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Old 03-27-2015, 03:31 PM   #1
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BO caves in to key Iranian nuke demands

the Obama administration?s ?revisions? to the Iranian nuclear deal include abandoning crucial demands for U.N. inspection of suspected weapons sites that Iran has been resisting for years, even during the toughest of economic sanctions.



Obama's Latest Concession to Iran: Inspection Demands 'Revised' Down - Breitbart
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Old 03-27-2015, 05:36 PM   #2
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what a cluster fuck ...

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[I]srael and France seem to have little leverage with Obama. Indeed, Obama probably feels delighted that Prime Minister Netanyahu is unhappy.

Saudi Arabia might be another matter. In fact, the Saudis may already have thrown a monkey wrench into the deal. The Washington Free Beacon reports that, as condition of any deal, Iran is demanding that Saudi Arabia immediately halt airstrikes in Yemen. According to WFB reporter Adam Kredo, ?the issue could complicate the talks, as the United States attempts to balance its regional alliance with Iran in Iraq against competing interests with traditional allies in Saudi Arabia.? ...

Saudi Arabia throws a monkey wrench into Obama’s Iran deal | Power Line
Playing both ends against the middle?

I think the Iranians are making impossible demands just so they can negotiate for another year with less sanctions and advance their agenda in the Middle East. Yemen is another of the Ayatollah's proxy wars. 10 Arab States have formed a coalition to return control to the elected Yemeni government who is allied right now with Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. So, who is better the Shiite Houthis or Sunni Al-Qaeda. Terrorist A or Terrorist B?
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Old 03-27-2015, 06:28 PM   #3
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Nuke, rinse and repeat. Problem solved.
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:16 AM   #4
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Playing both ends against the middle?

I think the Iranians are making impossible demands just so they can negotiate for another year with less sanctions and advance their agenda in the Middle East. Yemen is another of the Ayatollah's proxy wars. 10 Arab States have formed a coalition to return control to the elected Yemeni government who is allied right now with Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. So, who is better the Shiite Houthis or Sunni Al-Qaeda. Terrorist A or Terrorist B?
good points, for me, it seems to make sense to go with neither, but that's not going to happen so i'd choose to go with the radicals that we don't make a nuclear deal with via executive order. especially when the USA deal maker is bowing down to ridiculous demands.

we have a jr. politician negotiating a nuke deal with a proven untrusted nation and he's going around congress to do it while saying OK, we don't need to inspect your facility that you built to weaponize nuke materials.

that's about as fucking stupid as it gets.
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:24 AM   #5
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Is the US supporting those " rebels " ???
Is it asking Saudia Arabia to stop meddling in the sovereign Yemen, after the coup ?
Will it send " non-lethal" military gear to Yemen ?

trying to follow here ....
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:26 AM   #6
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Is the US supporting those " rebels " ???
Is it asking Saudia Arabia to stop meddling in the sovereign Yemen, after the coup ?
Will it send " non-lethal" military gear to Yemen ?

trying to follow here ....
SA going military on Yemen is an entirely new and different matter from BO caving to the iranians on a nuke deal.

don't get me wrong, it's also a big deal but it is not directly related to this topic.
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What is even weirder is that the Sunni Arab Coalition ( Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the Gulf States) that are bombing and preparing a ground invasion on the Shiite Houthis and the former Yemeni dictatorship, that were once fighting each other, with this Arab coalition's foreign policy stand toward Iran now aligning with the Israeli foreign policy position toward Iran.

Strange bedfellows but Iran presents a existential danger to all of their governments.

So who's side is the USA on? The Iranian hostage takers and their mob that chants "Death to America" at the Ayatollah's command?
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:42 AM   #8
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What is even weirder is that the Sunni Arab Coalition ( Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the Gulf States) that are bombing and preparing a ground invasion on the Shiite Houthis and the former Yemeni dictatorship, that were once fighting each other, with this Arab coalition's foreign policy stand toward Iran now aligning with the Israeli foreign policy position toward Iran.

Strange bedfellows but Iran presents a existential danger to all of their governments.

So who's side is the USA on? The Iranian hostage takers and their mob that chants "Death to America" at the Ayatollah's command?
simple solution- we bomb the fuck out of the IRan nuke facilities. problem solved.
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IMO nothing wrong would happen if Iran have nuclear weapon. Persians are peaceful nation
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IMO nothing wrong would happen if Iran have nuclear weapon. Persians are peaceful nation
except there is no persia, it's been gone for, what, 50-60 years now? prolly longer. not to mention their history of trying to weaponize nuke materials. not to mention more countries with more nukes is not better, it's worse, much much worse.
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What is even weirder is that the Sunni Arab Coalition ( Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the Gulf States) that are bombing and preparing a ground invasion on the Shiite Houthis and the former Yemeni dictatorship, that were once fighting each other, with this Arab coalition's foreign policy stand toward Iran now aligning with the Israeli foreign policy position toward Iran.

Strange bedfellows but Iran presents a existential danger to all of their governments.

So who's side is the USA on? The Iranian hostage takers and their mob that chants "Death to America" at the Ayatollah's command?
I see the joining of the Arab states on the Yemen situation as a precursor to the joining of the Arab states on the Iran situation. There are a dozen states with plenty of money, resources, and no sanctions in that region that could work together to solve their common problem. Whether they will or not is a completely different beast. It took them way too long to get involved with ISIS, it is hard to imagine that they would do something meaningful against a state as powerful as Iran, but we shall see.
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That's because the US is working with IRAN..... something that will bite them in ass down the line no doubt

If you don't get it, here's a nice video explanation of what's doing down right now:

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Wait, Whose Side Are We On Again? - The Daily Show - Video Clip | Comedy Central
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funny clip ... and true.

Basically, the USA are on the side of $$$$ ( forget freedom, democracy and all that shit ... ) .

Saudia Arabia are bombing a sovereign country that the a revolution and ousted their unpopular president, that was siding with the West.

What would have happened if Russia would have bombed Kiev after the coup that pousted their unpopular president that was siding with the East ?

The policy has ... no policy
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