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Old 07-15-2015, 08:43 PM   #1
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I will never understand how anyone can live without marijuana

I started smoking when I was 14 and never quit. I smoke all day long and before I go to bed. I love it. People seem more interesting, food tastes better, sleep is deeper, sex is better, mornings are happy, I am much more creative, and aches and pains are soothed.

So anyway I thought it might be good for me to stop for a few months so I can lose weight. I made it a little over 2 days. By the 2nd day I was a wreck from zero sleep and feeling like I wanted to tear someone's head off. I just picked up some Deep Space Indica and a large bottle of chocolate milk. I feel normal again. Anyone else find they just prefer to be high all the time? By the way the only method to stay high seems to be buying the best o the best and switching out strains every few days.
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LOL, I do, but when you quit its the first two to three-days that are tuff, then the sleep is just the problem for a short bit. I smoke it cause I cant focus worth a shit unless I do, and by focus I mean work steady.
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I don't understand why anyone would want to be high all the time.
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I don't know man - anything you want that bad, that mankind didn't evolve doing .... I would try to go two months.
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i discovered that mixing quality works equally good if not better than mixing strains. i get an oz of bottom shelf weed, grown in America, not that dirt mexican weed, but ~$100/0z shitthat's ~14% thc. and i'll snag an 1/8 of top shelf, like jet fuel OG or herradura, ~30%. i'll smoke the good shit when we're about to bang or watch a flick, etc, but chillax on the bottom shelf weed most the time. both get stoney, the top-shelf does hit harder, much stonier, but not if i'm schmoking it exclusively. when i schmoke only top shelf, i never really feel the punch.
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i discovered that mixing quality works equally good if not better than mixing strains. i get an oz of bottom shelf weed, grown in America, not that dirt mexican weed, but ~$100/0z shitthat's ~14% thc. and i'll snag an 1/8 of top shelf, like jet fuel OG or herradura, ~30%. i'll smoke the good shit when we're about to bang or watch a flick, etc, but chillax on the bottom shelf weed most the time. both get stoney, the top-shelf does hit harder, much stonier, but not if i'm schmoking it exclusively. when i schmoke only top shelf, i never really feel the punch.
Yeah if it's hard (or impossible) to cut out all smoking for a few days then mixing quality is much better than mixing top shelf strains. That's just a waste of $$$.

Even daily smokers need less than they think they do.
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If you tried to stop and feel like shit you definitely have a problem. I was the same way. This October will be 2 years since I quit and it was the best decision I ever made. I've been smoking since 14 as well, from the morning to when I went to sleep. I wish I could smoke occasionally but it's just not possible for me.
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I personally don't like the way it makes me feel. I'm one of those people who get really lazy and overly paranoid when I smoke. In other words, it's not fun for me so I avoid it. It affects everyone different. I know people that can't live without it and people like me who are worthless on it. To each their own.
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I started smoking when I was 14 and never quit. I smoke all day long and before I go to bed. I love it. People seem more interesting, food tastes better, sleep is deeper, sex is better, mornings are happy, I am much more creative, and aches and pains are soothed.

So anyway I thought it might be good for me to stop for a few months so I can lose weight. I made it a little over 2 days. By the 2nd day I was a wreck from zero sleep and feeling like I wanted to tear someone's head off. I just picked up some Deep Space Indica and a large bottle of chocolate milk. I feel normal again. Anyone else find they just prefer to be high all the time? By the way the only method to stay high seems to be buying the best o the best and switching out strains every few days.
Your body is an amazing machine. You were built to adapt to your environment and you're so good at it with weed that you have to switch up strains to still get high.

2 weeks to break any habbit.

Dose yourself down slowly over 1 week and find something new to do EVERY DAY that you haven't done before.

You need to man up and know that change IS NOT COMFORTABLE. Giving birth to new life feels like near death, but you deserve a better life, bring it into your existence. Too much of a good thing is not a good thing bro. You will do this.
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Your body is an amazing machine. You were built to adapt to your environment and you're so good at it with weed that you have to switch up strains to still get high.

