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Old 07-17-2015, 02:39 PM   #51
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No one had surface-to-air missiles there except Russians at that time.
Another bullshit. The Ukrainian rebels have captured at least one "BUK". Here is the video:



That's not a regular army unit (no support units, no guard etc).

Also there were 6 active "Spheres" (the Soviet air-defense complex that includes BUK's) of the Ukrainian army in that area because they were afraid of an air attack from Russia. I don't want to say they took down MH17, because I don't have any facts that prove it. But I know they were deployed and active there.

Why don't you learn the facts before posting your bullshit? Be smarter and study the publicly available information.
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Old 07-17-2015, 02:47 PM   #52
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I once dated a Russian chick.. She was showing me pictures of her classmates in a yearbook.. She points to this one kid, said he's dead. Then points to another guy, says he killed him because the 1st guy stole his car stereo..

She literally thought it was perfectly fine for the one guy to kill the other over a stolen car radio.. I didn't date her much longer...
I always joke with hotel staff when im traveling about russians. They are the most brutish dogs and never smile. Hotel staffs cant stand them they are world famous for being rude, self serving pieces of shit.

Russians will whine about the west but would take a USA visa in a heart beat.

CybershitSEO is a dog. He even tries to excuse the Russians in the video. Wouldnt expect anything else. They are trained dogs and he wags his tail for Putin the master just like a good boy is supposed to.
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No suprises here. Never trust a ruskie, they will stab you in the back.
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No suprises here. Never trust a ruskie, they will stab you in the back.
Always did it face to face mano a mano) - Napoleon, Hitler whatever



Stabbing you in the back is the classic US tactic (Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Iraq etc...) - a way of cowards. You can say whatever you want but we've got the world's biggest territory. We've got it because we know something on how to fight. No bravery here, just a historically fact.
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Always did it face to face mano a mano) - Napoleon, Hitler whatever



Stabbing you in the back the classic US tactic (Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki etc...) - a way of cowards.

Scamming russian cunts.
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Everything a stupid floridian bitch like you can say? Wow! Congrats on that, girle
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Who are "they"? The plane was shot down by the Ukrainian rebels that used the Ukrainian "BUK" over the Ukrainian territory. The plane was guided through the war zone (stupid people would never ask the questions like: "why? and how could it even been possible?") by the Ukrainian air control and it was "escorted" by the Ukrainian jet-fighter to make it appear like a military transport aircraft to simulate a target for rebels. Those are facts.

So now the question (for stupid scumbags of course): which country has a responsibility for that?

I heard "Russians" many times in this thread, but how exactly Russians are related to this? That's not a Russian territory. The plane was not guided by Russians over the war zone. The "BUK" was not Russian (it was captured by rebels from the Ukrainian army). The voices on video are not Russian - those are Ukrainians. How come?
I think he still considers it all the USSR.
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Putin gets 7 more years to live up to US high standards on shooting down passenger jets



Shoot down of commercial airliner precedent rests with U.S. warship Vincennes - The Globe and Mail


and should follow US example and honor killers who shot down passenger jet with medals



2 Vincennes Officers Get Medals;Citations Do Not Mention Downing of Iranian Airliner That Killed 290 - The Washington Post | HighBeam Research
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There is no doubt the the Russkies blew that plane out of the sky. No way to say if it was done on purpose or not or maybe they just fucked up. Russia is a bull though. All this shit going on over there is the Kremlin's response to Nato's policy of containment. They pretty much have them surrounded and Russia is pushing back.
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Putin gets 7 more years to live up to US high standards on shooting down passenger jets



Shoot down of commercial airliner precedent rests with U.S. warship Vincennes - The Globe and Mail


and should follow US example and honor killers who shot down passenger jet with medals



2 Vincennes Officers Get Medals;Citations Do Not Mention Downing of Iranian Airliner That Killed 290 - The Washington Post | HighBeam Research
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HRABOVE, Ukraine, July 17 (UPI) -- Russian President Vladimir Putin told Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte in a phone call that establishing an international tribunal to prosecute those responsible for the crash of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 a year ago would be "premature" and "counterproductive."
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Somebody may get caught with his hands in the cookie jar ...

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Cyber SEO is a mudak of epic proportions.

Who would ever do business with this clown?

He actually forces me to side with Crockett. That is totally fucked up.
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I'm undecided.. Lots of propaganda. Who had the most to gain? Ukraine.

Putin's plane is similar in color and has flown that route in the past. He also had a trip to Brazil planned around that time.
So the Ukrainian government ordered it's military to shoot down a civilian jet in the hopes that it was Putin's plane?

