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50 thread backfires

crockett

There is no backfire.. it 50 angry conservatives as usual..

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crockett

Its denial, willful ignorance what ever you want to call it.

It part of the mental disorder that goes along with being conservative.

crockett

Both are the same in many ways it's just Republicans are dumber..

dyna mo

looks like the only angry one in here is **********, he's a conservative?

Coup

There's literally no other reason to post on the Internet than this.

*pulls down pants*

RandyRandy

I'm interested to know, what makes a person Anti-American? And I don't mean the obvious ones who bash all that is America at every opportunity.

I mean, I have a serious problem with what is perceived as democracy in the US. I see both major political parties as being essentially the same. Most politicians will lie to get elected and it's expected. No one wants change once they are elected. They just want to stay elected.

I also have a serious problem with the way "entitlements" are handed out as, well, entitlements. When I was growing up, if you were on Welfare or Food Stamps - you were looked upon with disdain. Now it seems people are proud to get whatever they can from the government, without having to actually earn it.

These two factors, coupled with what I feel is terrible American agression in our foreign policy make me ashamed of the way things run in the US. But I don't consider that American bashing. I consider that having an informed opinion based on what I read and see and believe.

That said, I consider myself a proud American, a patriot. I also believe if you have $1 in your pocket and ambition and a willingness to work, you can become successful more easily in the US than in any other country. To me, that's what makes America great.

So, am I anti-American?

dyna mo

Have I ever trolled you back for your comments on USA? Nope.

RandyRandy

No, not at all. I'm conflicted myself as to when a person crosses the line between disagreeing with the status quo and being a basher. There's no hard and fast line that is crossed. Every country has it's good and bad points. Malaysia isn't at all PC, which I like, but the censorship here is almost comical. The opposition party had a demonstration a couple of weeks back, and they wear yellow. So the day before the demonstration, the Minister of Public Affairs banned the color yellow from being worn in public.

When something negative is linked to in social media, by the time you click on the link, it's always a 404 error. There's no dissent here.

I remember at the start of the Iraqi War, Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks was villified fior her stance against Bush and the war. I was one of the people who thought she was American bashing. Turns out she was ahead of her time, IMHO.

All good, just making conversation.

dyna mo

it's every American's God given right to criticize our country and our government. I do it all the time and get bashed for it here by people like the op.

That's not anti-American. I'm referring to the east-eurotards and ruskies that blame everything wrong in the world on USA.

2MuchMark

says the pot...

LOL! Please for the love of god, add me to your ignore list. Please please please.

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Rochard

The thing here is that you see things vastly differently than when you were a kid in grade school or high school. When you were a kid you knew some kids were on welfare or food stamps or had "free lunches" but you didn't really think much about it. As an adult, it's your tax dollars being spent and it upsets you.

I believe that benefits need to be short term - six months to a year. Unemployment is at 5.1% (and expected to drop even lower); People should be able to get back on their feet after a year. We shouldn't have entire generations of families being raised on welfare.

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dyna mo

i was replying to YOUR post about my comments here!

you're the one writing diatribes about my posts, see:

the funny part is i was mentioning to crockett that things are not black and white, your post reacting to my stating that is to tell me things are not black and white. i couldn't pass up the opp.

nevertheless, i would think that since my view bothers you so much, it makes more sense for you to put me on ignore. but that's just being sensible, not nonsensible.