pimpmaster9000

wait so you pay insurance and then you pay again?

well if its annual then its 400/monthx12=4800 so its 7.2% of your annual income

you spend one entire month per year working to pay for health insurance, that makes you pay in case of anything...

do americans like being financially dominated? seriously, this seems to be a thing...does it turn you on when they split dental from medical (LOL) and then make you pay 2x and each time its rape?

you guys are strange...for real...

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Horatio Caine

Yep dipshit, it's called deductible. Once I pay m $300 a year deductible its free afterwards. Thats how shit works in civilized world. No bribes, no bottles of wine of packs of coffee. No waiting lines. My dental is probably $30 a month. I spent more on 3 beers at the bar last night

Making $300 a month and pimping your sister must suck a bit. So you be crying my little SErb peasant.

OneHungLo

I guess this is how 3rd worlders gets back at us for dropping all those bombs.

Hey crucifissio, I pay my landscaper $100 a week to maintain my lawn. Go start a new thread and tell us all about your $10 serbian lawn mowing.

Horatio Caine

Lawn mowing? Come on. Boris and his Serbian bud live in one of these architectural beauties. No wonder it cost him $500 to "remodel" entire bathroom. My guestroom closet is at least 3 times bigger than average russian bathrooms.

pimpmaster9000

"deductible"

so you pay 400$/month to your healths owners, the US gov and corporations, and they you pay AGAIN when you actually need your health serviced

but,

when they fuck you up the ass, its deductible<-----the best argument you had


oh its deductible LOL

well that changes everything doesnt it?

its like getting fucked, then after the fucking, they apply a little lube

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If an average Serb earns $300 a month, he can do 30 MRI for that money. Right? The MRI price in the USA is $2,700. What's the average salary in the US? How much you should earn to afford the same that a regular Serb can have for his money? $81,000 USD a month? According to this simple logic course I will prefer Serbia over the USA.

I didn't live in Serbia, so I'll better speak for my country. In other thread I have explained why a person here who earns $1000 a month has more money in his pocket (actually he simple keeps all $1000) than a person who earns $5000 in the States. I'm talking about cash after all mandatory payments (obamacare, taxes, etc). Now add to this a huge difference in purchasing power. After financial crisis, I can afford here much more than in the USA for the same amount of dollars. This does not apply to medicine only. This applies to almost everything. E.g. some clown from Florida has made a new shower room and he has spent almost 10x more money than me (that's a coincidence, but I also got a new shower room last autumn). And I believe that my shower room is better than his (course it's a matter of taste). How come? That's because I've paid much less than him to the workers, I've saved on transportation etc. Also I pay much less for water, electrics etc.

P.S. Somehow we have invented a new index as a measure of standard of living. The MRI index

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P.P.S That's not actually correct. For $700 a month you will have as many MRI's as your doctor say (perhaps one or zero). You can't just go to any private clinic and say: "I want MRI of left hand, right hand, both legs, brain and spine. Go do it because I want it. Hey, I pay $700 a month, so do what I say!" Can you do this? No, you can't, while a regular Serb can afford that just easily, because he pays the money for every procedure he wants.

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Horatio Caine

Some do, some don't assface. Its well worth it rather than bringing bribes to butcher who calls himself a doctor.

Horatio Caine

Usually you have multiple MRIs for head injury. As a follow ups, dumb ass. Other wise why would you go for random MRI? Shit is scary enough. The only thing that get unlimited MRIs in Russia is cockroaches which crawl around you hospital rooms.

klinton

while I don't agree with a lot what you post, I agree with this 100 %

and why it is so expensive in US ? if you would have to employ person that already spent xx,xxx of $$$ for his/ her medical education (remember: university education in US is not free), you have to pay him a lot, just to cover his work and initial costs of education.
add to that bunch of lawyers that need to be paid too ("I will sue your hospital for one BILION dollars, because I am stupid and the cup with hot coffee slip from my hand and now I got burning sensation on my skin " ) and general exploitive nature of the whole system - and you have what you have....

L-Pink

$107.00 is the average net weekly paycheck in Serbia.

