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Old 01-21-2015, 08:34 PM   #1
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how many customers will a new restaurant get these days?

How many customers is a realistic goal for a high quality restaurant these days?
If you were starting a new restaurant today, high quality hardcore exclusive food what would be a realistic number of customers to be at a year later?

Don't reply with 'how long is a piece of string?' I'm not talking about some outlier of a unique restaurant, the way chipolte was I'm talking about a restaurant with food that is really good, appeals to a wide audience but not 'wow i never tasted like that'.
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How many customers is a realistic goal for a high quality restaurant these days?
If you were starting a new restaurant today, high quality hardcore exclusive food what would be a realistic number of customers to be at a year later?

Don't reply with 'how long is a piece of string?' I'm not talking about some outlier of a unique restaurant, the way chipolte was I'm talking about a restaurant with food that is really good, appeals to a wide audience but not 'wow i never tasted like that'.
Enough so that their number, multiplied by average revenue per customer, results in a number significantly greater than the expense required to serve them and pay the fixed costs of the restaurant.
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:51 PM   #4
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How many customers is a realistic goal for a high quality restaurant these days?
If you were starting a new restaurant today, high quality hardcore exclusive food what would be a realistic number of customers to be at a year later?

Don't reply with 'how long is a piece of string?' I'm not talking about some outlier of a unique restaurant, the way chipolte was I'm talking about a restaurant with food that is really good, appeals to a wide audience but not 'wow i never tasted like that'.
If this question is serious, then write me directly. There are a number of questions that you would need to find the answer to, and I would be happy to lead you in the right direction (without the attitude)
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Why don't you work it the other way around? How much would you need to break even?

(*) All provided numbers are an estimate to give a general idea and may change a lot depending on location, experience and your skillset.

1) You would need minimum 20 dishes before opening (which you mentioned as high quality)
a) You cook yourself without extra: 500$ x 20 = 10000$
b) You don't cook yourself or pay extras: 1000$ x 20 = 20000$

2) New dishes (you mentioned always exclusive and high quality) (monthly)
a) You cook yourself without extra: 500$ x 4 = 2000$
b) You don't cook yourself or pay extras: 1000$ x 4 = 4000$

3) Location (monthly)
a) unmanaged: 50$
b) semi-managed: 150$
c) managed: 450$

4) Dish update (cook, produce and serve) (monthly)
a) Yourself: Free
b) Cook/Produce or Serve by someone else: 400$/800$
c) All done by someone else: 800$/1600$

5) Menu design and general design (monthly)
a) Yourself: Free
b) Mid-range: 400$
c) Mid-range: 800$

6) Billing (monthly) (the choice will have an effect on your final profit %)
a) Third-party with Visa/MC: 100$
b) Your own billing account: Free

7) Other partnerships (dish trade, advertising, partnership, etc.) (monthly)
a) None or trades without expenses: Free
b) Some: 200$
c) A lot: 500$

8) Other general expenses (lawyer, themes, tools, etc.) (monthly)
a) Minimal: 50$
b) Some: 100$
c) A lot: 250$+

9) Advertising (monthly)
a) In-house + affiliates: Free
b) Some bought: 100$
c) A lot bought: 500$+


Answer these, calculate your monthly expenses, calculate your # of required member to break even then ask your question again. At the moment there are way to many unknowns. Adjust all numbers to your closest expectations and you'll have a good overview.

Then answer these:

10) Will it be part of an existing restaurant chain
a) Yes: More sales
b) No: Less sales

11) What ratio do you expect
a) 1:500
b) 1:1000
c) 1:2500
d) Other (specify)
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Why don't you work it the other way around? How much would you need to break even?

(*) All provided numbers are an estimate to give a general idea and may change a lot depending on location, experience and your skillset.

1) You would need minimum 20 dishes before opening (which you mentioned as high quality)
a) You cook yourself without extra: 500$ x 20 = 10000$
b) You don't cook yourself or pay extras: 1000$ x 20 = 20000$

2) New dishes (you mentioned always exclusive and high quality) (monthly)
a) You cook yourself without extra: 500$ x 4 = 2000$
b) You don't cook yourself or pay extras: 1000$ x 4 = 4000$

3) Location (monthly)
a) unmanaged: 50$
b) semi-managed: 150$
c) managed: 450$

4) Dish update (cook, produce and serve) (monthly)
a) Yourself: Free
b) Cook/Produce or Serve by someone else: 400$/800$
c) All done by someone else: 800$/1600$

5) Menu design and general design (monthly)
a) Yourself: Free
b) Mid-range: 400$
c) Mid-range: 800$

6) Billing (monthly) (the choice will have an effect on your final profit %)
a) Third-party with Visa/MC: 100$
b) Your own billing account: Free

7) Other partnerships (dish trade, advertising, partnership, etc.) (monthly)
a) None or trades without expenses: Free
b) Some: 200$
c) A lot: 500$

8) Other general expenses (lawyer, themes, tools, etc.) (monthly)
a) Minimal: 50$
b) Some: 100$
c) A lot: 250$+

9) Advertising (monthly)
a) In-house + affiliates: Free
b) Some bought: 100$
c) A lot bought: 500$+


Answer these, calculate your monthly expenses, calculate your # of required member to break even then ask your question again. At the moment there are way to many unknowns. Adjust all numbers to your closest expectations and you'll have a good overview.

Then answer these:

10) Will it be part of an existing restaurant chain
a) Yes: More sales
b) No: Less sales

11) What ratio do you expect
a) 1:500
b) 1:1000
c) 1:2500
d) Other (specify)
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:05 PM   #8
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42.

The answer is always 42.
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42.

The answer is always 42.
Wrong. The answer is always three.
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I wouldn't open up a new restaurant on my own unless I had a bottomless pit of money to throw at it. Too risky.

However, a new place opened up here in town and ironically.... It's a Hawaiian shaved ice desert thing. I thought it be would similar to a yogurt place but it's much nicer. It's packed every night.
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Restaurant would probably be at the bottom of my list of shit to start/invest in as people suck.
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Wrong. The answer is always three.
But does 3 go into 42? Is 3 a prime number of 42?
I'm terrible at math. I think I have like math dyslexia or something. Thank God for computers. :D

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Why own a restaurant when you could just become an affiliate of one?

Meet the pizza-preneur who made $50,000 in four months selling customised Domino’s pizzas through Facebook

All that's needed is a some smart online marketing and your in business..
Please note the affiliate did not give away one pizza ever to make his 12k a month, I guess that marketing techique is left to the business models that have " evolved "
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How many customers is a realistic goal for a high quality restaurant these days?
If you were starting a new restaurant today, high quality hardcore exclusive food what would be a realistic number of customers to be at a year later?

Don't reply with 'how long is a piece of string?' I'm not talking about some outlier of a unique restaurant, the way chipolte was I'm talking about a restaurant with food that is really good, appeals to a wide audience but not 'wow i never tasted like that'.
You are piece of shit mental retarded.
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21 is the right answer.
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the taste of the masses is shit.
Start a low quality place serving shit food, it'll be packed every night.
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Don't forget about the mega restaurant down the road, that will steal all your produce & dishes, and give it all away for free in order to entice people interested in restaurants into their crockery and cutlery shop, to sell them plates and kitchen equipment...
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appeals to a wide audience but not 'wow i never tasted like that'.
It's great to have lofty goals.
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42.

The answer is always 42.






Spooky. This board will only allow 21 images, which is half of 42 and thus half of the answer.
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Alot has to do with location. Where i am a new restaurant pops up its swamped for a week. If you can give good food and great service you will stay busy. if not you are done in 2 months
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I sometimes tend to agree with you here
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