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Old 03-08-2016, 11:05 AM   #1
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Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are not natural born citizens

Just found this video explaining what a natural born citizen is. Very straight forward and easily explained.

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Old 03-08-2016, 11:09 AM   #2
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You're a natural born retard! I mean "special needs" for the PC people out there
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A natural born citizen is someone who is in fact an American citizen at birth. Any child born to an American, no matter where they are born, is in fact an American citizen.

Cruz was born in Canada, but in fact one of his parents was American at the time of his birth.

At the same time... The entire birther movement was pure bullshit also. Even if Obama was born in Kenya, he was still a natural born citizen no matter what.
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Old 03-08-2016, 01:38 PM   #4
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Just found this video explaining what a natural born citizen is. Very straight forward and easily explained.

Houston, we got a problem!

Why did you bother with 12 minute video, leftard Rochie already had a quicker explanation.
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Old 03-08-2016, 05:46 PM   #5
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A natural born citizen is someone who is in fact an American citizen at birth. Any child born to an American, no matter where they are born, is in fact an American citizen.

Cruz was born in Canada, but in fact one of his parents was American at the time of his birth.

At the same time... The entire birther movement was pure bullshit also. Even if Obama was born in Kenya, he was still a natural born citizen no matter what.
You obviously didn't watch the constitutional lawyer explain what a natural born citizen is.
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You obviously didn't watch the constitutional lawyer explain what a natural born citizen is.
As a matter of fact, no, I did not.

I do not need a "constitutional lawyer" to explain it to me. I do not know who this constitutional lawyer is, what their degree is, what real experience they have, and I also don't know what agenda this person has. So their "opinion" means dick to me.

This was already debated when Obama and McCain's eligibility came up. We've heard the debates, had the discussions, and nothing has changed since then. I've researched this myself....

It's very, very simple. The moment Ted Cruz was born he was, in fact, without a doubt a United States Citizen. He did not have to apply for citizenship; It was given to him. This makes him a natural born citizen.

If that is not enough for you, the Naturalization Act of 1790 should be more than enough. It even says that children born abroad to US Citizens "shall be considered as natural born citizens". Done.

I disagree with this myself, and I believe that a basic requirement should be that a US President should be born physically in the United States (not Canada, not a US territory, not a US military base in a foreign country, not a on ship or a plane). But that is not what the law says.
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As a matter of fact, no, I did not.

I do not need a "constitutional lawyer" to explain it to me. I do not know who this constitutional lawyer is, what their degree is, what real experience they have, and I also don't know what agenda this person has. So their "opinion" means dick to me.

This was already debated when Obama and McCain's eligibility came up. We've heard the debates, had the discussions, and nothing has changed since then. I've researched this myself....

It's very, very simple. The moment Ted Cruz was born he was, in fact, without a doubt a United States Citizen. He did not have to apply for citizenship; It was given to him. This makes him a natural born citizen.

If that is not enough for you, the Naturalization Act of 1790 should be more than enough. It even says that children born abroad to US Citizens "shall be considered as natural born citizens". Done.

I disagree with this myself, and I believe that a basic requirement should be that a US President should be born physically in the United States (not Canada, not a US territory, not a US military base in a foreign country, not a on ship or a plane). But that is not what the law says.
That's not entirely accurate. Cruz's parents had to officially notify the US that their child was born in Canada and would now be living in the United States. That's not an "US citizen application" per se, but it is not an automatic acknowledgment of US citizenship either.

Although I would say there is a greater chance that Cruz is a natural born US citizen, I wouldn't say it is an open and shut case.
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As a matter of fact, no, I did not.

I do not need a "constitutional lawyer" to explain it to me. I do not know who this constitutional lawyer is, what their degree is, what real experience they have, and I also don't know what agenda this person has. So their "opinion" means dick to me.


It's very, very simple.
You go, Rochie!

Someone tell that lawyer stop explaining it in 12 minutes while it is actually "very very simple"
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If that is not enough for you, the Naturalization Act of 1790 should be more than enough. It even says that children born abroad to US Citizens "shall be considered as natural born citizens". Done.
You just said it, born to us citizens.. NOT CITIZEN.

His father was a Cuban, citizenship is passed through the father.
Yes the mother was American but her citizen status at the time of his birth is not known.
Watch the video and you will understand.
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That's not entirely accurate. Cruz's parents had to officially notify the US that their child was born in Canada and would now be living in the United States. That's not an "US citizen application" per se, but it is not an automatic acknowledgment of US citizenship either.

Although I would say there is a greater chance that Cruz is a natural born US citizen, I wouldn't say it is an open and shut case.
I disagree. He was an American citizen the day he was born. You said it all in your post - They had to notify the government, not request him to become a US citizen.

Did his parents have to notify the US that their child was born? Sure. Just like our hospital filed the paperwork when my child was born.
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You just said it, born to us citizens.. NOT CITIZEN.
When one of your parents is a US Citizen, you are also a US Citizen. Automatically.

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His father was a Cuban, citizenship is passed through the father.
Citizen is not passed "through the father". It is passed through the father and mother. If one or the other was a US citizen at the time of birth, the child is automatically a US citizen.

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Yes the mother was American but her citizen status at the time of his birth is not known.
If the mother was not a US citizen at the time of his birth, then he is not a natural born US citizen.
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You go, Rochie!

Someone tell that lawyer stop explaining it in 12 minutes while it is actually "very very simple"
Just because someone is a lawyer doesn't mean they are an expert or even correct. I am very confident we can find another lawyer who will completely disagree with the lawyer in the video. In fact, we can very easily find thousands of lawyers who will all disagree with each other.

For me it's a simple matter. A natural born citizen is someone who is an American citizen the moment they are born. If someone has to go through the naturalization process to become a US citizen, they are not a natural born US citizen.
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You just said it, born to us citizens.. NOT CITIZEN.

His father was a Cuban, citizenship is passed through the father.
Yes the mother was American but her citizen status at the time of his birth is not known.
Watch the video and you will understand.
Yep citizenship follows the father. IT is very funny.
My kids are all Canadian even though one was born in Korea.
They are Canadian by law but all monetary rights go to their mother who is not even canadian..lol
Regardless i put all the money Canada gives to kids into education savings bonds so she can't spend it on plastic surgery or coffee with her friends or cheap male hookers.
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