Lol lol lol lol lol lol lol


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Horatio Caine

One more fucking time. Don't have insurance? Too lazy to fill out paper work for Obamacare? Go to Public Hospital and have your shit done there for free. How do you think brassmonkeys or illegals get their medication or give birth to 10 babies? Whats so difficult to understand. Yes, its overpriced when comparing to Russia, Rwanda or Bolivia. Sucks? Don't think so. Best doctors in the world with best facilities. You won't see this shit in our hospitals.

Horatio Caine

Lots of horny German tourist to serve.

klinton

it's WAY overpriced even when you compare it to the most of Europe (except Switzerland maybe )

Horatio Caine

Remind me what's income tax like in France or Sweden. Lets talk about "that" Europe, not Serbia, Russia or Rwanda. Lets calculate how much of that income tax goes towards "free" healthcare and compare it to the US where 45% of its people pay zero tax.

klinton

I'm talking about PRIVATE clinics/hospitals here (Europe) and there (US).
Here they are few times cheaper.....

Horatio Caine

Most if not all clinics here are private. We have public non-profit hospitals, but I don't think they belong to US government. What is so difficult to understand?
So you pay 40% income tax in France, We pay 20% plus the cost of health insurance.

L-Pink

I just spent a weeks Serb salary on lunch today! Lol lol


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Paul Markham

Not true. There are boards deciding who gets what. Even if denying leads to death, it's still denied.

Not true again. It's overpriced compared to any other country in the world. Even where students have to pay for their University education. And there are lawyers waiting to serve malpractice writs.

Horatio Caine don't drag Income Tax into it. We're discussing what countries spend on only the Health Services per capita. So whether it's income tax or Health Insurance the figure spent is the same.

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klinton

what if American that pays 20 % of tax will go to France to get medical treatment that will be x times cheaper than in US ?
I'm sorry but I don't see any connection in taxes for public healthcare and cost of private clinics/ hospitals....
if the taxes in US are lower, the clinics/ private hospitals, should be cheaper too.......by your "logic"
also, lets take sample Frenchie that doesnt give a fuck about any insurance at all. he will just show up in any private hospital/ clinic in his country and he will still pay few times less than he would be in US (also in private hospital/ clinic/ whatever), for, lets say ...MRI....

spads

This is the situation in Romania.

Romania's Health Care System Is So Broken, Doctors Are Fleeing the Country | VICE | United States

Now take into consideration that Russia is pretty much tied in quality of life with Romania and Serbia is about 15 spots lower. Somehow I don't think their healthcare is as good as the US LMAO :D

Horatio Caine

Go do your fucking jigsaw puzzles Paul

Horatio Caine

Why would it be cheaper? Where is your logic? Your taxes include healthcare benefits, ours too but only for public hospitals. I pay extra for private hospital insurance so I don't have to wait in line for 2 hours. You people are retarder or something? let frenchie go and do what frenchie wants.I don't give a fuck. If he likes to pay 3 euros for espresso, let him. I don't and won't. I don't drink coffee and I don't think its worth 3 fucking euros. When frenchie comes here, let him buy travelers insurance and he can cut and put his dick back in place as many times as he wants. He should be covered by it.

spads

It goes further than income tax. Most European countries have insane levels of VAT on everything (21% here in CZ). Even basic food items are highly taxed (again it's around 14% in CZ).

Horatio Caine

This is ambulance service in Russia. Keep in mind, whoever this dude is, I'm guessing he's a B list celebrity and former national player. Took 1.5 hours for ambulance to get to his place. You want this free service?

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klinton

said Frenchie will do exactly the same thing in France and he will pay x times less than you in US
ps. I dont know, should I write all in capital letters to make you understand it or what ?

klinton

yet, the food of good quality in Czech is still cheaper than in US....:1or glaugh

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klinton

got to love Americans then.... best customers !
"thank you, please come again" !

