videosc

If you use PornCMS and think you have a really nice looking site can you provide a link to it here? Or perhaps the PornCMS owner could list a few client sites that he thinks look really nice.

So far the PornCMS sites I've seen are not that great looking. They appear dated to me, the way early porn sites looked.

For what it's worth, aWiz sites are also pretty blah looking. Elevated X templates are a little better, though limited and expensive.

AdultSiteCMS claims to offer the most site design variety by tapping into the thousands of Wordpress themes that are on the market. But there have been reports of incompatibility with some themes, plus their support and security have also been called into question.

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plsureking

the usability of our template system really hit its stride when we introduced the standardized default bootstrap template.

prior to bootstrap, our site owners had to go thru the same painful process required on every other cms - hire a designer to get artwork, then hire a programmer to install it. as many site owners know, that process costs thousands of dollars, and it doesn't even include post-launch maintenance, hosting, cms, etc.

our bootstrap template is simple to edit. for those site owners with zero tech skills, we have a color chooser to modify all the colors of the bootstrap template. there's a WYSIWYG editor for the site header too, which means you can customize the look and feel in about 5-10 minutes.

we just launched the default bootstrap template (free for all sites) in September, but we already have some site owners running with the ball.

check out these custom jobs by site owners:

royal empire productions
baroness-revenge.com
Long Hair Divas

and Tom Foot is switching all of his sites to bootstrap too. he standardized all his site templates so he can launch a dozen more in 2016. here's a few of them:

Goddess Foot Domination
Foot Fetish Petite
Femdom Shed

the other huge benefit we're seeing as a result of the bootstrap template launch is that we have about 70% less custom programming work coming in. this means we've been able to spend a lot of time over the last couple months doing cms upgrades and site owner support. during this holiday break (the porn industry is quiet from Christmas to mid-January), we're upgrading the cms admin to bootstrap. we want the admin to work great on all devices for 2016!

you can hit me up with questions thru the site or email:
ryan at porncms dot com

happy holidays

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AJHall

All our Pro CMS free themes are here: Elevated X: Adult CMS Themes and Skins

Sarah from Zuzana Designs has a couple pre-fab Elevated X templates available for purchase and I know she plans on releasing more in 2016. We will also be releasing more free themes ourselves for the Pro CMS version in the new year.

Security is an issue for more than just 1 currently marketed CMS just FYI. We know of an open back door in at least one other you listed that allows anyone to get to a site's entire content without logging in. Don't base your buying decision on just templates and be sure you know a lot about the system you're getting.

Best of luck with whatever platform you decide to go with.

AJ

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j3rkules

Check out elevatedx.com.

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videosc

Those PornCMS examples look great and are responsive also so thanks for posting those. I thought Bootstrap was a Wordpress thing?

kuskka

No, Wordpress is not exclusive to Wordpress. I can be used in any framework/platform.

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plsureking

Ya bootstrap is a toolkit for display. It has standardized tools (code snippets and classes) for layout, buttons, forms, etc so you can set up the front end fast. Our site owners love it. They have fewer questions and problems setting up their frontend than they did with the traditional html template. It allows more freedom and faster site development. Most importantly, it's easy to manage the display yourself.

By the way, we have a 17+ point security system that covers everything - from frontend logins to backend hacking. We scan the traffic logs and file system of our servers every minute looking for exploits and abuse. My competitor's script has no built in security - frontend or backend. I'm not sure why he opened that can of worms. His software security is reliant on 3rd party scripts and the client's hosting company. I can only assume he is knocking the WP based cms, as WP is full of holes.

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AJHall

I wasn't referring to WP with security although it's widely known for it and its numerous plugins to be hacked constantly and for that to be a major detriment to any adult site choosing it as their backend.

For years we've considered introducing a security layer in Elevated X but won't do so unless we are confident we can provide one robust enough to suit our standards for something of that importance and that matches the level of service of a dedicated 3rd party security script vendor.

With many of the larger CMS clients Elevated X services who are high profile e.g. the Playboy, Playgirl, Penthouse, Jules Jordan, Homegrown Video types and popular models and Pornstars, the need for dependability in this area increases tenfold, as does the liability should someone find backdoors or other exploits like those we are aware of in some other systems.

Our customers often prefer something exclusive for security that has a dedicated company behind it. We currently refer to ProxyPass exclusively for this, following the lead of large site networks and high volume hosts like MojoHost who prefer them for security due to their long track record of protection with large scale sites that are a target for constant hacking attempts.

This may change but for now we still feel 3rd party specialized products provide the best result for our clients.

