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Old 02-15-2016, 06:07 PM   #1
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Funny Shit - UK Porn Laws/Age Verification...

Government launches porn site age checks consultation - BBC News

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Even so, one of the most visited free sites for pornography has already signalled its intention to co-operate.

"Pornhub will comply fully with any robust legislative and relevant local measures that emerge from this consultation," said a spokeswoman for the site.

"As members of the Digital Policy Alliance, we have already been working to carve out a technical solution which works for all.

"It's essential that all explicit adult content is covered, and non-compliant sites are quickly taken down."
On a serious note it looks like they are going after the processors - So if you do not comply you will lose your merchant accounts - That could apply even if you are nothing to do with the UK - You will end up having to block UK traffic - Not cool...
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Old 02-15-2016, 06:15 PM   #2
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wow so UK is trying to be like the USA? Even if you don't live in the UK you have to comply with this?
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wow so UK is trying to be like the USA? Even if you don't live in the UK you have to comply with this?
It's just my take on it - One thing that might be in our favor - Will Visa US for example take any notice of the UK government? - Visa Europe will, however my understanding is they are very separate entities...

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It is illegal to sell cigarettes and alcohol to kids, it is illegal to sell 18+ rated movies to kids, it is illegal to share 18+ content with kids (grooming), even if it is free...

Regarding Hitler - impressionable members of the Hitler Youth were brainwashed by Nazi ideology... just shows how what children watch can affect their minds...

It will become illegal to put 18+ rated adult content on your website, without thinking about and taking mesures to protect younger viewers. Those found guilty will be prosecuted and fined, even eventually face jail time. Any sites without a "safe check" in place will be immediately taken offline. It will be driven underground.

Porn wont be banned, just have much stricter measures (rather than none) in place.
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It's all fine and well protecting minors and having checks in place.

But there isn't really anything black and white what classes as enough protective measures in place... Age gate? Tick box? Disallow UK debit cards?

What's worse is there are no clear systems in place that are simple to implement for site owners to become compliant either!
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I guess it will be similar to the way that the Playboy Channel is regulated.

One solution is for all websites to switch over to a .adult TLD, and then ICM Registry can put a solution in place that allows access to all .adult (.sex, .porn, .xxx) websites in it's database.
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It's all fine and well protecting minors and having checks in place.

But there isn't really anything black and white what classes as enough protective measures in place... Age gate? Tick box? Disallow UK debit cards?

What's worse is there are no clear systems in place that are simple to implement for site owners to become compliant either!
I can't think of a way it can be done - Kids have Debit cards here - I can get a virtual number to use online in minutes...

The only possible way is for people to go into some sort of 'real life' facility and be manually verified - It's total nonsense - They will scare the porn industry out of the UK entirely - Of course that's what they want.....

People in the UK will just go to advertising supported sites who can do what they want because there is no threat to accounts etc. - Bunch of fucking idiots.....
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A scanned passport or drivers licence check should be quite simple. Of course that will become tedious for every single adult site, that's why ICM Registry are in a good position, in my opinion. One passport scan, and then access to millions of .adult websites.
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Also, I'm not sure about you, but I wouldn't trust most porn sites with my information/identification, however ICM Registry are also accountable by ICANN, and my info will remain private from the individual .porn sites themselves, only held by ICM Registry.

For small time porn sites, .adult is the future. If not all porn sites. In my view.
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Will they ban Twitter and other social media sites to make sure kids don't see porn?

That aside, the porn industry is 100% behind this move to block freeloaders from viewing their content. Under 18s traffic is as much use as Chines or Indian traffic. The problem is implementing effective filters to stop kids. Credit card as a verification is a nonstarter, for many reasons, any online box can be ticked by anyone, so the only method is what Germany has and that's a joke.

I suspect this will be kicked into the long grass or some legislation will waste Parliament's time and do nothing.
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I thought we already had age verification with the ISP filters which you have to be over 18 to have lifted. So.....are those not working then?
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I thought we already had age verification with the ISP filters which you have to be over 18 to have lifted. So.....are those not working then?