That's just dumb.
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I think he still considers it all the USSR.
And he is not alone. Look at the posts in this thread. Those simple and well known facts make some local clowns really mad. They want "Russians did it", they see they are wrong and they start pissing off their pants. They can't accept the fact that MH17 was shot down by the Ukrainian citizens (doesn't matter rebels, batmans or circus performers), in the Ukrainian sky by the Ukrainian "BUK" system from the Ukrainian territory. Even all those voices on video posted by the OP are also Ukrainians. Those brainwashed morons are real funny in their hateful and impotent madness

The one can say "Russians did it" only if he confirms that the Ukraine is a part of Russia (which is not of course).

P.S. This is not a first time when Ukraine shots down a civilian plane. They have trained a lot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberi...es_Flight_1812 - but there was no international tribunal etc, because everybody hates Russians and Jews, so the world was not shocked of our loss.
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because everybody hates Russians
Hmmm i couldnt imagine why! Especially by your posts.
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Hmmm i couldnt imagine why! Especially by your posts.
Read yours. I'm posting the facts, while you, just crying like a baby and always trying to insult a whole my nation. Shame on you, lill girl


BTW, more news on the topic: https://translate.google.com/transla...1d9&edit-text=

I just don't understand why all those experts who examined the remains of the plane were still unable to find out the type or missile. The air-to-air 9М38 and "BUK" have absolutely different ways of destruction. For example, the "BUK" missile always fly from above and explodes right in front of the aircraft. Only this way and never somehow else. It penetrates the sheathing, so the target continue moving for a few seconds while the air flow tears it up into pieces. Also those missiles have shrapnel of a very specific form.
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Read yours. I'm posting the facts, while you, just crying like a baby and always trying to insult a whole my nation. Shame on you, lill girl
This is what you do not understand. You're delusional. You don't post any facts. You post delusional russian stupidities.

I'm not insulting russia, i post FACTS about russia. People from all over the world view you ass backwards soviet idiots. Which you are.

Your nation blows up planes, invades PEACEFUL neighbors, your president blows up apartment buildings of its own people. Your entire population is completely controlled by its leaders and yet you somehow defend a nation such as yours?

Have you ever smiled once in your life? I have never seen a true russian smile. I believe if i put the word "smile" in google translate to russian it will come back blank.



This is the appearance of all russians. I don't blame you. Growing up in a backwards country that leaves 0 opportunity outside the ruling elite. Plus being brainwashed into thinking I live in a great country when all I see is shit and poverty around me would also leave me with nothing to smile about.

Hopefully one day you break out of the russian matrix you live in. but you have proven to be too big of an idiot to have a hope for that. Enjoy your shitty vodka. Loser.
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Your nation blows up planes, invades PEACEFUL neighbors, your president blows up apartment buildings of its own people. Your entire population is completely controlled by its leaders and yet you somehow defend a nation such as yours?

Have you ever smiled once in your life? I have never seen a true russian smile. I believe if i put the word "smile" in google translate to russian it will come back blank.
Don't stop please, keep crying, girl

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And he is not alone. Look at the posts in this thread. Those simple and well known facts make some local clowns really mad. They want "Russians did it", they see they are wrong and they start pissing off their pants. They can't accept the fact that MH17 was shot down by the Ukrainian citizens (doesn't matter rebels, batmans or circus performers), in the Ukrainian sky by the Ukrainian "BUK" system from the Ukrainian territory. Even all those voices on video posted by the OP are also Ukrainians. Those brainwashed morons are real funny in their hateful and impotent madness

The one can say "Russians did it" only if he confirms that the Ukraine is a part of Russia (which is not of course).

P.S. This is not a first time when Ukraine shots down a civilian plane. They have trained a lot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberi...es_Flight_1812 - but there was no international tribunal etc, because everybody hates Russians and Jews, so the world was not shocked of our loss.
Russians are the cause of the issues in Ukraine. It's russian soldiers, weapons ect.ect.. hence why the Rebels are called Russians..

It's not Captured Ukrainian weapons it this point. It's being supply ed direct from Moscow. Hence the reason Russia is to blame for mh17.
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It's not Captured Ukrainian weapons it this point. It's being supply ed direct from Moscow.
Any facts and proof? Why would Russia supply and incomplete system which has a very limited range and capabilities? I know you are a completely clueless person, but even you could read something about the "BUK" system (what is it, how does it work and how many units it does include etc). Your posts are real stupid, man. RTFM.

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Called by whom?

