20+ wordpress sites. Put Them all under 1 server or diversify?

[lakerslive]

So, you wordpress sites are getting traffic..

Would you, put them under 1 server, or buy shared hosting plans with different companies?

Single server pros:
1. Easy to manage
2. Single password to access all your sites
3. Fast load response time
anything else?...

Single server cons:
1. If your site gets attacked, everything goes down
2. Not managed by system admins?


Shared server pros (your wordpress sites distributed throughout out 4 hosting companies)
Pros:
1. If a site gets attacked, others are still up?
2. Managed by system admins?
anything else?

Cons:
1. Not as snappy in terms of load time?
2. You have to store a lot of username and passwords somewhere..
anything else?

[xFoundry]

I would just keep them on one server, and as Wordpress Multisite. Whatever meets your requirements, and has a good price. If you want to have different IPs for seo, you can get into something like seo hosting, and you don't need to use multiple companies for this. Just one company, one login, and each domain can look like it is on a separate IP (even like Australia, the Netherlands, Canada, Argentina, if you want). If you do this for seo, it would not be Multisite. You did not ask about this specifically, so I am not sure if you need it, but even if you have different IPs, there is a lot of other elements of websites, which make them look like they belong to one person, so it is questionable, whether seo hosting makes sense too. I would say, it does. They look at it - same ip - yes / no, and decide based on that, even though all other factors can be the same. So, seo hosting probably helps, but the sites can be still perceived as a network (same person's websites / less natural links).

[baddog]

Are you interlinking?

[lakerslive]

Originally Posted by baddog

Are you interlinking?

no linking between sites.

[Denny]

Originally Posted by lakerslive

2. Not managed by system admins?

Why not? You can just buy a fully managed dedicated plan and focus on your biz/sites.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by xFoundry

you can get into something like seo hosting

I can't believe there are still people on this planet spouting this utter bullshit.

[xFoundry]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

I can't believe there are still people on this planet spouting this utter bullshit.

Different IPs on a network of Wordpress blogs, don't make a difference? Like I said, I know that websites my be registered on the same day, with the same registrar, use the same dns servers, and other things like that, so the likelihood of being perceived as a network of blogs, is always high. Still, it looks a lot better, if you are at least trying, I would say. 100 different IPs looks better than 100 sites on x.x.x.x. I was going to look into this, later on, and I don't need it know. I would go for separate IPs, but not for a high monthly price. And also, maybe you have a better info than me on this.

[aka123]

In my vps I have different cpanel passwords for every site and I do not use WP multisite. If one site gets attacked it won't the affect others unless the vps installation comes attacked as a whole or somehow gets unsecure because of an attack.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by xFoundry

so the likelihood of being perceived as a network of blogs, is always high.

Especially if you use same Analytics account to track all the sites, like I do. Google's bot doesn't need to be any brainiac to connect the dots. I have divided my Analytics accounts just into mainstream and porn.

Hiding interlinking from Google would require some serious efforts and dedication. I don't even try to do that. I just make sure that the links are relevant. Even slightly unrelevant doesn't always hurt. When I started my first porn site I linked it from my mainstream Blogger site. LOL.

[xFoundry]

Originally Posted by aka123

Especially if you use same Analytics account to track all the sites, like I do. Google's bot doesn't need to be any brainiac to connect the dots. I have divided my Analytics accounts just into mainstream and porn.

There is a lot of people who use Piwik, because of this, but in the end, Piwik code is the same on all the websites, assuming, that they don't create separate Piwik installations, for all the sites...

Either way, I think that creating a network of 50 or 100 blogs, for backlinks, can be good. It is not the perfect, and natural links, but it is a lot better, than nothing.

I did not read it yet, but there is a good forum, inside linkspun.com, where people talk about these things (adult backlinks, specialized site).

[Denny]

I don't interlink the sites that are hosted on the same host, no matter if they are on diff. IPs or not.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by xFoundry

Either way, I think that creating a network of 50 or 100 blogs, for backlinks, can be good. It is not the perfect, and natural links, but it is a lot better, than nothing.

Yeah, but network like that is probably more or less shit and that is when the negative effects of interlinking start. It just screams about artificial linking. And even if Google would count the links as a positive thing, the value will be fucking low.

But if you maintain 50-100 quality websites, you have.. hands full of work, that is for sure.

I wouldn't create network like that.

[xFoundry]

Originally Posted by aka123

Yeah, but network like that is probably more or less shit and that is when the negative effects of interlinking start. It just screams about artificial linking. And even if Google would count the links as a positive thing, the value will be fucking low.

But if you maintain 50-100 quality websites, you have.. hands full of work, that is for sure.

I wouldn't create network like that.

