Google Penguin 3.0 Pros and Cons - GoFuckYourself.com

Yo Adrian · 10-21-2014, 09:12 AM

The newest Penguin started rolling out on Friday and there's already loads of case studies and articles being written up about its effects. But it's too soon to determine anything really as this is going to be a slow roll out.

Cons
- A Googler posted on G+ that this roll out will take a few weeks. So we won't know the true impact for some time.

- This is a refresh, not an update. That means even if you were able to dodge the last cleansing, you might not be so lucky this time around.

Pros
This is a refresh, not an update. That means all of the work you put into cleaning up your backlink profiles may finally pay off. A number of my clients have already started to see a rebound, of course it's still too soon to determine the final effects.

rogueteens · 10-21-2014, 09:36 AM

fuck google.

hausarzt · 10-21-2014, 10:33 AM

MrTrollkien · 10-21-2014, 10:39 AM

Don't listen to 99%+ of the SEO bull and instead follow Matt Cutts advice of "Write for the user, not the engine".

If you have unique content of value, marked up semantically, with no dead internal links (they are more forgiving of dead outgoings), with natural organic backlinks by people who actually are interested in your content -- there shouldn't have EVER been nor will there ever be a Google algo' update that should worry you or have anything but a positive impact on your site.

BUT, if you've abused numbered headings for "weight" instead of "structure", keyword stuffed, abused/incorrectly used META, content-cloaked, have little if anything resembling semantics, signed up for link farms, paid for backlinks, loaded up on slow loading "gee ain't it neat" scripttardery, added further slow-loading presentational images for nothing crap... Well...

In that case you get what's coming to you.

Honestly it's fun watching the sleazy scam artist SEO types run around like chickens with their heads cut off every time Google announces an algo' update; almost immediately followed by ad-hominem attacks against Matt Cutts. You'd think they had a personal vendetta against the guy who's job it is to slap down people for attempting to abuse the system or something.

Jel · 10-21-2014, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTrollkien

Don't listen to 99%+ of the SEO bull and instead follow Matt Cutts advice of "Write for the user, not the engine".

nice troll

xXXtesy10 · 10-21-2014, 11:47 AM

Yo Adrian · 10-21-2014, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MrTrollkien

Honestly it's fun watching the sleazy scam artist SEO types run around like chickens with their heads cut off every time Google announces an algo' update; almost immediately followed by ad-hominem attacks against Matt Cutts.

Only the ones who either don't understand how G's algorithmic filters work or those who rely on old spammy methods to rank sites. You can be aggressive with your SEO and still be safe through updates if you adhere to Google's ideals. It's the guys who go out and get the easy links and use old over-optimization techniques that freak out after every update.

As for Matt Cutts... that's another thing. What he says and what is true, or what will be true in 6 months, aren't always the same thing

seeandsee · 10-21-2014, 03:52 PM

i know google algo, i can get top position in hours, pay me to show you what i know

/adwords

tiramisu · 10-21-2014, 04:35 PM

Agreed everything except keyword stuffing. U gotta do good research of what you wanna pursue for, then put it in a smart readable way in the title and body tags so it looks natural but same time has the potential to grab more keyword market share. Just going blindly thinking writing a topic or just add contents and think I have zillions of pages of contents and why de heck my site dont grow? Duh, how could google possibly understand without reading ur keywords and determine what to rank? In the end, not having to prepare only will hurt conversion and will never give u full exposure in the ocean of google.

TeenCat · 10-21-2014, 04:36 PM

i love the smell of overfried pengins ass

TeenCat · 10-21-2014, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

wow it is really you, wtf, i am in love ...

JA$ON · 10-21-2014, 04:43 PM

I dont envy search guys at all. The thought of having my income shift as a result of something completely out of my control is not at all appealing

$5 submissions · 10-21-2014, 06:07 PM

Watch out for that UPSTREAM hit. Solution: don't be lazy and add more TIERS

Also, lazy guest posting penalty is actually now part of the algo. WATCH OUT!

xXXtesy10 · 10-21-2014, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

wow it is really you, wtf, i am in love ...

no but is neighbor if you like

mopek1 · 10-22-2014, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

nice troll

I thought so too.

