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Old 09-20-2014, 03:05 PM   #51
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whiskey = good shit.

which are the high value (flavor, smoothness, price) whiskeys to try?

is there such a thing as a smooth whiskey or is that part of it all?

what else?

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Isle of Skye is the smoothest, most wonderful single malt I've had.

25 year-old, triple charcoal-filtered Gentleman Jack is the best bourbon.

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canadian club (cc) is decent, not too sweet.
I do not like whiskeys because of their distinct "plastic" (as I call it) taste so someone recommended me this as the one which is very mild in that regard. True?
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welp. out of wild turkey, got some good alts now!
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Jack Daniel's Silver Select Single Barrel Tennessee Whiskey 70cl / 50%
Each barrel of Silver Select is never blended, so you can expect slight differences from bottle to bottle.
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Have about 30 different types of bourbon and other American whiskeys on my bar now

My go tos are makers mark or rebel yell for cheap drinks ($20 for a handle and it's pretty good). Others I like are basil haydens (larceny is a cheap alternative that is similar), eagle rare, bulleit, turkey 101, rockhill farms, jefferson reserve

Big fan of bourbon barrel stout type beers too

I find bourbons usually go from cheap to up to $60-70, but there are so many excellent ones for under $30 that it's pretty unnecessary these days to pay the premium

Not much of a fan of scotch or Irish whiskys
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I absolutely detest Jack Daniels. Tastes like shit, and for some reason makes me sick quite often.