You can do spun text from rss feeds, at the rate of at least 200 posts a day, if needed. Then get some kind of links to these sites, I am not sure. With this, people say it is not good, don't do it, but if you would be able to take a look at all the links to adult websites, something like this could be at 20 or more percent, lets say. People say it is this, and that, it is not natural, so I would not do it, but a lot of links is like this, or paid, or 100+ links on the bottom of a high PR site, and it works. I don't specialize in seo, so I am not sure. I would need to work on it full time / every day.

Natural links / Google Webmaster Guidelines - this describes a perfect state of things, and what is wanted by them. What is actually out there is far away from this, and they have to work with that...

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by xFoundry

You can do spun text from rss feeds, at the rate of at least 200 posts a day, if needed. Then get some kind of links to these sites, I am not sure. With this, people say it is not good, don't do it, but if you would be able to take a look at all the links to adult websites, something like this could be at 20 or more percent, lets say. People say it is this, and that, it is not natural, so I would not do it, but a lot of links is like this, or paid, or 100+ links on the bottom of a high PR site, and it works. I don't specialize in seo, so I am not sure. I would need to work on it full time / every day.

Natural links / Google Webmaster Guidelines - this describes a perfect state of things, and what is wanted by them. What is actually out there is far away from this, and they have to work with that...

so much retard in this thread.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by xFoundry

You can do spun text from rss feeds, at the rate of at least 200 posts a day, if needed. Then get some kind of links to these sites, I am not sure. With this, people say it is not good, don't do it, but if you would be able to take a look at all the links to adult websites, something like this could be at 20 or more percent, lets say. People say it is this, and that, it is not natural, so I would not do it, but a lot of links is like this, or paid, or 100+ links on the bottom of a high PR site, and it works. I don't specialize in seo, so I am not sure. I would need to work on it full time / every day.

I do work for SEO stuff (and other stuff) and I don't even get what you are saying, but if I got even half of that right it doesn't sound like that good idea. Well, at least I wouldn't recommend that to any client.

Last bigger client had 50 million € revenue in year. I can't exactly recommend some high risk tactics to them, but if you have nothing to lose you can always try something like that. I wouldn't try that even by myself.

[xFoundry]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

so much retard in this thread.

I would say that Google algorithms have to be loose, to some extent, and because of this, a lot of these things pass. Like, you have a website based on quotes, so it is duplicate content. They cant afford to have actual people reviewing these sites, and deciding, so they cant be filtering this out, from the results. Links - similar thing. They cant be working only with 100% perfect sites, as this would prevent like 90% of websites, from showing in Google search. Life is not perfect, and Internet is not perfect, as they would want it to be, lets say, so again, they have to work with this.

As an example, you make a network of 100 Wordpress blogs, on seo hosting (different IPs), and fill it up with spun text posts from sponsor's rss feeds, one update per week. At the same time you work on hand written blogs, for one year. This takes a lot of work, and with the same amount of text and posts, you would be getting similar amounts of search engine traffic, to both of them (text spinning must be done good / correctly, lets say, I am not sure if anything would be good).

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by xFoundry

I would say that Google algorithms have to be loose, to some extent, and because of this, a lot of these things pass. Like, you have a website based on quotes, so it is duplicate content. They cant afford to have actual people reviewing these sites, and deciding, so they cant be filtering this out, from the results. Links - similar thing. They cant be working only with 100% perfect sites, as this would prevent like 90% of websites, from showing in Google search. Life is not perfect, and Internet is not perfect, as they would want it to be, lets say, so again, they have to work with this.

As an example, you make a network of 100 Wordpress blogs, on seo hosting (different IPs), and fill it up with spun text posts from sponsor's rss feeds, one update per week. At the same time you work on hand written blogs, for one year. This takes a lot of work, and with the same amount of text and posts, you would be getting similar amounts of search engine traffic, to both of them (text spinning must be done good / correctly, lets say, I am not sure if anything would be good).

You are either trolling, or you have no idea what you are talking about.

[charlie g]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

You are either trolling, or you have no idea what you are talking about.

do YOU know what he is talking about? I mean, with all, of the , commas spread, throughout his, post, I cant make, sense out of, really, any of what, he may be, trying, to say.

but seriously, I think OP should concentrate on a really good site with good content rather than bunches of spun recycled garbage. Bounce rate, user time and page views are more important than 50 links from suspect sites with dodgy content. And maybe, those links could be detrimental to your main site in google's eyes.

[sandman!]

1 server is a better idea.

unless your interlinking

[EddyTheDog]

Google wants speed - That has been key for a long time - Splash out on a real server...

[3xmedia]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

You are either trolling, or you have no idea what you are talking about.

Other fake nicks of this polish retard are "AllAdultWebsites", "johnny_d", "AdultSites", maybe more, can't track them all. Guy is retarded.