2 weeks to break any habbit.

Dose yourself down slowly over 1 week and find something new to do EVERY DAY that you haven't done before.

You need to man up and know that change IS NOT COMFORTABLE. Giving birth to new life feels like near death, but you deserve a better life, bring it into your existence. Too much of a good thing is not a good thing bro. You will do this.
You pretty much described what I went through.
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You pretty much described what I went through.
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yeah if you stopped and felt like shit you do have a problem - you're addicted. addicted in terms that your perceive high as being normal state and want to continue being in this state

the shit feeling is withdrawal effect same as tobacco users go through or with every other drug.
I for instance, after doing pack a day of cigarettes for over a decade, after I stopped smoking I felt like shit 3-4 month with headaches, mood and blood pressure swings.. eventually it normalized.

if you are a heavy MJ smoker for several years who is trying to stop smoking, get ready for a wild ride as it will hold you by the balls and squeeze 'em hard so to speak yeah it's not physically addictive though but it is a mind-screwing experience or unscrewing )

anything is good in moderation, mostly anything.
if you can't go on without something - that an addition, it's an issue of being weak, except for some rare medical conditions.
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yeah if you stopped and felt like shit you do have a problem - you're addicted. addicted in terms that your perceive high as being normal state and want to continue being in this state

the shit feeling is withdrawal effect same as tobacco users go through or with every other drug.
I for instance, after doing pack a day of cigarettes for over a decade, after I stopped smoking I felt like shit 3-4 month with headaches, mood and blood pressure swings.. eventually it normalized.

if you are a heavy MJ smoker for several years who is trying to stop smoking, get ready for a wild ride as it will hold you by the balls and squeeze 'em hard so to speak yeah it's not physically addictive though but it is a mind-screwing experience or unscrewing )

anything is good in moderation, mostly anything.
if you can't go on without something - that an addition, it's an issue of being weak, except for some rare medical conditions.
He stopped for 2 days. He's not addicted.

To be an addict to you have to be physically and mentally dependant on a substance.

Stopping for 2 days shows no mental dependence, the only reason he started again was due to the discomfort of physical withdrawal.

I agree it will be a wild fucking ride but if a woman can squeeze a big baby through her tiny little pussy and live, Vikingman can pull a trainspotting and put weed in it's place
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He stopped for 2 days. He's not addicted.

To be an addict to you have to be physically and mentally dependant on a substance.

Stopping for 2 days shows no mental dependence, the only reason he started again was due to the discomfort of physical withdrawal.

I agree it will be a wild fucking ride but if a woman can squeeze a big baby through her tiny little pussy and live, Vikingman can pull a trainspotting and put weed in it's place
if during those 48 hours he did not even think about lighting it up again - than yeah not an addiction you sure a thought haven't crossed his mind even once? I'd tend to think those 2 days probably been a mind battle. of course we can only speculate what when on in OP's head during those two days
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What helped: exercise, eating healthy, making an effort to socialize while sober, new friends, volunteering for charity work.

And you're wrong, you can definitely be addicted to weed. Addiction doesn't require a physical or chemical dependence. That's bullshit. If so, we wouldn't have gambling, sex and video game asdicts, workaholics etc.
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So anyway I thought it might be good for me to stop for a few months so I can lose weight.
its easier to diet baked than diet while craving bake. count calories & go hiking baked & you got the best of both worlds.

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It helps for pain...will never quit. enough said..
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He stopped for 2 days. He's not addicted.

To be an addict to you have to be physically and mentally dependant on a substance.

Stopping for 2 days shows no mental dependence, the only reason he started again was due to the discomfort of physical withdrawal.

