Would you choose .net or .co for an ecommerce domain name? - GoFuckYourself.com

Clay · 12-08-2014, 03:44 AM

for a mainstream store and .com and .org are taken
I can buy is.net and .co

.com and .co have nothing on them so no competition there, but I dont want to overpay.

Would you choose .net or.co?

EddyTheDog · 12-08-2014, 03:47 AM

If you are selling gay sex I think I still have gaysex.co - 'Gay is the new Black'...

suesheboy · 12-08-2014, 04:00 AM

If you don't get the .com you have a huge traffic leak in your branding.

That said .co is insane. .Net is more realistic.

Clay · 12-08-2014, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

If you don't get the .com you have a huge traffic leak in your branding.

That said .co is insane. .Net is more realistic.

thanks, .com is for sale for a very high price but and no one one is doing anything on it for a long time. im hoping that if the .net starts to grow and make money then ill put investment on .com

thanks

stoka · 12-08-2014, 04:17 AM

it's an estore, not a feeder
com or nothing

bluebook18 · 12-08-2014, 04:20 AM

.net is way better than .co

dynamomagic873 · 12-08-2014, 06:29 AM

.net because .co is used for uk and ireland...

Alex21 · 12-08-2014, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dynamomagic873

.net because .co is used for uk and ireland...

.co = Colombia
.co.uk = UK
.ie = Ireland

As you can see I am very worldly.... not really.. A lifetime on IRC so I know em all off by heart

Alex21 · 12-08-2014, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clay

for a mainstream store and .com and .org are taken
I can buy is.net and .co

.com and .co have nothing on them so no competition there, but I dont want to overpay.

Would you choose .net or.co?

neither.. would avoid .net for a store.. even more would avoid .co
Could always pre/postcede with words like "buy" "shop" "store" "sale" etc.
Bottom line .com is the way to go.. use a hyphen if you -absolutely- have to or think of another name.

Nevertheless, might be risky putting $$/effort into the .net hoping to pickup the .com from them later.

RummyBoy · 12-08-2014, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

If you don't get the .com you have a huge traffic leak in your branding.

That said .co is insane. .Net is more realistic.

The questions to ask:

(1) Has he ever run an online business before?
(2) If yes to (1), did he ever run it on a domain like a .co or a .net?
(3) If yes to (2), did he ever find that he lost all his customers to the .com
(4) If yes to (3), did he then regret using a domain other than the .com
(5) If yes to (4), then why did he start a business on a domain other than a .com?
(6) If no to (4), then he probably didn't have enough traffic to lose any custom.

It's been said time and time again, NEVER ever start an online project (except in rare situations where its a very limited thing like a non-online business with a simple web presence) on a domain that is not .com - you will regret it.

If you get any kind of traffic, whether its .net or .co, you will lose a large proportion of your traffic to the .com because people will NEVER remember the extension and will always just assume your site is .com

Again, what I say is valid if you expect a large online presence with high traffic to your site. A much, much better option would be to choose something available or just add a number at the end of the word and then put a .com and then brand that as your online store. At least it's a dot com.

RummyBoy · 12-08-2014, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex21

Nevertheless, might be risky putting $$/effort into the .net hoping to pickup the .com from them later.

Yes, very risky - infact, it's a bad idea.... many of us own .coms which receive traffic from people who own the .co or the .net or the .org or some other extension.

As soon as the owner sees traffic at his .com coming from mis-types of your domain, the price will go up and if he is earning anything from your traffic (and your marketing money), the price will go even higher and it will really irritate you that he is making easy money from your own efforts/spending.

Wizzo · 12-08-2014, 07:43 AM

There's tons of new tlds, maybe look for one that is relevant to your product and won't have people going to the dot Com by mistake.

XXXtrailers · 12-08-2014, 07:46 AM

Change the name and buy com.

arocaro659 · 12-08-2014, 07:48 AM

.net is for those who wanna evolve in future. You must buy a domain if you want be .com

RummyBoy · 12-08-2014, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by arocaro659

.net is for those who wanna evolve in future. You must buy a domain if you want be .com

Sure and maybe .net is the second best as an alternative but you still lose traffic. End of the day, how many major big traffic sites out of the top 1000 sites are run on something other than a dot com where, at the same time, that company doesn't also own the dot com?

I'm sure it would be less than 2%

suesheboy · 12-08-2014, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Clay

thanks, .com is for sale for a very high price but and no one one is doing anything on it for a long time. im hoping that if the .net starts to grow and make money then ill put investment on .com

thanks

Mistake.

Once the .Net gets "big" the person owning the .com now knows the .Com is worth even more.

What is your idea of a high price?

Clay · 12-08-2014, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

Mistake.

Once the .Net gets "big" the person owning the .com now knows the .Com is worth even more.

What is your idea of a high price?

over $1,000, based on a whim with NO idea if it will make any money.

freecartoonporn · 12-08-2014, 09:48 AM

are you kidding ?, for estore and mainstream .com is the only option.
huge traffic/potential customers leak.

if yiu cant afford the .com
choose another one.....

Best-In-BC · 12-08-2014, 09:53 AM

the extension doesn't matter anymore IMO

suesheboy · 12-09-2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Clay

over $1,000, based on a whim with NO idea if it will make any money.

If you are not willing to risk $1,000 (unless you don't have the cash), the idea is probably not that great.

Is the domain good enough that you could "dump it" if you fail and get at least 1/2 of it back?