Horatio Caine

Frenchie ALREADY paid for his health services when he paid 40% income tax, dummie.

klinton

you have no idea what you talk about... maybe in your New York hood cheap young girls=crackwhores :-)

Horatio Caine

I dare you to find Angus beef steak for 10 bucks in your Czech republic. LOL. Make us all jealous with your bratwurst and mashed potatoes, son

klinton

and that Frenchie doesnt know shit about tax optimization ?
yet, still... no connection whatsoever with PRIVATE health care...
even if ->>> you still pay more
if it is so wine and roses in US with healthcare and people shit money because they dont pay any tax at all - or only 20 %, why so many people go to, lets say, Mexico to get their teeth in order ?
anyway, CyberSeo says that in Russia there is 6 % tax, so I think that both of you should do some competition in another thread..or sth....
i just checked MRI price in Poland, its around 150-200 bucks, average salary ~800 bucks ->> 5 MRIs done.
2,000 for MRI in US, does average American earn 10 K month ?

klinton

edit: ops, just checked , MRI of whole body is around 125 USD in another clinic....
and yeah yeah...I know...the clinic is in ruins, there is a mold on walls, and there are goats running everywhere

Horatio Caine

Seriously? WTF?



And I have never heard anyone say they are going to mexico to get their teeth fixed. I know people go to Columbia to get new tits or do minor plastic sergeries in S. Korea, but not Mexico.

klinton

probably not enough machines that make "ping", that's why its so cheap here:1orgl augh


.....and putting aside the fact that this sketch is actually joke of public health service in UK

Horatio Caine

Congrats. Here's room of people who gives a fuck how much MRI cost in Poland or Nigeria.

klinton

sure bro, do MRI of little toe and pay 400

Horatio Caine

I did one on my knee and paid $200 I think. Why would you do MRI on a toe? Must be a Polak thing.
Any more questions?

L-Pink

Yes, the steakhouse bill for lunch today was $116 and service was excellent. I tipped the waitress a full days wages for a Serb. Was that enough?


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just a punk

That's not correct actually. A flat income tax in Russia is 13% - doesn't matter if you make 3 RUB or a 1 billion a month. Only small business/individual entrepreneurs like me can use a so-called simplified tax form and pay only 6%. To do so, you just have to register in the tax inspection office. Those who don't register will still have to pay 13% of their income.

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L-Pink

That sure sounds nice and simple.

just a punk

Also we have something similar in a penalty system as well. E.g. if you have violated some traffic code and were fined by a police officer, you have to pay just a half (50%) of that money, in case if you do it within 20 days.

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L-Pink

The U.S. tax code is more than 74,000 pages.

just a punk

Ours is big as well: Russian Tax Code (taxes for regional invest projects, controlled foreign companies, law-enforcement departments/the investigating authorities, excises and blah-blah-blah). However the actual tax system is very simple for regular citizens (13%) and individual entrepreneurs/small business (6%). It's flat and easy.

If you'll get caught with a tax evasion (actually it's an extremely hard thing to prove), you will be fined for up to 20%-40% of the amount of the unpaid tax according to the article 122 of Russian Criminal Code (Google translate). Yes, Soviet Russia is a very repressive country and that's why our laws are so severe. However even with whose inhuman laws, a tax evasion is a national sport in Russia, I'm not kidding now.

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poncabare

More government would be the solution financially

spads

If you factor in the average wage its much more expensive for food in CZ than the US for most people.

Paul Markham

So for ailments that are not an emergency. I'm right.

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The US on average compares much better than countries like Czech on many things. But not on the cost of Healthcare. We get far better value. Food I can't comment on.

Compare the US cost of Healthcare with any First World Nation and it's clear Americans are being ripped off. Even with Income Tax that some have to stick to in order to cling on. The end figure of what Americans pay and the rest pay shows the US Private Healthcare is a rip-off.

Income tax pays for a lot more than Healthcare. So including it is misleading.



Why Peer Nations Spend Less on Health Care but Stay Healthier. Seems it all started to change in the 80s, why?

UNITED STATES PER CAPITA HEALTHCARE SPENDING IS MORE THAN TWICE THE AVERAGE OF OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRIES

But keep trying to pretend it's all about income taxes. It doesn't convince anyone but yourselves.

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Horatio Caine

Paul, I won't be the first one to say that you are a fucking moron, so nothing personal.
Have you ever seen what people come to urgent care and emergency rooms with? Flu, dislocated thumb, knee scrapes, head bumps. Please shut the fuck up and get that jigsaw puzzle out. Thats the the only game you'd be right at. That and magic join links. Every hospital here has "uninsured patient" insurance. They get paid regardless.