I agree it will be a wild fucking ride but if a woman can squeeze a big baby through her tiny little pussy and live, Vikingman can pull a trainspotting and put weed in it's place
Not to split hairs, but I think he is definitely addicted, stopped for two days and couldn't sleep / mood swings - physical and mental dependency shown right there mate.
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I grew up in Canada. I had access to great weed all the time! I smoked every day. I thought it made me more focused, creative and not to mention a Hell of a lot more patient and nicer. It definitely makes soar tummies and joints disappear better than any narcotic. As a rule I do not like to take any medication. I do not trust that particular type of science.

That said I moved to the Philippines where for $25 I can have almost 2 ounces of weed but it is awful! To get good weed here it is in the vicinity of 2,500 pesos a GRAM which is about $55 sometimes more. (Yes stoners from the surfer beaches in the Philippines I know there are cheaper solutions but not so easy to come by.)

Sooooooooooo I stopped. Weed is not an addictive substance. No one dies from smoking it. There are not withdrawal symptoms. Just simply I stopped. When there is good weed offered I am happy to partake but it is more on the weekends and to chill out, as well as VERY rare.

What did I find? Yes the way I focused changed but I was still focused and creative and getting my work done. I did not need it to function, I just liked to function that way. Jury is out on whether or not I am as nice without it...

If you tried living here though you would know that my patience is also tested in a totally different way so I like to think that has not changed either lol

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Drugs, weed and others, are good for prying women and doing bad things; makes it all easier.

but...

I don't like people that do drugs or smoke pot all the time. If you can still be productive while doing it fine, chances are you could do a lot better without it.

This feeling came about a friend I had to cut loose because he had to have weed everyday and it caused him to live with his father, he couldn't do anything else because he had to have that weed and it cost a lot of money.

With the exception of a few friends I refuse to talk to most people I grew up with, living hundreds of miles away helps with this.
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sounds like youre heavily addicted, great success...
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He stopped for 2 days. He's not addicted.

To be an addict to you have to be physically and mentally dependant on a substance.

Stopping for 2 days shows no mental dependence, the only reason he started again was due to the discomfort of physical withdrawal.
Come on.. if those described are not the signs of addiction, then what is?

Anyways, addiction is always mentally in the end as your brains are the ones those control things and feel things. There is not really such thing as physical addiction (unless you mean eating for living, etc.). Building addiction starts from day one when you do something that gives you pleasure (doesn't have to be "orgasmic"). Vikingman builds his addiction everyday and he couldn't stop it for longer than 2 days (+ read the title). He is addicted. I am not judging, I am just saying.
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Come on.. if those described are not the signs of addiction, then what is?

Anyways, addiction is always mentally in the end as your brains are the ones those control things and feel things. There is not really such thing as physical addiction (unless you mean eating for living, etc.). Building addiction starts from day one when you do something that gives you pleasure (doesn't have to be "orgasmic"). Vikingman builds his addiction everyday and he couldn't stop it for longer than 2 days (+ read the title). He is addicted. I am not judging, I am just saying.

Yea, not being able to quit smoking weed for more than a few days means you are very addicted.
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you are habitually dependant, not physically. there will be a time when you go like "i'm stoned again... meh.. so what". that's the time it stops.

start yoga/meditation or something
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Made a decision to quit drugs a while back.

Saw the misery it creates in countries which produce them and wanted no part of it. Moral decision.

As for taking drugs on a regular basis, I was doing that before a lot here were born. LOL
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sounds not so healthy, and if you need 'best o the best' and switching strains every few days for it to actually work, it sounds like you are having a little too much fun
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He stopped for 2 days. He's not addicted.

To be an addict to you have to be physically and mentally dependant on a substance.

