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				Adobe creative cloud
			 
			I have been using adobe for years. I signed up on their monthly plan about a year ago for $29.99. I just received a email saying my renewal is next month an the payment goes to $49.99 a month due to I was on a promotion deal. I'm not sure the programs a worth renting for $600 a year. Whats the best alternative for Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Premiere, ect..? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 piratebay - old versions 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 there is not much of an alternative  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 I hated it at first BUT I was using old versions of the Adobe software and didn't want to play the upgrade every year or so game. I actually don't mind the monthly fee. I can stop it should I not need it any longer. If I bought the shit for $2k I am stuck with old software that is worthless in a couple of years. When you consider that it is tax deductible it becomes a little bit more palatable as well.  | 
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		 I get the education discount. $17 a month or something like that. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	I actually go to school, but to get the discount they basically ask you where you go to school. I used my gmail account that I've already have, so I don't even think I had to provide my school email address. Beats shitting your system up with old pirated versions.  | 
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		 $49 bucks a month for the whole suite of Adobe Creative Cloud apps is a bargain. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I don't understand why people have a problem with it. Look at all the apps you get and you never have to worry about buying upgrades.  | 
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		 Its a bargain if you use it a lot but not if you just edit a few things here and there. Awesome software but it would be cool if they had a pricing structure for non pro artist and hobbyists. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 They get my money every month. It certainly beats spending a whole Sunday trying to crack some outdated copy of the software 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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 $49 per month is less than I spend on coffee in a week. If you want to use their tools pay for them, if you only use PhotoShop that's about $10 per month. Being a hobbyist or non pro artists really isn't a justification for a discount.  | 
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		 try sketch ($99, mac, best for website design) or gimp (free, pc, for other) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Affinity Photo for Mac as Photoshop 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Affinity - Professional creative software for Mac Sony Vegas for video editing Vegas Product Family Overview DaVinci Resolve is a grading software but you can edit pretty much everything in it as well. It requires a bit of getting used to it but it works great and it's free. Blackmagic Design: DaVinci Resolve 12 I would recommend asking google and testing few alternatives out. The 9 best alternatives to Photoshop | Photoshop | Creative Bloq 
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			Pixlr (in browser), Muro (in Browser) or Krita, GIMP or Paint.Net Dreamweaver: (this is a bit hard since there's no exact thing and depends on your knowledge, etc.. but take a look at these) Aptana, Komodo Edit, CodeLobster, SublimeText, Atom Premiere: - For complex video editing: HitFilm Express or VideoPad Editor - For simple video stuff (cut and compress): Avidemux, Handbrake, Freemake, Youtube Editor (in browser) Now these are all free tools. They are not as powerful as Adobe but if you combine them you might end-up with the same results in the end... There are many options out there so take your time and explore them all (try them out)... The big question for you - is it worth the hustle... if it is than go for it! You didn't said PC or Mac... My list above is software for PC. 
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		 That is a funny thread. Pretenders everywhere. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 shut the fuck up dumbass..  I'm not paying 600/year to use something maybe once a month. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 For those who are not professionals there are many alternatives that will do...but for use pros there is no substitute for Photoshop.  | 
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 I'd like to keep up with photoshop and learn illustrator, but it's not worth paying $400/year for those two programs.  | 
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 Next you'll be saying you want a $2000 computer for $20 a month because you only use it sometimes.  | 
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 $2k computer is a one time investment and you OWN it.. I would prefer paying $600 one time than $20 a month. Hate commitments and monthly expenses.  | 
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		 CS2 is basically free now  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Do you need to upload your video content to their cloud to work on it with their apps? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 It's def worth it if you use them all the time for projects and you make money with them. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Don't they have a 2 app option for like 20$ monthly or something similar?  Maybe it's just Photoshop and Lightroom, I can't recall 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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