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Old 03-15-2016, 10:01 AM   #1
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bronco67, who will be the president of US?

Since you are ranting against Trump in a tone that suggest he will not be the next president and you already stated that neither Hilary, nor commie will be president:

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Neither Bernie or Clinton will be president. They're bad choices, but an even worse choice will be made because America will "go stupid" this time and put a Republican in the White House for some strange reason.
Who will it be then?
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:15 AM   #2
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:22 AM   #3
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Someone I don't like will be president.

You probably won't believe this, but my favorite candidate on either side is John Kasich. I've started to appreciate him a lot over the past few weeks. He has a few views I don't care for, but he speaks with common sense...and as he has said himself, he's the only adult on the debate stage.

and I'm not saying Trump won't be president (as I thought before). I think there may be a chance America will be stupid enough to put that clown in the White House out of spite.
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Someone I don't like will be president.
that doesn't narrow it down.
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haha.... i glanced and thought "who does that look like"... you're right. it looks like 1/2 Martin, 1/2 Charlie or something.
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Don?t Sleep On Illinois And Missouri ? They Could Help Make Trump Unstoppable | FiveThirtyEight good read explaining possible scenarios of Trump reaching majority of delegates.
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Don?t Sleep On Illinois And Missouri ? They Could Help Make Trump Unstoppable | FiveThirtyEight good read explaining possible scenarios of Trump reaching majority of delegates.
trump already is unstoppable. I don't think he even needed Florida or Ohio.
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All my people Write in Traviss Solomon 2016 for prez.. Monkey Party.. There will be no assanation..
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trump already is unstoppable. I don't think he even needed Florida or Ohio.
Good thing since he lost Ohio
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Old 03-17-2016, 04:54 AM   #13
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trump already is unstoppable. I don't think he even needed Florida or Ohio.
How so? I read that he needs to be at 719 delegates now in order to stay on track and he has less that that, when all counted, still less than 700 I believe.

Winner-Take-All Arizona Primary and Majority-Take-All Utah Caucus May Determine Trump's First Ballot Nomination Chances - Breitbart this also does not see like he is a lock already.

Also count the fact that there are less people running, anti trumspetr vote will mostly go to others.

Would like to hear why do you think that he is already unstoppable.
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How so? I read that he needs to be at 719 delegates now in order to stay on track and he has less that that, when all counted, still less than 700 I believe.

Winner-Take-All Arizona Primary and Majority-Take-All Utah Caucus May Determine Trump's First Ballot Nomination Chances - Breitbart this also does not see like he is a lock already.

Also count the fact that there are less people running, anti trumspetr vote will mostly go to others.

Would like to hear why do you think that he is already unstoppable.
Because all he has to do is win at the rate he's been going.
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One theory out there is that when trump wins the GOP nod, Koch & co could have Romney/Kasich run a moderately conservative campaign on an independent ticket bc if no candidate gets 270 delegates, congress gets to decide the winner. Romney/Kasich would def win Ohio/Michigan/Utah and if Clinton and Trump were to split the rest, the election would be decided by a Paul Ryan led House. Crazy stuff.
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Because all he has to do is win at the rate he's been going.
But wouldn't keeping the same be more difficult to do with less candidates?
Say with Rubio it is Trump 33 30 15 15 and without Rubio it can turn into Trump 36 37 20. As Rubio's votes will go towards other candidates more than towards Trump.
I remember poll which said only 13% of Rubio's voters would vote for Trump since Rubio is no more running.
On top of that there may be some strategic voting by anti Trumpsters, getting behing either cruz or kasich in certain states (where either one of them is big dog and another is very weak).

So all in all my main concern is - same rate winning may be harder now...
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Old 03-23-2016, 02:01 AM   #17
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Just exactly what I was predicting in the post ^ above:

Rubio gone hurts Trump:

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A poll commissioned by the Deseret News, conducted in the days before Rubio dropped out, pegged Cruz at 42 percent, Trump at 21 percent, Rubio at 17 percent and Kasich at 13 percent.
With rubio Cruz might not have gotten majority in Utah. And that will play major role in the future.

Strategic voting I was talking about:

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Sen. Mike Lee and Glenn Beck campaigned around the state for Cruz this weekend, warning Utahns that a vote for Kasich is a vote for Trump.
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Romney: “I would have voted for him in Ohio,” the 2012 nominee wrote on Facebook. “But a vote for Governor Kasich in future contests makes it extremely likely that Trumpism would prevail."
Now add this tracker:

The Most Important States On Trump?s Path To 1,237 Delegates | FiveThirtyEight

He falls pretty short on 1237 target (and bare in mind that this tracker has Utah delegates for him, which he did not get). So even shorter.


So I just repeat myself - I do not see how he is unstoppable. Failure is very likely.
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Old 03-23-2016, 03:12 AM   #18
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So I just repeat myself - I do not see how he is unstoppable. Failure is very likely.
nah man, the party will get it together. what your seeing today is a bunch of spoiled conservatives mad that an outsider cleaned their clocks. they will get over it as the returns continue to show trump is the most popular candidate. How can the GOP look at donalds TURNOUT & ignore that? he will make that case to the party poohbahs at the convention.

i bet the GOP convention is boring, save for BLM protesters & the media pretending they matter. while the dems have a hell of a convention, once FBI spills the blood on hillz. If dems cant back hilary, they have nothing but terrible options.

whenever it happens, the demise of hilary will be a magnificant implosion. would be nice to see her die at the convention. But she would quit first. no, let her win the nom, & lose to trump in 49 out of 50 states. then make a concession speech, & get blamed for the demise of the democratic party.

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I meant failure to gather 1237 before the convention.
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