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woj · 10-09-2015, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I don't disagree at all.

Although like I mentioned before, incidences like this make the concerns of Turkey and NATO very real. Especially since Russia has already crossed into Turkish airspace multiple times. If one of these undetonated cruise missiles, or any missile, lands on Turkish soil it's not going to be like the current Iranian situation.

what do you think will be different? tension will briefly rise, but realistically nothing will happen...

Sly · 10-09-2015, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

what do you think will be different? tension will briefly rise, but realistically nothing will happen...

Since we seem to be pulling out, Europe will preach and throw their fist into the air about injustice.

Just saw a big spread this morning about Turkish/Russian relations. They are not too friendly it seems. That would be the blowback.

just a punk · 10-09-2015, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Although like I mentioned before, incidences like this make the concerns of Turkey and NATO very real. Especially since Russia has already crossed into Turkish airspace multiple times. If one of these undetonated cruise missiles, or any missile, lands on Turkish soil it's not going to be like the current Iranian situation.

And nothing will happen. Perhaps a Turkish diplomatic note or something like that.

I can tell you a real WWIII recipe if you want. Let's imagine the US aircraft carrier battle group attacks Russian forces (doesn't matter navy or ground troops). According to Russian defense doctrine, the only weapon which is intended to be used against the US aircraft carriers are cruise missiles with tactical nuclear warheads. So your aircraft carrier will be sink down with a 100% probability by just one or two nuke missiles like Гранит (aka SS-N-19 "Shipwreck") which is equipped with a 500 Kt warhead (the nuke power is about 24 Hiroshimas). What the States will do after that? A nuke strike by the continental Russia. That's how the Armageddon begins...

just a punk · 10-09-2015, 10:35 AM

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yea, I'm the idiot here...

Exactly. Your incandescent lamps from the 19th century spend a lot of electricity (they mostly heating than lighting). That's why I told to compare them to the energy-saving daylight ones that used in our grocery stores (incandescent lamps with a power > 75W are banned in Russia since 2013 and the ones with a power > 25W are banned since 2014) The energy saving you say? ;)

dyna mo · 10-09-2015, 10:40 AM

cyberschmoe arguing about grocery store lighting based on a 1999 picture on the internet to deflect away from ruskie bombs petering out over iran.

i'm not surprised.

Rochard · 10-09-2015, 10:52 AM

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And nothing will happen. Perhaps a Turkish diplomatic note or something like that.

I can tell you a real WWIII recipe if you want. Let's imagine the US aircraft carrier battle group attacks Russian forces (doesn't matter navy or ground troops). According to Russian defense doctrine, the only weapon which is intended to be used against the US aircraft carriers are cruise missiles with tactical nuclear warheads. So your aircraft carrier will be sink down with a 100% probability by just one or two nuke missiles like Гранит (aka SS-N-19 "Shipwreck") which is equipped with a 500 Kt warhead (the nuke power is about 24 Hiroshimas). What the States will do after that? A nuke strike by the continental Russia. That's how the Armageddon begins...

If their cruise missiles cannot hit a country, what makes you think they can target a ship?

pimpmaster9000 · 10-09-2015, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

If their cruise missiles cannot hit a country, what makes you think they can target a ship?

Can they hit a sea? Your massively expensive aircraft carriers and battleships and waste of money navy do not react well to nuke-triggered tsunamis do they?

I hope them f-15s float

don't worry if they do not hit with the first nuke they have 1000s

waste of money: US navy

just a punk · 10-09-2015, 11:37 AM

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If their cruise missiles cannot hit a country, what makes you think they can target a ship?

First of all, those are different types of cruise missiles. The missiles used to attack Syrian territory are the new and long range ones. Even if 4 missiles were lost (which is not proven), they are still more reliable than the US-made Tomahawks Block III (85% success launches of "Калибр НК" vs 65% success launches of Tomahawks in Yugoslavian war). When I'm talking about the anti-ship cruise missiles, I'm talking about the old good ones like Гранит (SS-N-19 "Shipwreck"), П-1000 Вулкан and П-15M Термит (SS-N-2 Styx). Those are designed for nuke warheads and have to be used against the aircraft battle groups (can be launched from surface, battle ships and submarines). Those don't need to hit the aircraft carrier. A 500Kt nuke blast will destroy the whole battle group from above with a 100% success.

femdomdestiny · 10-09-2015, 11:42 AM

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i read about the busted tanks with heat sources inside, were there other fake targets too?

Yes. Reservoirs with liquid that were collecting heat during day, old trucks, inflatable airplanes. Actually, nothing new, it is Russian concept and it worked perfectly.

Inflatable weapon models » Decoy (inflatable military models) :: hot air balloons, inflatable constrictions, landing mats, inflatable decoys, inflatable buildings

I guess this would be great to have in backyard

pimpmaster9000 · 10-09-2015, 11:47 AM

_Richard_ · 10-09-2015, 04:57 PM

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Yes. Reservoirs with liquid that were collecting heat during day, old trucks, inflatable airplanes. Actually, nothing new, it is Russian concept and it worked perfectly.

Inflatable weapon models » Decoy (inflatable military models) :: hot air balloons, inflatable constrictions, landing mats, inflatable decoys, inflatable buildings

I guess this would be great to have in backyard

i wish i could say that was smart, but chances are they were happy firing off everything they had anyway$$

ZiggiZiggiCrew · 10-09-2015, 10:34 PM

just a punk · 10-10-2015, 12:22 AM

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j3rkules · 10-10-2015, 02:37 AM

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just a punk · 10-10-2015, 04:09 AM

Allahu Akbar vs "Helicopter Rusio":

femdomdestiny · 10-10-2015, 04:18 AM

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i wish i could say that was smart, but chances are they were happy firing off everything they had anyway$$

Nope, it was panic, they were without ammo.

Projection was that Serbs will capitulate in 3 days. When I say capitulate that really means capitulation because one of requests was to let NATO operate and use Serbian infrastructure (roads, land, frequencies), and not to be under Serbian law .

It never happened and bombing lasted 78 days. Only way for western countries to do something was to start bombing civilians without protection. So they did, markets, hospitals, trains, houses ....

From military perspective, they were useless even with troops on the ground (Albanian terrorists in kosovo and regular Albanian army that was trying to enter from Albania).

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