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I thought we already had age verification with the ISP filters which you have to be over 18 to have lifted. So.....are those not working then?
Most people didn't want their Internet access filtered and opted for the OFF switch. So this is to ignore free choice.
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Most people didn't want their Internet access filtered and opted for the OFF switch. So this is to ignore free choice.
Free choice? - lol - You have been out of the country a long time...
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Free choice? - lol - You have been out of the country a long time...
Coming back in April, only for a week. It's all I can take.
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Smart move by Pornhub supporting this. There are new free tubes up everyday with complete movies. Pornhub already has their premium service set up. They could set something up for England and may actually get paying customers again from at least one country.
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On a serious note it looks like they are going after the processors - So if you do not comply you will lose your merchant accounts - That could apply even if you are nothing to do with the UK - You will end up having to block UK traffic - Not cool...
MG aren't stupid - in fact they are genius... they're praying for the day all adult content is behind a paywall, and of course will 'comply' - read 'push for'. Traffic grab and SERP domination is done, now it's all on whether they can hold on to serps long enough to make an extra few xxx,000,000 on top of the existing traffic base.
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starting in a minute or two, interview on LBC about this, probably worth a listen Listen Live | LBC
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Also, I'm not sure about you, but I wouldn't trust most porn sites with my information/identification, however ICM Registry are also accountable by ICANN, and my info will remain private from the individual .porn sites themselves, only held by ICM Registry.

For small time porn sites, .adult is the future. If not all porn sites. In my view.
go fuck yourself you dumb motherfucker. fuck off.
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It's not just about payment, it's about secure age verification to protect children in the best way possible. This cannot be done by a payment scheme only, identification will need to be checked against the payment method, also phone verification on top of that.
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There are many issues with the ISP filters. Kids are more tech savvy than their parents for 1. It's an ongoing battle.

It shouldn't be solely up to the government/ISP providers to protect children, the content distributors should do their job also. It's far too easy to access free porn, pretty unbelievable really.
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go fuck yourself you dumb motherfucker. fuck off.
ICM Registry control the root of all the .adult websites, it will be easy to implement a solution.

Please explain, why will anyone bother to go through the age verification / payment process, when they cannot even see what is on the adult website?
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ICM Registry control the root of all the .adult websites, it will be easy to implement a solution.

Please explain, why will anyone bother to go through the age verification / payment process, when they cannot even see what is on the adult website?
i dont think you understand what im saying. Put your dumb ideas up your ass you stupid fuck. Go back to where you came from.
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i dont think you understand what im saying. Put your dumb ideas up your ass you stupid fuck. Go back to where you came from.
Also porn sites are one of the most (if not the most) targeted from hackers. Nobody will give their info/ID.
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Everybody will have to surf google and bing to get free porn.
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Also porn sites are one of the most (if not the most) targeted from hackers. Nobody will give their info/ID.
Do you have a brain tumor?
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Do you have a brain tumor?
On a serious note, you further prove the need for protecting children.
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On a serious note, you further prove the need for protecting children.
I'll take it as a yes.
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I'll take it as a yes.
You would do tho, wouldn't you?

It must be frustrating when people don't do as you want?
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You would do tho, wouldn't you?

It must be frustrating when people don't do as you want?
Trolls populating gfy is frustrating, but I'll get over it. Your stupidity on the other hand, incurable. Go back to where you came from.
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Trolls populating gfy is frustrating, but I'll get over it. Your stupidity on the other hand, incurable. Go back to where you came from.
You would know.
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In case you were unaware, .xxx was actually proposed to ICANN as an "integrated solution to improving child safety on the Internet", and was approved.
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You must be 18 years of age to verify your age verification. If you are 18 years of age and wish not to view the age verification verification please click "verify age to exit to Google" button, you must be 18 years of age to click the exit button. Do you wish to continue? no/no
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If you want to set up or implement an age verification system on your .com site, then that's no problem, however once it is set up, no one will be able to view the content of the site, so why will they bother signing up.

.adult is a better solution for 'customers'. It's easier for porn providers. What's the issue?

Also I'm not with ICM.
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Did they come up with a workable method?

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MG aren't stupid - in fact they are genius... they're praying for the day all adult content is behind a paywall, and of course will 'comply' - read 'push for'. Traffic grab and SERP domination is done, now it's all on whether they can hold on to serps long enough to make an extra few xxx,000,000 on top of the existing traffic base.
How will all porn be put behind a paywall and will that be enough for Cameron?

I'm 100% in favour of putting all porn behind a paywall. The boost to all of our incomes would be huge, to the level few here have ever experienced. The problem is it's impossible. All the UK can do is impose fines that will never be paid or prison sentences never served.

Will Putin sign up to this law, extradite Russians to the UK if they run a free porn site? So the next level would be to block all sites containing porn, Twitter, Google, blogs, social media, Vimeo, YT, FB, and all the free tubes that replace MG when it puts restrictions on its sites. Of course I'm using the porn definition of anything more than a Page 3 Girl.

Which poses another problem. A Government deciding what you can or cannot view. Open leg, Pink, finger/toy penetration, erect penis, straight sex, or ??????