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Fuck off cunt.
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Anyone in the US that does business with this immature ass-hat russian needs their head examined.
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Anyone in the US that does business with this immature ass-hat russian needs their head examined.
I always loved your comments, clown You are funny, for real. But do you really believe that your silly childish comments on GFY will somehow somehow affect my customers? They don't care what do you think (oh, maybe only those scammers whose transactions were not accepted by 2co) and they don't give a shit about my love to your country. They make money and this is the only criteria they consider then they buy my products. They buy it because it allows them to make thousands euros a month on autopilot w/o any manual input. It's just a business, clown. Just a business and nothing else ;)
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I didn't post a single word about the USA to this thread (it's on the other side of the Earth and we don't give a shit about it here). You should visit a doctor, because you have some serious mania. You think everybody cares about your country? For real? I know you have no free medicine there, but maybe you can borrow some money for a visit to a psychiatrist?
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Everyone here see's your asshole russian attitude. Everyone here see's your superior "fuck you" attitude when dealing with your customers. You're a typical russian asshole! Nothing more nothing less. Pitiful.
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Or Canada, for that matter.
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Everyone here see's your asshole russian attitude. Everyone here see's your superior "fuck you" attitude when dealing with your customers. You're a typical russian asshole! Nothing more nothing less. Pitiful.
You wrote "russian" incorrectly two times in one single post and you have tried to insult me referring my nation. As you have noticed, I didn't mention your country and I never used the Nazi approach against you nation (if some crazy Floridian clown is an idiot, it's your own problem and a curse for your parents, but it definitely not an issue for the other US people). You are a typical piece of uneducated low life shit, clown
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True story: my favorite vodka was always russian, since meeting you the thought of giving your country a nickel appalls me.

Keep up the good work you are quite the goodwill ambassador.
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True story: my favorite vodka was always russian, since meeting you the thought of giving your country a nickel appalls me.

Keep up the good work you are quite the goodwill ambassador.
Vodka is for rednecks. I mean the old-school people still use it as a cure against the flu with pepper, garlic and horseradish, but a favorite drink? For real? Are you an alcoholic?
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Vodka is for rednecks. I mean the old-school people still use it as a cure against the flu with pepper, garlic and horseradish, but a favorite drink? For real? Are you an alcoholic?


I said my favorite vodka, not favorite drink. Learn to comprehend what you read.

Keep making my point ass-wipe.


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Studies show Russians drink more hard liquor than any other nation in the world, including vodka -- which means "little water."

In Russia, the drink isn't sipped; it's drunk bottoms up, and is usually followed by a chaser -- usually something salty or pickled.

Most importantly though, it's not about how you drink your vodka -- it's about why.

Throughout Russia's turbulent history, vodka has been the ultimate remedy for people to forget their troubles.

Author Viktor Erofeyev, who has studied the history of the drink, calls it "the Russian God."

"Other countries they can drink. In Russia, it is not drinking. You are drinking not vodka. You are drinking your soul."

He said Russia's history would have been very different if it hadn't included vodka.
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I find it funny how CybershitSEO makes regular russian culture sound 100% different from what it is. He isn't even any different. I guarantee you he lives in a shit apartment on the outskirts of Moscow and that was his life achievement.
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I find it funny how CybershitSEO makes regular russian culture sound 100% different from what it is. He isn't even any different. I guarantee you he lives in a shit apartment on the outskirts of Moscow and that was his life achievement.
A generation or two off a collective farm somewhere where his drunk grandparents ate boot leather soup, drank themselves blind and had smelly unwashed sex on a pile of state owned straw.

ANYONE doing business with this hateful slob needs their head examined.


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I don't think anyone can say that anyone other than the Rebel forces shot down the plane.

There is a question of if the Rebel forces are being backed by the Russian Gov.
Backed or not backed by Russia, this does not remove the possibility that the Rebels forces could have used captured weapon(s) to bring down the plane.

Rebels have captured a number of weapons and vehicles from the Ukrainian forces and bases.
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I don't think anyone can say that anyone other than the Rebel forces shot down the plane.

There is a question of if the Rebel forces are being backed by the Russian Gov.
Backed or not backed by Russia, this does not remove the possibility that the Rebels forces could have used captured weapon(s) to bring down the plane.

Rebels have captured a number of weapons and vehicles from the Ukrainian forces and bases.
According to the video, posted by the OP (he sucks at knowledge of various languages), the plane was shot down by the Ukrainians (rebels, regular army or anybody else - they are still citizens of the Ukraine) because all voices on that footage speak with a strong Ukrainian accent. As as said above, even people from Kiev (the capital of the modern Ukraine) speak Russian much better that those guys on the video.

BTW, here is an interesting tweet, posted by some guy a month before the catastrophe. He says that very soon a civilian aircraft "full of the EU tourists" (a quote) will be shoot down in the Ukrainian sky as the official reason to invite NATO forces to that region. Very interesting, isn't it?



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