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09-15-2015, 04:38 PM | #1 |
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webcam tipping software
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09-15-2015, 06:08 PM | #2 |
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Have you used them? Any feedback? Any chance u know a site who uses them?
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this works: Live video chat script with billing
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09-16-2015, 07:21 AM | #6 |
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We just integrated with Dmitriy and it couldn't have gone more smoothly. Great support and documentation.
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09-16-2015, 07:58 AM | #8 |
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LiveCamNetwork v6.0 | Live video chat & webcam streaming solution Broadcast unlimited number of webcams Charge what you like per minute. Tipping / tribute system built-in too. Optionally License your live chat model content to other sites. I'm happy to give you a demo or free trial. Hit me up via Skype at markfrom2much.
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Thank you guys! You made me so happy this morning reading such a positive feedbacks!
Now we have a feature to exchange models between WebVideo based websites and we can offer models for new webcam startups! Contact me if anyone from our old or new clients interested in getting more models online! See here listing of peformer you can publish on your website (27 online at the moment): Free live sex cams with XXX porn shows online (mostly asian but we are growing up and getting more!)
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09-17-2015, 07:42 AM | #10 | |
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- I see a note about Zombaio being the biller, you know Zombaio got issues paying, right? Also, it says by "Iris Media Club Ltd". Let's say I own "My Company LTD" and I have my biller which is not Zombaio but strangebiller.com . Will my cam site state by "My Company LTD" and biller with my strangebiller, or should be like a whitelabel billed by your biller under "Iris Media Club Ltd" or such. Also each biller takes a different % fee, and finally the cal girls need to be paid by someone who hired them, how money matters are balanced, what the money flows. - Same question for USC 2257, yours states "Academtech L.P., Scotland". You provide the cam girls via some other customer of yours, let's say I am asked to show the ID of some too young looking filipina, I can't tell: "hey, go in scotland, I have no email of them". Normally if the cam content is provided by multiple sources, there are multiple 2257 contacts for example, you have one only there, that if I google is unknown, and no emails or so. - What about model referrals. I make with you the mycamsite.com it shows your partner's 27 cam girls, ok. Then some new model signups from model registration page (by luck or I register them). Will this model register to my site only, and login and be online only in my site. Or be broadcasted to all your network of sites? If goes to all network of sites and gets sales elsewhere, I should get a piece as referrer. Except the above things to detail, the idea of selling a cam site software along with a number of online models is good. In fact, most new cam sites fail because of lack of models. You provide the models. Actually only asian ones, so interesting for a niche only - I know this is because your main customers are asian cam sites - if you add blondes that could be very interesting for many. Somethong in middle between a ready whitelabel and a totally own cam site. Start with your models, slowly add yours, and it is possible to end up with a totally own cam site with own models only at the end, without the dramatic problem of starting a cam site with no cam girls.
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09-17-2015, 07:51 AM | #11 |
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If you buy or develop any camsite software using legacy Flash players (broadcast streaming) you are throwing away your investment.
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1) streaming video is only 5-10% of the actual software 2) for now streaming with Flash is the most easy to use option for both models and customers. 3) we offer streaming from flash and from mobile devices already as well as viewing live feed from desktop and mobile devices while other people only talk about future technologies
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09-17-2015, 08:19 AM | #13 | |
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Thanks for feedback and reasonable questions, I will answer supposing you got webvideo website with models from ModelNet:
1. We really process payments with Zombaio on 3videochat.com but our concept does not mean you would refer customers to our payment processor. Your customers would pay on your website using your payment processor. In fact they will pay directly to your account however if you consume models from ModelNet you need to make a deposit (for example, $100) and we will deduct 80% of private chat cost from this deposit. Same with tips. If customer make a tip worth $5 we will deduct $4 from your guarantee deposit. Once you have $0 remaining in your deposit all ModelNet models will be automatically removed from your website. More details about calculation could be found here: Model exchange with video chat network 2. Each website has its own custodian of records and to keep it accurate we have to publish all companies of modelnet on 2257 compliance page. For now we know them all and while we have only few websites providing models for ModelNet this is good enough. 3) your models are yours, they will register on your own website, you can only consume models and not publish them to ModelNet (but why not to get additional traffic?). You are operating standalone website with own models, own customer, your own payment processing, separate hosting, software, template, etc. What we are trying to do is to allow small websites to partner together and to be able to be competitive with with well known big websites of webcam market. For now we have asians mostly - you are right. Most of successful websites based on our software are asian but sure we are working on joining more, getting more models (including individual models) expaning ModelNet to allow use by 3rd party websites as consumers. At the end it is possible to work with only own models but additional traffic is always good anyway. Quote:
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09-17-2015, 09:18 AM | #14 |
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Adapt or die.
I would not spend a dime of my money on Flash legacy software. But then I am not trying to sell any outdated software. |
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From your model registration site: Hardware minimums and recommended requirements: You will need a PC at this time to broadcast; If you don't have a PC available at this time please check back with us in the near future for further details – we will have a video broadcasting platform for models that will work with non-Windows devices such as Android and Apple ipad/iphone soon. To be able to provide the best streaming quality, you need a good computer with minimum of a dual core processor at 2Ghz or more with 2GB RAM memory or more. Our basic software solution should work on any operating system that has support flash player. Our high quality broadcasting solution (our own Flux Manager) will work only on Windows operating system (XP, Vista, 7, 8 - 32 or 64 bits). A High speed Internet connection, with a recommended 1Mbs or more download/upload bandwidth. A good quality WebCam (Logitech, Microsoft etc) or CamCorder (Sony, Panasonic etc). A microphone. Internet browser like: Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer etc. The latest Adobe Flash plugin.
