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kane · 07-19-2014, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

But do you understand that being an actor is a job?

So an employee should be ready and willing to do anything and employer asks of them even if they are not comfortable doing so?

VikingMan · 07-20-2014, 12:51 AM

I might kiss a straight guy but never some flaming queer.

xholly · 07-20-2014, 06:25 AM

bronco67 · 07-20-2014, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GregE

Actors and actresses turn down roles that include scenes they're uncomfortable with all the time. This is nothing new.

That's right. They can do whatever they want. I'm just saying it makes them not very good at their craft.

bronco67 · 07-20-2014, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

So an employee should be ready and willing to do anything and employer asks of them even if they are not comfortable doing so?

You can't equate every job in existence to acting.

The job is playing make believe. Not doing morally unethical things -- which is what I'm assuming you mean by "uncomfortable" requests by an employer.

CDSmith · 07-20-2014, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

I'm just saying it makes them not very good at their craft.

And I'm just saying that's pure bullshit. Every great actor you can think of has turned down roles for one reason or another. Tons have turned down roles because they aren't willing to do nude scenes, for example. You're saying that makes them "not very good at their craft", but Evil Knevil on a Jet bike couldn't make that leap, I'm not sure why you think you can.

It doesn't wash. Your 'point' is a non-starter. Multi-award winning OSCAR winners have turned down roles because they weren't comfortable with this thing or that. Some don't want their careers to be typecast. Has nothing at all to do with their acting ability, ie: how good they are at their craft.

Get it through your thick head. You're wrong.

bronco67 · 07-20-2014, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

And I'm just saying that's pure bullshit. Every great actor you can think of has turned down roles for one reason or another. Tons have turned down roles because they aren't willing to do nude scenes, for example. You're saying that makes them "not very good at their craft", but Evil Knevil on a Jet bike couldn't make that leap, I'm not sure why you think you can.

It doesn't wash. Your 'point' is a non-starter. Multi-award winning OSCAR winners have turned down roles because they weren't comfortable with this thing or that. Some don't want their careers to be typecast. Has nothing at all to do with their acting ability, ie: how good they are at their craft.

Get it through your thick head. You're wrong.

You have made me see what an idiot I am. Thanks.

CDSmith · 07-20-2014, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

You have made me see what an idiot I am. Thanks.

Not sure if serious..

kane · 07-20-2014, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

You can't equate every job in existence to acting.

The job is playing make believe. Not doing morally unethical things -- which is what I'm assuming you mean by "uncomfortable" requests by an employer.

Not at all.

Let's say you work at McDonald's. When you were hired you were told you will work the fry machine, make burgers, run the register, mop, sweep etc. One day you come in and they are putting a new roof on the place. The owner decided to save some money and do the work himself. So when you show up for work they tell you that you are going to be up on the roof tearing up shingles and helping re-roof the building. You aren't comfortable climbing 20 feet in the air and working on the roof. Should you have to? You are a McDonald's employee after all and this is technically doing something for the company.

Another example. You are a pornstar. You get hired to shoot a scene where you will bang some woman on a couch. Great. You accept the gig and show up for the shoot. When you arrive they tell you there has been a change of plans. They have decided to make it a bisexual threeway scene. You are still going to bang the girl, but you are also going to get blown by a guy and you have to jerk the other guy off. Should you still have to do this? Afterall, you are a pornstar. Your job is to fuck. What should it matter who you fuck?

It isn't like this guy sued them or even made a big deal out of the situation. They wanted him to have scenes where he would pretend to be gay and have a gay relationship. He didn't like the idea of that and was uncomfortable with it so he quit. Just like you should be able to quit any job if you are not comfortable with what the employer is asking you to do.

bronco67 · 07-20-2014, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

Not at all.

Let's say you work at McDonald's. When you were hired you were told you will work the fry machine, make burgers, run the register, mop, sweep etc. One day you come in and they are putting a new roof on the place. The owner decided to save some money and do the work himself. So when you show up for work they tell you that you are going to be up on the roof tearing up shingles and helping re-roof the building. You aren't comfortable climbing 20 feet in the air and working on the roof. Should you have to? You are a McDonald's employee after all and this is technically doing something for the company.

Another example. You are a pornstar. You get hired to shoot a scene where you will bang some woman on a couch. Great. You accept the gig and show up for the shoot. When you arrive they tell you there has been a change of plans. They have decided to make it a bisexual threeway scene. You are still going to bang the girl, but you are also going to get blown by a guy and you have to jerk the other guy off. Should you still have to do this? Afterall, you are a pornstar. Your job is to fuck. What should it matter who you fuck?

It isn't like this guy sued them or even made a big deal out of the situation. They wanted him to have scenes where he would pretend to be gay and have a gay relationship. He didn't like the idea of that and was uncomfortable with it so he quit. Just like you should be able to quit any job if you are not comfortable with what the employer is asking you to do.

Okay, but porn is actual sex. Mainstream TV show is kissing at the most. It's not the same thing.

bronco67 · 07-20-2014, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Not sure if serious..

If you don't know, then you shouldn't be trying to make points with me.

Jel · 07-20-2014, 04:30 PM

"it's his/her job so they suck at their job if they don't do something they aren't comfortable with"

l o l

I'm truly amazed at this line of thinking. They should be getting a round of applause for not just whoring themselves out for the money, and fucking off their own convictions. This is to be lauded, not derided.

Jel · 07-20-2014, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly

hahaha, I knew that was gonna be what it was, but funny as fuck

VikingMan · 07-20-2014, 05:31 PM

scrotum cozy

kane · 07-20-2014, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Okay, but porn is actual sex. Mainstream TV show is kissing at the most. It's not the same thing.

Okay, let me simplify it for you.

You are a pornstar. You get hired to bang some girl in a scene. You show up for the scene and she smells nasty. She clearly hasn't showered in several days and her pussy smells like a four day old rotten tuna can that a Mariachi band has farted on for a solid week.

Should you have the right to say no, you aren't going to have sex with her even though that is what you were hired to do?

CDSmith · 07-21-2014, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

If you don't know, then you shouldn't be trying to make points with me.

Oh believe me I know. :D

And no one is 'trying to make points with you'. Everyone is however trying to get you to pull your head out of your ass on this one point.

Ka-peesh?

GregE · 07-21-2014, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

That's right. They can do whatever they want. I'm just saying it makes them not very good at their craft.

We'll just have to agree to disagree then.

Keep in mind though that this wouldn't have even been an issue had the gay scenes been included in the original script. Anytime you change a job description after you make your hires, you gotta figure shit might happen.

Lichen · 07-21-2014, 12:08 PM

what wrong with being 'anti-gay' ?

homosexuals are disgusting, vile creatures

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VikingMan Exploiting human weakness Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: next to a salmon stream Posts: 6,510	I might kiss a straight guy but never some flaming queer.

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07-20-2014, 04:30 PM	#62
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	"it's his/her job so they suck at their job if they don't do something they aren't comfortable with" l o l I'm truly amazed at this line of thinking. They should be getting a round of applause for not just whoring themselves out for the money, and fucking off their own convictions. This is to be lauded, not derided.

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VikingMan Exploiting human weakness Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: next to a salmon stream Posts: 6,510	scrotum cozy

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Lichen Tube Master Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,640	what wrong with being 'anti-gay' ? homosexuals are disgusting, vile creatures