AJ

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AdultKing

You probably haven't had decent pentesters or security researchers have a go at your script. Boasting about security is a foolish path to take for any vendor in your market space.

As for Wordpress, it's not full of holes. Don't confuse the platform with plugins or themes that introduce security risks.

CMS platforms are only as good as the weakest component, if a bad guy can inject SQL or run XSS attacks then all the external 3rd party security in the world might be for naught.

I'm pretty amazed to read both of your statements on security, for vendors of such high profile systems - neither of you seems to have a clue.

AJHall

Our higher profile clients face hacking attempts constantly, as do we ourselves. We routinely auto-deploy software updates to all our users enterprise wide which include security updates as things are discovered.

When I referred to security in relation to Elevated X I was referring to site/member area security, not shoring up holes like SQL or direct exploits, that's not what we use it for.

:: Proxigence :: - For the things it does, at present we still prefer customers be in the hands of a dedicated service provider whose sole job it is to prevent that from happening.

AJ

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plsureking

ya u are 100% right there. that clown goaded me into it lol

the bash scripts we run block about 50k ips across the network every day. im sure that's small potatoes compared to the massive sites.

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The Porn Nerd

While I don't (currently) use a CMS I CAN vouch for Proxigence/ProxyPass, which I DO use to protect my network of 80+ paysites. ProxyPass is fantastic, a much better value than Strongbox, and their Support is top notch.

If ElevatedX and AJ say they use ProxyPass for security then that's good enough for me.

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plsureking

integrated user management is a much better option. how can you manage a member's usage stats and account info if you are outsourcing security? do gmail and facebook use 3rd party sign in?

3rd party login scripts are fine if you aren't using a cms, but it should be a standard feature of any professional cms. we've had login management since version 0.1. its basic functionality.

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AJHall

I am nowhere near egotistical enough to compare Elevated X to Google or Facebook and if you believe your own security methods are on par with theirs, that's impressive.

We have a free, very basic login and auth mechanism for smaller sites who don't want to pay for something like ProxyPass - which BTW also does not handle the member data or manage the members - But we have not opted to go beyond that and feel this to be good business. Storing that kind of data online is extremely risky for a CMS client and for all collective clients should there be a wide scale breach.

As I eluded to above, when you have as high profile clientele as we do, the value in someone hacking them goes way up and along with it, so does our liability. How valuable is the member data of 10 of your most prized clients combined in comparison to say, the collective member data of sites like Playboy, Playgirl or those run by Gamelink that use Elevated X? We and our users are being hit nonstop, every single day.

This is also why we and our clients rely on web hosts instead of self-hosting and why clients that size pay what they do for managed hosting from sources like NationalNet, MojoHost, ISPrime or work with someone like Dweeks at Swiftwill who not only has experience dealing with YouPorn or Pornhub level traffic and hack attempts but also prides themselves on their security. We'd never pretend to be able to provide clients anywhere remotely comparable to that on a hosting level. If this makes Elevated X inferior to you in your mind, I'm okay with that.

Until we are confident that we can do the membership/content protection job as well or better than ProxyPass, we will continue not to have integrated membership management and site security features.

It's good if it makes you you feel superior and that your self-made security system suits your needs but until we can do it better than they can, I sleep much better at night knowing my clients' sites are protected by someone who is a true expert in that area.

We'll have to just agree to disagree on what's a negative or a lacking feature.

AJ

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AJHall

BTW Ryan when I said that's impressive - I meant that sincerely, not as a snide remark. Anything on the level of what companies like Google or Facebook do is impressive to me.

AJ

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plsureking

damnit, now i have to skim what you wrote. maybe later. its usually sales pitch drivel..

edit - yea i was right. just a lot of sales pitch paragraphs about the self-idealized greatness of your aging system. i could list a thousand other sites that use code-based logins. the two i mentioned are simply popular examples. we've seen the future of the adult cms business and we started heading that direction last year. i won't fill you in here because you'll just steal the idea like every other one we've had in the last few years.

keep fighting the good fight ;)

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Wordpress may not be exclusive to Wordpress BUT, you can use Wordpress to Wordpress your Wordpress

Furthermore, Wordpress

AJHall

Elevated X provides form based login as a standard feature. What we don't do at present is market features as a "site security" suite we claim is on par with something like ProxyPass or proven in this area the way it has been.

To even bring true data security like member data (beyond anonymous user names or passwords) into a discussion and make a data security comparison between an adult CMS and Google or Facebook would be asinine. I would never even begin to go there.