Johnny Walker or Jameson and Pickle Back or Ginger is my go-to.
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Bourbon is gut rot, and not a true whiskey.
Johnny Walker is absolute pig swill. Their "premium labels" are for idiots with more money than taste. Same goes for all blends (ok, maybe ALMOST all blends)
Men with taste drink single malt Scotch. I prefer an Islay whiskey over anything else but there are some really nice Speysides as well. If you like peaty, smokey flavours then go for something like a Laphroig as a good entry point. If that's too heavy for you Caol Ila make some excellent stuff, still peaty and smokey but much lighter, almost fruity. A lot of the Islay distillers (and a lot of the mainland distillers as well) have been messing around with used sherry casks, wine casks, bourbon barrels etc to impart new flavours and these are definitely worth looking into. The lighter Islay's part aged in sherry casks are almost always incredible.
Remember- any liqour you have to mix is clearly rubbish. Whiskey should be drunk on the rocks or with a little water. If it rips your throat out drinking it like that, or the taste is unbearable, it's shitty.
My cupboard currently has a Laphroig, an Ardbeg, A Talisker (the Dark and Stormy, which is fucking delightful), A Spey River, A Dewars and a Highland Park which has sat relatively untouched for ages. Someone gave it to me as a gift. Mostly very reasonably priced, entry point type stuff and I highly recommend all of them except the Highland Park and the Dewars which is ok. I'd also recommend Bunnahaibahn (sp?), Bruichladdich (the classic "Laddy" is another really good entry point for an unpeated Islay), Caol Ila.... and too many more to even name.
Honestly, the best thing to do is find a whiskey bar with a huge Scotch selection and visit a number of times, chat to the staff and zero in on what you like through trial and error.
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Bourbon Whiskey is only an American spirit. The other Amrican whiskey usually found is sour mash whiskey like Jack Daniels. Notice the spelling "whiskey" is for American products. "whisky" is the usual Scotch spelling.
I prefer The Balvenie in a Scotch. Although we went on our honeymoon to Jack Daniels, many a year ago. I've been to Scotch & Bourbon tastings and you can find stuff to die for. Or as W C Fields said, "died in a barrel of whiskey, O' death where is thy sting?"
Woodford is damn good and I met the maker of 40 Creek, when he was touring at of all things a wine tasting. But this store has a wine tasting plus liquors, foods cooks in alcohol, mixes samples. You name it. plus it's a grocery store & hardware store.
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There used to be a local sour mash distillery a few miles from here. Not so good, but the free weekends were killer. They used it to bottle vodka, as you couldn't in Kansas, despite at the time 50% of all gin & vodka came from Kansas. The cheap neutral grain spirits stuff.
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Bourbon is gut rot, and not a true whiskey.
Johnny Walker is absolute pig swill. Their "premium labels" are for idiots with more money than taste. Same goes for all blends (ok, maybe ALMOST all blends)
Men with taste drink single malt Scotch. I prefer an Islay whiskey over anything else but there are some really nice Speysides as well. If you like peaty, smokey flavours then go for something like a Laphroig as a good entry point. If that's too heavy for you Caol Ila make some excellent stuff, still peaty and smokey but much lighter, almost fruity. A lot of the Islay distillers (and a lot of the mainland distillers as well) have been messing around with used sherry casks, wine casks, bourbon barrels etc to impart new flavours and these are definitely worth looking into. The lighter Islay's part aged in sherry casks are almost always incredible.
Remember- any liqour you have to mix is clearly rubbish. Whiskey should be drunk on the rocks or with a little water. If it rips your throat out drinking it like that, or the taste is unbearable, it's shitty.
My cupboard currently has a Laphroig, an Ardbeg, A Talisker (the Dark and Stormy, which is fucking delightful), A Spey River, A Dewars and a Highland Park which has sat relatively untouched for ages. Someone gave it to me as a gift. Mostly very reasonably priced, entry point type stuff and I highly recommend all of them except the Highland Park and the Dewars which is ok. I'd also recommend Bunnahaibahn (sp?), Bruichladdich (the classic "Laddy" is another really good entry point for an unpeated Islay), Caol Ila.... and too many more to even name.
Honestly, the best thing to do is find a whiskey bar with a huge Scotch selection and visit a number of times, chat to the staff and zero in on what you like through trial and error.
Well everyone has their own tastes, all the ones I listed off are delicious on the rocks or straight up (can skip the rebel yell but that has it's uses)
I'll mix coca cola w/ bourbon these days because I'm old and tired
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Bourbon is gut rot, and not a true whiskey.
Johnny Walker is absolute pig swill. Their "premium labels" are for idiots with more money than taste. Same goes for all blends (ok, maybe ALMOST all blends)
Men with taste drink single malt Scotch. I prefer an Islay whiskey over anything else but there are some really nice Speysides as well. If you like peaty, smokey flavours then go for something like a Laphroig as a good entry point. If that's too heavy for you Caol Ila make some excellent stuff, still peaty and smokey but much lighter, almost fruity. A lot of the Islay distillers (and a lot of the mainland distillers as well) have been messing around with used sherry casks, wine casks, bourbon barrels etc to impart new flavours and these are definitely worth looking into. The lighter Islay's part aged in sherry casks are almost always incredible.
Remember- any liqour you have to mix is clearly rubbish. Whiskey should be drunk on the rocks or with a little water. If it rips your throat out drinking it like that, or the taste is unbearable, it's shitty.
My cupboard currently has a Laphroig, an Ardbeg, A Talisker (the Dark and Stormy, which is fucking delightful), A Spey River, A Dewars and a Highland Park which has sat relatively untouched for ages. Someone gave it to me as a gift. Mostly very reasonably priced, entry point type stuff and I highly recommend all of them except the Highland Park and the Dewars which is ok. I'd also recommend Bunnahaibahn (sp?), Bruichladdich (the classic "Laddy" is another really good entry point for an unpeated Islay), Caol Ila.... and too many more to even name.
Honestly, the best thing to do is find a whiskey bar with a huge Scotch selection and visit a number of times, chat to the staff and zero in on what you like through trial and error.
according to sources, all bourbons are whiskey.

this thread is about whiskey, not scotch.
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according to sources, all bourbons are whiskey.

this thread is about whiskey, not scotch.
Isn't Scotch just whiskey that's made in Scotland? (Yes, there are other qualifications, but they only matter to this discussion if you're a twat)
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Isn't Scotch just whiskey that's made in Scotland? (Yes, there are other qualifications, but they only matter to this discussion if you're a twat)
It could be, I'm still learning about it all. It makes sense though. I was curious about the bourbon is not whiskey comment and googled it.

This is all prolly why I never got into whiskeys before, it's complicated- a lot of ins, a lot of outs, a lot of what have you's.

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Isn't Scotch just whiskey that's made in Scotland? (Yes, there are other qualifications, but they only matter to this discussion if you're a twat)
This quote seems to sum it up,

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The main difference between scotch and whisky is geographic, but also ingredients and spellings. Scotch is whisky made in Scotland, while bourbon is whiskey made in the U.S.A, generally Kentucky. Scotch is made mostly from malted barley, while bourbon is distilled from corn. If you?re in England and ask for a whisky, you?ll get Scotch. But in Ireland, you?ll get Irish whiskey (yep, they spell it differently for a little colour).

