck her.

and yada yada it shouldn't be illegal, blah blah but it is.

i think robbies attitude is kind of sad. he obviously doesn't care for these girls who do porn. he just wants to make sure people keep their mouth shut so there are no problems caused for guys like him. i guess the girls should be lucky their pimps...er agents don't sell them into sexual slavery.

the testing detail, sure, fair enough, it's possible some random guy off the street is less safe to fuck...

but legality of it... I'm not too convinced... as far as she is concerned she was hired a by a legit agency and is doing legit work... shooting hidden camera porn for all she knows...

agency owner may be breaking the law, but that's his problem... girl is doing same exact work whether the camera is rolling or not, so I don't see how she is getting harmed in any way....

[Vendzilla]

I've known escorts that model and models that escort.
They are having sex for money, one way is with a camera.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

actually it's just a matter of location (which really means selfish decision based on political whims)

isn't the only state its legal in is nevada?

you obviously have had NO interaction with porn girls

no i don't but its obvious that these girls are venerable people who are at risk.

pretty interesting comment... 99% of porn girls barely function at an unacceptable level.... like paying bills, showing up on time, telling the truth... stuff like that... as far as slavery goes.... fucking people for money and spending all their free time wasted on drugs... that deff is slavery to me... but self imposed..

why not go all the way and keep the in cages and rent them out like uhauls then.

[InfoGuy]

well i can tell you this much, i had to go behind their back when i was with them & booked my own work to pay my bills

Her attorney should have told her to keep her mouth shut. Derek can now sue her for breach of contract.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Derek sez he's still #1:







ADG

I have that shirt

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Robbie

If she doesn't want to do an escort gig...then simply walk away. Nobody is forcing her to do anything.

But posting it on Twitter and talking about bringing the govt. in?

That's just fucking stupid.
As for "breaking the law"...are you serious? That "law" is such bullshit that it's unreal. Full grown men and women should be able to pay or be paid for sex. It's nobody else's business. ESPECIALLY the nanny state govt.

This girl should just say "no" if she doesn't want that money. There are smart girls lined up around the block who would gladly take it.

The "porn industry" is just a small part of the SEX industry. Escorting & stripping are also a big part of this industry.
Nobody told her she had to escort. What did she do...show up and when she found out that it wasn't really a porn shoot she fucked anyway? Or did she say "no" and walk away?

She needs to understand that getting the govt. involved is about the goddamned worst thing she could do for all of us.
You don't agree with that? You want the govt. coming around to investigate YOU when and if you shoot some porn?
Think about that before you go off on me. I'm just telling it like it is.

As for what I said about her Twitter feed..just read it for yourself. Go past all this latest drama about "pimping" and go on down the feed back in time. Not very many bright and sunshiney posts in her twitter feed.
No wonder nobody is following her. She's seems to be miserable and unhappy.

Yeah no big deal. They tell you they work for you and you agre to it. Then drive over expecting said work but nope it is different and now illegal work but wtf, shut up and take the lost day? This is crazy talk.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

isn't the only state its legal in is nevada?

no i don't but its obvious that these girls are venerable people who are at risk.


why not go all the way and keep the in cages and rent them out like uhauls then.

so what if all but counties in Nevada have legal prostitution? you're comment about models show you have NO clue about the industry or the people in it no matter how hysterically you phrase your post ... there are about 12 billion people on earth that are vulnerable and at risk.. what's your point?

you so concerened stop working as an adult webmaster

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

so what if all but counties in Nevada have legal prostitution? you're comment about models show you have NO clue about the industry or the people in it no matter how hysterically you phrase your post ... there are about 12 billion people on earth that are vulnerable and at risk.. what's your point?

you so concerened stop working as an adult webmaster

maybe i'd get into shooting content if i could rent them out like uhauls. can i get the $15 insurance so i don't have to worry about damaging them?

[eodiv]

The burning question (in my mind) is did she go through with the escort gig and do the job or not?

If she did, then took to Twitter later to bitch about it, she is dumber than a bag of sticks (which I think has already been established).

[CaptainHowdy]

Poor, defenseless thing ...

[DWB]

I'm with Robbie on this. Don't want to sell your vag when there isn't a cam in the room, then say no. Or if it makes you feel any better, ask the client to set up his own cam on a tri-pod and call it a "homemade" porn movie.

The choice is hers.

The same applies to something on the set. If she is asked to do something she does not want to do, she can just say no. If she loses some work over it, that's the risk she takes. It's a tough gig and it isn't for everyone.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Mutt

You're bitching about young girls endangering the industry by shooting off their mouths - what about the middle aged male scumbags who allegedly are breaking the law who will eventually be caught and bring more public and political scrutiny upon the industry?

If you want to run an escort agency then get out of the porn industry and run your escort agency, simple.

Fair enough, but what does she mean by "forcing" them to escort. I assume they can simply reject the offer.

[woj]

Originally Posted by slapass

Yeah no big deal. They tell you they work for you and you agre to it. Then drive over expecting said work but nope it is different and now illegal work but wtf, shut up and take the lost day? This is crazy talk.

yea, you got hired to fuck... you show up to work and the client wants you to fuck...
I would be pissed too...

I agree it may be a bit not cool, but to create drama over bullshit like this? so it happens first time, you drive over for a gig, it's not quite what you expected so you go back home... you bitch a little to the agency owner, but shit happens, so you write it off as some miscommunication...

it happens again, so you stop working with that agency... no? what am I missing?

[DWB]

Originally Posted by slapass

Yeah no big deal. They tell you they work for you and you agre to it. Then drive over expecting said work but nope it is different and now illegal work but wtf, shut up and take the lost day? This is crazy talk.

No one said it was fair, or easy.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by woj

yea, you got hired to fuck... you show up to work and the client wants you to fuck...
I would be pissed too...

I've always been fascinated by the girls who will fuck for money if there is a camera in the room, but not fuck for money if there is not.

However, that is their choice and not mine to make. I just find it strange.

[BlackCrayon]

this thread is evidence that a number of people in the industry view the "talent" as stupid, disposable, and property rather than a person. i guess taking advantage of people who are fucked in the head is fair game.