BlackCrayon · 12-09-2014, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo

There's tons of new tlds, maybe look for one that is relevant to your product and won't have people going to the dot Com by mistake.

you'll still have that problem. com is the defacto tld. you can have whatever.net or what.ever and people will still put .com at the end.

if i were the OP i would try and be creative and find some similar names that either aren't taken or able to be acquired for a reasonable price rather than use anything other than .com.

suesheboy · 12-09-2014, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

you'll still have that problem. com is the defacto tld. you can have whatever.net or what.ever and people will still put .com at the end.

if i were the OP i would try and be creative and find some similar names that either aren't taken or able to be acquired for a reasonable price rather than use anything other than .com.

This.

In my opinion having a new TLD for branding can be a great move IF you own the .com as well.

Overstock.com dropped the O.Co concept. Search for O.co and Overstock.com is the default.

Barry-xlovecam · 12-09-2014, 09:55 AM

Trademark the name -- the dot com cannot win a UDRP

Compare this cost (trademark and arbitration) against buying the com version of the name you want.

If the name costs less that $9,000 buy that domain registration or look for a name that you can register in dot com and pay to trademark that name now ** (added: when that venture makes real money) so it can't be registered in any new gTLD.

Nice accelerated tax deduction for 2014 ...

BlackCrayon · 12-09-2014, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Trademark the name -- the dot com cannot win a UDRP

Compare this cost (trademark and arbitration) against buying the com version of the name you want.

If the name costs less that $9,000 buy that domain registration or look for a name that you can register in dot com and pay to trademark that name now so it can't be registered in any new gTLD.

Nice accelerated tax deduction for 2014 ...

just so no one gets confused, you can't trademark something and then think that gives you rights to a domain name registered before the trademark. if your trademark comes before the domain, you may have some chance but certainly not after the domain registration.

Clay · 12-09-2014, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dynamomagic873

.net because .co is used for uk and ireland...

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluebook18

.net is way better than .co

thanks thats what I thought too

edgeprod · 12-09-2014, 10:30 AM

No. 8char

Barry-xlovecam · 12-09-2014, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

just so no one gets confused, you can't trademark something and then think that gives you rights to a domain name registered before the trademark. if your trademark comes before the domain, you may have some chance but certainly not after the domain registration.

No you can't prove bad faith.

WIPO Domain Name Decision: D2010-2011

BUT;

WIPO Domain Name Decision: D2007-1921

If you transfer that domain to a third party, that transfer would be encumbered with the infringement in bad faith if the domain is used for cybersquatting.

Quote:

WIPO Domain Name Decision: D2007-0062
B. Respondent

The Respondent8 notes that the disputed domain name originally was registered by Peter Bradford, purportedly a Canadian citizen, some three and one-half (3 ½) years before the Complainant established trademark rights in CREDITKEEPER through USPTO registration. The Respondent argues that it cannot be disputed that the Complainant adopted its trademarks with full knowledge that the disputed domain name already had been registered The Respondent asserts that the central issue in the dispute therefore is one of priority. ...

...7. Decision

For all the foregoing reasons, in accordance with Paragraphs 4(i) of the Policy and 15 of the Rules, the Panel orders that the domain name, <creditkeeper.com> be transferred to the Complainant.

I would have to spend time I haven't got now reading the whole decision but these look favorable.

slapass · 12-09-2014, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RummyBoy

The questions to ask:

(1) Has he ever run an online business before?
(2) If yes to (1), did he ever run it on a domain like a .co or a .net?
(3) If yes to (2), did he ever find that he lost all his customers to the .com
(4) If yes to (3), did he then regret using a domain other than the .com
(5) If yes to (4), then why did he start a business on a domain other than a .com?
(6) If no to (4), then he probably didn't have enough traffic to lose any custom.

It's been said time and time again, NEVER ever start an online project (except in rare situations where its a very limited thing like a non-online business with a simple web presence) on a domain that is not .com - you will regret it.

If you get any kind of traffic, whether its .net or .co, you will lose a large proportion of your traffic to the .com because people will NEVER remember the extension and will always just assume your site is .com

Again, what I say is valid if you expect a large online presence with high traffic to your site. A much, much better option would be to choose something available or just add a number at the end of the word and then put a .com and then brand that as your online store. At least it's a dot com.

This is all true.

InfoGuy · 12-09-2014, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

the extension doesn't matter anymore IMO

So says the cheapskate trying to brand a variation of "hardcore" with 3 digits.

To the OP, stick with .com If you can't find the right keywords, look for another .com alternative. Weigh the tradeoffs of making a one time investment in a quality memorable name vs. perpetually wasting your time, effort and marketing budget branding a .net, .co or other TLD.

420 · 12-09-2014, 05:38 PM

I would choose a different .com or a good single word .randomextension.

Barry-xlovecam · 12-09-2014, 05:45 PM

Define e-commerce?

If you are going to do $millions a year potentially be careful of the branding name of the site and TLD.

If we are talking a white label, amazon, ebay or yahoo store, or some affiliate site then there is a lot of leeway in the domain name and TLD.

BlackCrayon · 12-09-2014, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

No you can't prove bad faith.

WIPO Domain Name Decision: D2010-2011

BUT;

WIPO Domain Name Decision: D2007-1921

If you transfer that domain to a third party, that transfer would be encumbered with the infringement in bad faith if the domain is used for cybersquatting.

I would have to spend time I haven't got now reading the whole decision but these look favorable.

udrp is a poor system that favors complainants as they pay them. if people didn't win some, no one would use it. some panelists are total morons and will hand over domains when they have no business doing so. always go for a 3 panel if you ever get one against you.

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