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09-17-2015, 03:18 PM | #16 |
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That will change sooner rather than later.
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09-18-2015, 04:01 AM | #17 |
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09-18-2015, 04:11 AM | #18 |
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what are you talking about? your xlovecam index page completely made in flash even where it is not needed! We offer Flash only for video streaming - the only place where it is the best option at the moment. Earlier I have explained our solution is advanced enough to switch into any type of streaming which would work for many-to-one streaming connections.
If your programmers can't use Flash properly it does not mean this technology is bad in general!
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09-18-2015, 05:46 AM | #19 |
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Bla Bla Bla ...
You are looking at our old website -- just what we want you to see. In fact, people are offering to sell out to us their old flash websites -- we are not buying. But good luck selling your stuff ... |
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Could you show me an example of non-flash website? I know few popular webcam sites: bongacams, chaturbate, cam4, myfreecams, streamate and more.. they are all based on Flash player.
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Xlovecam - Live Webcams He is of course still streaming with flash, like almost everyone who is in the business of streaming video on a many to many or many to one basis. Can I ask you a question Dmitry? If someone buys your software today and after a few months if there is some advances in WebRTC that make it a valid technology for your customers, will you provide this for them?
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Actually we started working on webcam sites development about 12-13 years ago and our first version was based on Java applet (Flash was not available in 2002) and we switched our clients from Java to Flash without needs to buy system once again. We respect our clients, their business and do our best to keep system up to date with latest technologies.
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09-18-2015, 06:36 AM | #23 |
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Just to set the record straight;
I steam in Flash for PC Desktop, HLS for no Flash, and WebRTC on a new beta. We are adding a pay wallet to that beta WebRTC platform. Multi cam viewers is problematic in WebRTC but we are resolving that. My advice is not to buy any legacy Flash streaming technology now it will be obsolete just like Java Firecracker was in 2002 . See: Meerkat or Periscope << still buggy but this is the future and these type technologies are where to invest. You cannot by in for $10K I have been broadcasting cams since 2001. 14 years ... |
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Streaming is only part of software and it is the part which can be replaced. Same way as we switched long time ago from Java to Flash we will do it from Flash to Something.
Your idea is clear and we also making tests with WebRTC as it most likely will replace Flash.... or will not.... who knows.
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I wrote myself one of the first Java cam applets back in 1995, 20 years ago. However, when I later figured out I am too old, I hired younger guys to write the code, since we the old guys, end up obsolete, and sure we need to hand over the tech stuff to younger brains
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If you only knew the cam websites offered to us that I declined buying LOL
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Some really handy information on this thread. This will help a lot of people.
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This thread is about the "software" as the OP asked, but, really any cam software will do, as long as it is supported and used by someone as Dmitry's one and a few others. The real issue of starting a cam sites it is the lack of models and customers, which need each other at same time 24/7 from day 1 of launch. There is consensus that the real difference between cam sites launched and keeping up (like chaturbate, bongacams etc.) it is that these invested $1 million or more in advertising (media buying more than affiliates), while the others who failed don't. Software details considerations are academia.
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According to Forbes Magazine Hungary edition.
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All that being said on past history and how cool the resume of everyone is, any cam software that 1) Can play video on iphone/android too; and 2) is used by multiple active cam sites, and so it will be updated with new technologies by its developers in future; it is good to start a cam site. Then, you'll need a million dollar in advertising for first 2 years, or, it will end up as an empty site in matter of months.
This sufficient code system includes Dmitry offer - I never had a chance to use his software on my projects, since cam sites I directed all got custom code, or was based on old licensed code that was rewritten and no more exists now. Stories like livejasmin who started with the Firecracker etc. etc. However a russian cam studio asked us a few years ago how to open an own cam site too, I handed them Dmitry contact (mostly as being russian too - but also because I know the asian sites that run with his code since 10+ years), and he setup a nice cam site, everyone happy. The cam site ended up empty because they had not the million dollar for advertising, but for this reason only - they had own models being a studio, and software it worked well, site is up still even if empty, I believe. About "no flash", there is no reason to remove flash on the model client. The issue is only on the member clients and for this there's HLS via wowza or other which is easy stuff. Doing cam sites is not a tech problem in 2015, unless you hire dumb people to code, or license the wrong software (read: no any 24/7 live site with 10+ models online using it), the issue it is the marketing.
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My expert op - Renting a site is a good idea. However, make sure it has WOWZA server html5 player (responsive mobile yadda yaddaa) and try to avoid FLV adobe per stream charges. Most of you know that. I have found Amember a good solution. I worked a start up that used Amember (it supports zombiao my fav first time or going beta biller). It can also integrate into a tipping solution. If you want to roll your own tipping solution (I have - not too hard) Amember is best supported platform in my expert knowledge. I have used several CAN software solutions (one is on this board) and really it rolls into a cost issue. Most of the CAN software solutions are ok but you do not get access to source code. Eventhough the source code they mostly use is open source based. My days at hustler and playboy in the development departments were usually spent changing our own solutions to market trends in order to stay alive.
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You said it brother. Cam sites are easy now. Unless you use stupid license from stupid company. So true
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I know which website you are talking about and the owner has closed studios and now working in another type of business (not webcams). But right now we have the option to share models between WebVideo websites which would really help starting it up.
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Zombaio you serious?
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