It will be up to a Government-appointed Quango to decide. Like the BBFC, ATVOD. So forget about the freedom you have now. Read up on what the BBFC bans from R18, a very regulated form of porn licence. Jack Straw tried to ban R18, so don't expect the line to be fixed forever.

What is amusing is seeing the way some respond. Big Brother shouts boo and all the mice run.
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If you want to set up or implement an age verification system on your .com site, then that's no problem, however once it is set up, no one will be able to view the content of the site, so why will they bother signing up.

.adult is a better solution for 'customers'. It's easier for porn providers. What's the issue?

Also I'm not with ICM.
I will cut my own dick off if you are not with ICM you piece of fucking human garbage. Fuck off no one likes you and no one cares about your shitty ass tld, thats why we dont use them, fuck off.

Joined in 2004 and only posts about .xxx & .adult. WE DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR SHITTY AS TLDS! FUCK OFF YOU ARE UNWANTED HERE.
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Ok so smart kids will learn to google for uk passport pics to send out to verification guys:

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Make sure that the bloody ISIS beheading videos are freely accesible as well as jihadihotties sites.... You know freedom of speech... But porn God forbid...

But seriously this in the oldest democracy shows how it is now rotten to the core

And indeed he would approve:

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I will cut my own dick off if you are not with ICM you piece of fucking human garbage. Fuck off no one likes you and no one cares about your shitty ass tld, thats why we dont use them, fuck off.

Joined in 2004 and only posts about .xxx & .adult. WE DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR SHITTY AS TLDS! FUCK OFF YOU ARE UNWANTED HERE.
Did you have a bullying issue growing up or something?
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Passports will be checked against the payment method used.
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"It's essential that all explicit adult content is covered, and non-compliant sites are quickly taken down."

Ofcom's guidance on age checks for online video content suggest a range of options - from confirmation of credit card ownership to cross-checking a user's details with information on the electoral register.

"Age checking is nothing new," said Ben Jordan from Aristotle, which provides such services.

"The online gambling industry has been doing this for years and it's been very effective."

Dr Victoria Nash, at the Oxford Internet Institute, was the lead author of a report for the government on child use of online pornography.

She said that gambling sites may well also check registered users' credentials against data in the electoral roll or driving licence databases.

Dr Nash added that it was likely porn site age checks would use similar methods to ensure users are 18 or over.

The consultation document explains that the regulator of age checks on porn sites could be given powers to impose "sanctions" - including fines.

the power to force internet service providers to block sites that did not perform effective age checks.
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Which poses another problem. A Government deciding what you can or cannot view. Open leg, Pink, finger/toy penetration, erect penis, straight sex, or ??????

It will be up to a Government-appointed Quango to decide. Like the BBFC, ATVOD. So forget about the freedom you have now. Read up on what the BBFC bans from R18, a very regulated form of porn licence. Jack Straw tried to ban R18, so don't expect the line to be fixed forever.

What is amusing is seeing the way some respond. Big Brother shouts boo and all the mice run.
So you want little kids to be allowed to watch your porn videos?
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There are many issues with the ISP filters. Kids are more tech savvy than their parents for 1. It's an ongoing battle.

It shouldn't be solely up to the government/ISP providers to protect children, the content distributors should do their job also. It's far too easy to access free porn, pretty unbelievable really.
Holy shit you are a stupid bastard.
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"It's essential that all explicit adult content is covered, and non-compliant sites are quickly taken down."

Ofcom's guidance on age checks for online video content suggest a range of options - from confirmation of credit card ownership to cross-checking a user's details with information on the electoral register.

"Age checking is nothing new," said Ben Jordan from Aristotle, which provides such services.

"The online gambling industry has been doing this for years and it's been very effective."

Dr Victoria Nash, at the Oxford Internet Institute, was the lead author of a report for the government on child use of online pornography.

She said that gambling sites may well also check registered users' credentials against data in the electoral roll or driving licence databases.

Dr Nash added that it was likely porn site age checks would use similar methods to ensure users are 18 or over.

The consultation document explains that the regulator of age checks on porn sites could be given powers to impose "sanctions" - including fines.

the power to force internet service providers to block sites that did not perform effective age checks.
With anything gambling the rules are enforced with a rod of iron, they can easily lose their licence to operate if they misbehave - Porn is a very different thing...
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Holy shit you are a stupid bastard.
For example, kids know about VPNs, proxies, tor, anonymous, etc.
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For example, kids know about VPNs, proxies, tor, anonymous, etc.
And you don't even know why your stupid
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And you don't even know why your stupid
We'll see. I highly doubt this issue is going away. Normal people want to protect their children.
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