On this side of the pond, we have our own local color, too. The difference between Tennessee Whiskey, like Jack Daniel?s, for example, and Bourbon is that after the spirit is distilled, Tennessee Whiskey is filtered through sugar-maple charcoal. This filtering, known as the Lincoln County Process, is what distinguishes Tennessee Whiskey from your average Bourbon, like Jim Beam. The name, Bourbon, comes from an area known as Old Bourbon, around what is now Bourbon County, Kentucky.

On top of these types of whiskey, we also have Rye, which can refer either to American rye whiskey, which must be distilled from at least 51 percent rye or Canadian whisky, which may or may not actually include any rye in its production process. Confusing! Right?
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If it's of any help...Sinatra drank Jack Daniels.
2 fingers, 3 rocks.
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If it's of any help...Sinatra drank Jack Daniels.
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If it's of any help...Sinatra drank Jack Daniels.
2 fingers, 3 rocks.
Back in his day there wasn't hundreds of delicious bourbons (JD isn't bourbon btw) with many being added yearly

It's a great time to be a beer/liquor drinker these days
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Back in his day there wasn't hundreds of delicious bourbons (JD isn't bourbon btw) with many being added yearly

It's a great time to be a beer/liquor drinker these days
Keep in mind that "his day" ended 16 years ago. Not that long ago (1998).
I'm sure he (of all people) could drink anything he wanted...I was just sayin' that for the "cool" factor, Frank drank Jack.

Personally, I'm not much of a whiskey drinker. Every once in a while I'll do a straight shot of whiskey.
But I've pretty much settled into being a vodka kind of guy with the occasional nights of jagermeister from time to time.
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Heh-heh...I know I'm getting way off-topic. But my own post made me curious, so I looked up Sinatra in 1998 (the year of his death).
He was in pretty bad shape the last few months, so he wasn't drinking any whiskey at that point.

But reading about his funeral I saw that Nancy Sinatra slipped a bottle of Jack into the casket with him when he was buried.

And then I read that this was one of his favorite quotes:
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
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Heh-heh...I know I'm getting way off-topic. But my own post made me curious, so I looked up Sinatra in 1998 (the year of his death).
He was in pretty bad shape the last few months, so he wasn't drinking any whiskey at that point.

But reading about his funeral I saw that Nancy Sinatra slipped a bottle of Jack into the casket with him when he was buried.

And then I read that this was one of his favorite quotes:
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
God love ya Robbie ..... posts an avatar of himself in a tux before quoting Frank Sinatra
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And please note...I have a drink in my hand. lol
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And please note...I have a drink in my hand. lol
me too!

oh, you mean in the picture..........

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The main difference between scotch and whisky is geographic, but also ingredients and spellings. Scotch is whisky made in Scotland, while bourbon is whiskey made in the U.S.A, generally Kentucky. Scotch is made mostly from malted barley, while bourbon is distilled from corn. If you?re in England and ask for a whisky, you?ll get Scotch. But in Ireland, you?ll get Irish whiskey (yep, they spell it differently for a little colour).

On this side of the pond, we have our own local color, too. The difference between Tennessee Whiskey, like Jack Daniel?s, for example, and Bourbon is that after the spirit is distilled, Tennessee Whiskey is filtered through sugar-maple charcoal. This filtering, known as the Lincoln County Process, is what distinguishes Tennessee Whiskey from your average Bourbon, like Jim Beam. The name, Bourbon, comes from an area known as Old Bourbon, around what is now Bourbon County, Kentucky.

On top of these types of whiskey, we also have Rye, which can refer either to American rye whiskey, which must be distilled from at least 51 percent rye or Canadian whisky, which may or may not actually include any rye in its production process. Confusing! Right?
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Yeah, that was my general impression.
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If it's of any help...Sinatra drank Jack Daniels.
2 fingers, 3 rocks.
Sinatra had his own Jack Daniels



Bottled at 90 proof, and made with unique ?Sinatra Barrels?, Jack Daniel?s Sinatra Select pays tribute to Jack?s biggest fan: Mr. Frank Sinatra. These Sinatra barrels have deep grooves on the inside of the staves ? which exposes the whiskey to extra layers of oak. This imparts a rich amber color, bold character and a pleasant smokiness, followed by an incredibly smooth vanilla finish. Much like Frank himself, this whiskey is one of a kind.
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