You seem to be uber confident in your system and its security and that's fantastic. Good for you and kudos for you for once again being so awesome and superior to everyone else and it's nice that you're a security expert to boot.

For now I'm content to let my clients rely on true professionals at that regardless of how much shit you want to talk.

AJ

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plsureking

ProxyPass is a quick fix for sites that have to buy 3rd party security but its not an end-to-end security solution. its a login script. any skilled programmer can replicate their script in a weekend.

how many add-ons and 3rd party scripts are required to run a simple porn site with your "solution"? let's see, the site owner has to rent your software, rent a server, pay extra for video conversion, pay designers and programmers to install the front-end, and then pay for a login script. any other hidden costs i'm missing?

the fact that you think ProxyPass is a top security solution is pretty scary. of course, you have zero technical background. maybe we should be talking about your favorite cat videos.

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Well your arrogance just blew any chance of me using YOUR product. Holy shit dude, nice way to represent your company.

How many other reputatble companies are you going to slam without revealing how your software is vastly superior? Where are the clients who rave about your "security"? As I said, I use ProxyPass (Proxigence) and I think they are a fine company with stellar support. They are a reasonable, secure system for paysite owners.

Security is always a cat-and-mouse game, and using the "any skilled programmer can hack your shit" argument is ridiculous. There are entire countries of asshat "programmers" who could sniff out even your security weaknesses, exploit them and make you their bitch in a weekend. So nigga please.

Now, having said all this, I DO prefer a one-time cost for a CMS rather than a monthly fee. But that's a business model decision, not a security one. Carry on bitch-slapping your competitor but it does not lead to consumer confidence.

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dyna mo

i wouldn't hesitate to have my next site be a porncms site, it's seems to be a solid product, i've researched it and communicated with Ryan about the product and services. ryan can be a jackass on teh gfy but that's the deal here, we all get to be jackasses here. he was quite professional answering my questions and such via email.

just like i wouldn't hesitate to get cyberseo's product if it made sense for me when thinking about starting up a tgp, which i am, they suck!

speaking of suck, the attempted thread hijack here by aj

plsureking

thanks man! yea my assholeness is solely directed at that clown AJ. most people don't know he got me banned from XBiz for challenging him about his cms. my posts were similar to what i post here (sans the insults), but his circle jerk of friends over there banned me. so fuck him lol

all our clients and anyone who works with me knows i get projects done fast and professionally. my gfy persona is of little importance in the real world.

i didn't actually say that lol

my post was not about hacking. that's a whole different topic...

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Dyna mo - If Elevated X wasn't listed in the original post I wouldn't have replied. ;)

AJ

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dyna mo

Ftr, both of y'all have solid products and services, I don't see any value/roi in y'all bashing each other.

plsureking

just for fun really lol

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Barefootsies

I have used both (among others). With that being said, IMHO I would recommend PornCMS hands down any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. It was very easy to learn, and I had a site migrated and completely set up and online in literally 24-48 hours with content, models, model images, and all of the trimmings. One of the absolute easiest CMS platforms I have EVER used in adult over almost 20 years (been doing this since 1997, and like you I once did it all by static HTML).

While Ryan's forum persona takes some getting used too, ultimately you're looking for a cms that makes your life easy to manage, with minimal expense. Ryan's does that, especially for a multi site network. You do not have to pay for a bunch of add-ons, monthly recurring with one that are included in the other for free.

I can tell you that there is no one perfect CMS that I have found to date. But each has their pros and cons depending on what you're looking to do. MechBunny is awesome for some things, WP for others, PornCMS for others. Based on what you have talked about, my recommendation is based on that info.

That being said, I am not discounting your point of view on board personas. But I am giving you my advice from a multi website webmaster point of view who has been where you are, and learned the hard way. You want an easy to use, fire and forget, content management system that makes it easy to run your network. I would recommended PornCMS.

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You have convinced me. I retract my attacks on Ryan (yet still defend ProxyPass). If his product is solid then it is worth checking out.

Now play nice kids. LOL And get off my lawn!

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Does PornCMS have any SEO tool? Allows Page Speed optimization etc?

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muthisdev

Integrated is better if done right. It should have
* Captchas
* IP Blocking
* User lockout
* Delay on auth-failure.
* Slurp protection
* Encrypted password storage (multi-round Hash + Salt, or bcrypt)

And other security things.
You have those things? Great. You don't? Get something third party.
Don't fuck around wth login security.

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plsureking

liberal use of meta tags.
auto created sitemaps for google.
open tour architecture.

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