Stopping for 2 days shows no mental dependence, the only reason he started again was due to the discomfort of physical withdrawal.
you just described the definition of 'addiction', as an argument to say it's not an addiction
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by the way people who are addicted to weed (as in not high -> dont feel good) always think they are 'better' when they're high... but reality is, everyone else sees them as how they really are - a lazy, dependant on drugs to function, pothead.
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saying everyone who smokes weed is pothead is a bit ill. same like you say all germans were bloody nazis after the second ww. if i need to work harder, i smoke and work like three days in a row, and then i make much more work what all you non smokers do in one week, so please keep your non experienced experience somewhere else but always depends on the weed, sometime it makes me lazy of course, but it is not like everyone who smokes is lazy non functional pothead heil weed!
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That's called withdrawals.

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Old 07-16-2015, 04:41 AM   #39
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nothing what grows in nature is a drug, it is a plant, or mushroom, or anything else, cocaine, lsd, crack, those are drugs what is here from mother nature, cant be that bad marihuana you just cut, dry and smoke, or make a medicine from it, how can this be bad?
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nothing what grows in nature is a drug, it is a plant, or mushroom, or anything else, cocaine, lsd, crack, those are drugs what is here from mother nature, cant be that bad marihuana you just cut, dry and smoke, or make a medicine from it, how can this be bad?
how about poisonous jellyfish?
ok, it's all about the dosage
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I thought the definition of an addiction to a drug is that it takes more and/or stronger version of the substance to get the feeling you like from the drug, tolerance, and that when the drug isn't available to you there are significant unpleasant physical symptoms. I've seen alcoholics go through the DT's, it's very obvious that alcoholism is a very physical addiction. I don't think cigarettes are really a physical addiction, the withdrawal symptoms aren't serious enough, they are mostly the product of psychological stress.

I think there are behaviors that are both psychological and physical addictions.

Smoking or drinking or doing anything every single day of your life is compulsive behaviour at the very least, whether it's soft drinks, beer, cigarettes, masturbation, weed, running, video gaming - and compulsive behaviour is stress related.
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Old 07-16-2015, 05:16 AM   #42
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I started smoking when I was 14 and never quit. I smoke all day long and before I go to bed. I love it. People seem more interesting, food tastes better, sleep is deeper, sex is better, mornings are happy, I am much more creative, and aches and pains are soothed.

So anyway I thought it might be good for me to stop for a few months so I can lose weight. I made it a little over 2 days. By the 2nd day I was a wreck from zero sleep and feeling like I wanted to tear someone's head off. I just picked up some Deep Space Indica and a large bottle of chocolate milk. I feel normal again. Anyone else find they just prefer to be high all the time? By the way the only method to stay high seems to be buying the best o the best and switching out strains every few days.
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nothing what grows in nature is a drug, it is a plant, or mushroom, or anything else, cocaine, lsd, crack, those are drugs what is here from mother nature, cant be that bad
Typical retarded pothead defense.

You are aware there are plants that kill you if touch or eat them?
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Typical retarded pothead defense.

You are aware there are plants that kill you if touch or eat them?
then dont touch them or eat them, they are good for someone or something else. but chemical made shit is good just for junkies, that is what i am talking about
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after doing it daily for 20 years i am just smoking once in a while now. it feels great not to worry about running out and i feel like i have more energy and actually feel happier. the need to do it daily is a trap.
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I've smoked pot twice my entire life. The first time it gave me a headache, and the second time it was no big deal - I felt silly.

I don't feel the need for anything to enhance my life.
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nothing what grows in nature is a drug, it is a plant, or mushroom, or anything else, cocaine, lsd, crack, those are drugs what is here from mother nature, cant be that bad marihuana you just cut, dry and smoke, or make a medicine from it, how can this be bad?
dude, welcome to life! if you give more thought about it, what is life in general you will see that everything is, basically, synthetic. in this realm, humans can't produce what nature itself can't produce. you can't make something out of nothing.
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I personally don't like the way it makes me feel. I'm one of those people who get really lazy and overly paranoid when I smoke. In other words, it's not fun for me so I avoid it. It affects everyone different. I know people that can't live without it and people like me who are worthless on it. To each their own.


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