Darkcrni · 10-22-2014, 08:10 AM

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adultmobile · 10-22-2014, 05:30 PM

Penguin 3.0 can be cheated. Example search for "free nude webcams"

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...ogle.com&cad=h

6 out of 10 first page results, including #1 are blackhat SEO redirects by a same guy:

#1 http://taxreliefcentral.com/live-nude-webcams-free -> bongacams
#5 http://smartautofinancemadison.com/a...cams-free-nude -> bongacams
#6 http://smartautofinancemadison.com/1...e-nude-webcams -> bongacams
#7 http://penyesmales.es/free-nude-webcams-live -> bongacams
#8 http://hagplan.fr/freenude-webcams -> bongacams
#9 http://burgeranddestroy.com/tz/free-...amsterdam.html -> bongacams

Most of page #2 results are same bonga redirector guy too...

mopek1 · 10-22-2014, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Penguin 3.0 can be cheated. Example search for "free nude webcams"

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...ogle.com&cad=h

6 out of 10 first page results, including #1 are blackhat SEO redirects by a same guy:

#1 http://taxreliefcentral.com/live-nude-webcams-free -> bongacams
#5 http://smartautofinancemadison.com/a...cams-free-nude -> bongacams
#6 http://smartautofinancemadison.com/1...e-nude-webcams -> bongacams
#7 http://penyesmales.es/free-nude-webcams-live -> bongacams
#8 http://hagplan.fr/freenude-webcams -> bongacams
#9 http://burgeranddestroy.com/tz/free-...amsterdam.html -> bongacams

Most of page #2 results are same bonga redirector guy too...

I see his pages too.

Google really is all about the 'user experience'

Relentless · 10-22-2014, 05:42 PM

Having the penalties be immediate, but the credit for disavowing bad links only added at the end of each refresh is idiocy. Much too easy to link bomb competitors presently and much slower to overcome than it should be.

DamageX · 10-23-2014, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Penguin 3.0 can be cheated.

Any algo can be cheated, as long as it's human-made.

arock10 · 10-23-2014, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JA$ON

I dont envy search guys at all. The thought of having my income shift as a result of something completely out of my control is not at all appealing

This, I stopped fucking with seo ages ago and can now sleep at night

adultmobile · 10-23-2014, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Any algo can be cheated, as long as it's human-made.

Sure but.. well...

DamageX · 10-23-2014, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Sure but.. well...

But what?

Jel · 10-23-2014, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

But what?

But:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTrollkien

Don't listen to 99%+ of the SEO bull and instead follow Matt Cutts advice of "Write for the user, not the engine".

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10-22-2014, 05:42 PM	#19
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10-21-2014, 09:12 AM	#1
Yo Adrian Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,326	Google Penguin 3.0 Pros and Cons The newest Penguin started rolling out on Friday and there's already loads of case studies and articles being written up about its effects. But it's too soon to determine anything really as this is going to be a slow roll out. Cons - A Googler posted on G+ that this roll out will take a few weeks. So we won't know the true impact for some time. - This is a refresh, not an update. That means even if you were able to dodge the last cleansing, you might not be so lucky this time around. Pros This is a refresh, not an update. That means all of the work you put into cleaning up your backlink profiles may finally pay off. A number of my clients have already started to see a rebound, of course it's still too soon to determine the final effects. __________________ Adult SEO Partners - Full service Adult SEO Agency serving some of the biggest names in the industry.

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MrTrollkien So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 2,360	Don't listen to 99%+ of the SEO bull and instead follow Matt Cutts advice of "Write for the user, not the engine". If you have unique content of value, marked up semantically, with no dead internal links (they are more forgiving of dead outgoings), with natural organic backlinks by people who actually are interested in your content -- there shouldn't have EVER been nor will there ever be a Google algo' update that should worry you or have anything but a positive impact on your site. BUT, if you've abused numbered headings for "weight" instead of "structure", keyword stuffed, abused/incorrectly used META, content-cloaked, have little if anything resembling semantics, signed up for link farms, paid for backlinks, loaded up on slow loading "gee ain't it neat" scripttardery, added further slow-loading presentational images for nothing crap... Well... In that case you get what's coming to you. Honestly it's fun watching the sleazy scam artist SEO types run around like chickens with their heads cut off every time Google announces an algo' update; almost immediately followed by ad-hominem attacks against Matt Cutts. You'd think they had a personal vendetta against the guy who's job it is to slap down people for attempting to abuse the system or something.

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tiramisu Isaac W Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 393	Agreed everything except keyword stuffing. U gotta do good research of what you wanna pursue for, then put it in a smart readable way in the title and body tags so it looks natural but same time has the potential to grab more keyword market share. Just going blindly thinking writing a topic or just add contents and think I have zillions of pages of contents and why de heck my site dont grow? Duh, how could google possibly understand without reading ur keywords and determine what to rank? In the end, not having to prepare only will hurt conversion and will never give u full exposure in the ocean of google.

10-21-2014, 04:43 PM	#12
JA$ON Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: I'm from Downtown....Im from Mitch & Murry Posts: 1,329	I dont envy search guys at all. The thought of having my income shift as a result of something completely out of my control is not at all appealing

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