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Old 07-30-2016, 05:52 PM   #1
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First poll since the DNC has Clinton with a 15 pt lead over Trump

(DES MOINES) ? Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton has opened a significant lead over Republican nominee Donald Trump, now leading him by 15 points, according to a new online nationwide survey conducted on Friday, July 29th by RABA Research, a bipartisan polling firm.

Among likely voters, Clinton garners 46% support to Trump?s 31%. Libertarian Gary Johnson now captures 7% of the vote, while Jill Stein sits at 2%.

A RABA Research poll conducted the day after the Republican convention showed a tighter race, with Clinton at 39% and Trump at 34%. Johnson was at 8% in that survey, while Stein found 3% support.

?After closing the gap to single digits last week, Trump?s post-convention bounce has disappeared,? said RABA Research?s John Del Cecato, a Democratic partner with the firm. ?While Trump continues to struggle to consolidate support within his own party, Clinton has a sizable lead among independents, and is even peeling off a small slice of Republican voters.?

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It does seem that Hillary got a slight boost from the Democratic convention and has a slight lead.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...fab/ar-BBv2olX

I suspect it will be close until the debates. If Trump doesn't do well during the debates, it might be a huge problem for him.

However, Trump needs to carry a handful of states - Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is a huge issue because no Republican has won it in over thirty years.

On an Ominous Map for Trump, These 3 States Are Must-Win
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Only a slight gain. This time last week Trump was up by 10 here

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It does seem that Hillary got a slight boost from the Democratic convention and has a slight lead.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...fab/ar-BBv2olX

I suspect it will be close until the debates. If Trump doesn't do well during the debates, it might be a huge problem for him.

However, Trump needs to carry a handful of states - Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is a huge issue because no Republican has won it in over thirty years.

On an Ominous Map for Trump, These 3 States Are Must-Win
I have seen him off script a few times - It's not pretty - He will fuck up the debates for sure...
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Only a slight gain. This time last week Trump was up by 10 here

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Are you 12? How old are you? Serious question. This forum is for adults.

If Trump was up by 10 last week, and now Clinton is up by 15, that's a 25 point increase, not "only a slight gain".

Either you lie to minimize impact or you don't realize impact. It's the same with so many Trump supporters, either they are lying, or don't realize, neither reflects well on you.
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I have seen him off script a few times - It's not pretty - He will fuck up the debates for sure...
This is why I think Trump will get slaughtered in the debates.

Trump started his entire campaign by saying what he wanted, going off script, and never using a teleprompter. This worked fine for him early on. Now he needs to settle down, stay on topic, and act presidential. But during a debate there is no teleprompter. Not only will he be off script, and at the same time he will have to answer difficult questions. Trump got away with his way because the Republican field was huge with sixteen people debating at the same time.

Clinton, on the other hand, will be very comfortable with this kind of a debate and she can answer these questions with ease.

You know both Clinton and Trump are drilling on mock debates on a daily basis. It's possible Trump might surprise us. But if Trump does his little routine where he says vague stuff like "People know I will be great" while Clinton is ready to address issues in detail, Trump will just look silly.

I didn't watch the conventions, but I surely will be watching the debates.
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Are you 12? How old are you? Serious question. This forum is for adults.

If Trump was up by 10 last week, and now Clinton is up by 15, that's a 25 point increase, not "only a slight gain".

Either you lie to minimize impact or you don't realize impact. It's the same with so many Trump supporters, either they are lying, or don't realize, neither reflects well on you.
Hey dumbass, see the top figure in MY link? This time last week Trump was 55 Hillary 45.. Now it's Hillary 50 Trump 49. Slight gain.. Feel 12 yet?

Also if you scroll down you will see he is winning although slightly the two key states. Ohio and Florida. Also up in Iowa... That isn't just one swayed poll.. It's many polls and factors considered.
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This is why I think Trump will get slaughtered in the debates.

Trump started his entire campaign by saying what he wanted, going off script, and never using a teleprompter. This worked fine for him early on. Now he needs to settle down, stay on topic, and act presidential. But during a debate there is no teleprompter. Not only will he be off script, and at the same time he will have to answer difficult questions. Trump got away with his way because the Republican field was huge with sixteen people debating at the same time.

Clinton, on the other hand, will be very comfortable with this kind of a debate and she can answer these questions with ease.

You know both Clinton and Trump are drilling on mock debates on a daily basis. It's possible Trump might surprise us. But if Trump does his little routine where he says vague stuff like "People know I will be great" while Clinton is ready to address issues in detail, Trump will just look silly.

I didn't watch the conventions, but I surely will be watching the debates.
To me it won't be an issue of him going off script or not, it will be about his policy stances and plans. Clinton has been planning this and coming up with her policies and positions for years now. Trump has only been doing it a few months and he gives very few detail. He is going to have to say something more than just, "I'll get it done, believe me!" to win the debate. Clinton and Trump are both so polarizing at this point there likely aren't too many people left to convince one way or the other. If Trump comes off looking like he doesn't really have much of a plan and Clinton looks prepared and ready, it will be very bad for Trump.
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To me it won't be an issue of him going off script or not, it will be about his policy stances and plans. Clinton has been planning this and coming up with her policies and positions for years now. Trump has only been doing it a few months and he gives very few detail. He is going to have to say something more than just, "I'll get it done, believe me!" to win the debate. Clinton and Trump are both so polarizing at this point there likely aren't too many people left to convince one way or the other. If Trump comes off looking like he doesn't really have much of a plan and Clinton looks prepared and ready, it will be very bad for Trump.
He doesn't seem to have any plans. His plans are "No matter what it is, I'll make it great".

His plans for the VA are typical:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...ration-reforms
  1. Ensure our veterans get the care they need wherever and whenever they need it.
  2. Support the whole veteran
  3. Make the VA great again
This is not a plan, it's a mission statement. And it could be written by any high school freshman.

He goes into detail and says...

Increase funding for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), traumatic brain injury and suicide prevention services to address our veterans? invisible wounds. Service members are five times more likely to develop depression than civilians. They are almost fifteen times more likely to develop PTSD than civilians. This funding will help provide more and better counseling and care. More funding will also support research on best practices and state of the art treatments to keep our veterans alive, healthy and whole. With these steps, the Trump plan will help the veteran community put the unnecessary stigma surrounding mental health behind them and instead encourage acceptance and treatment in our greater society.

Well, that's great, but... What's the plan? The plan is the same crap politicians sling at us. "I'm going to create a list of bullet points of things I want changed, I'm going to put my friend in charge, and then pray the problem is never brought up again".
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The polls on Real Clear don't show that Hillary has gotten so much of a bump as Trump as taken a dip from his bump and came back to Earth.

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The polls on Real Clear don't show that Hillary has gotten so much of a bump as Trump as taken a dip from his bump and came back to Earth.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

None of those polls were taken after the Democratic Convention.
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Only a slight gain. This time last week Trump was up by 10 here

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Weird. Directly from fivethirtyeights site shows Clinton 60-39

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...forecast/#plus
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None of those polls were taken after the Democratic Convention.
They were taken during though. We likely won't see the full result of the DNC on Hillary's polls until the first part of the week.
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suckonthis definitely sucks on lying propaganda from the liberal media. 15 points? why dont you post 5000 points.

even a first grader can see how dumb you are.
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& why is anyone thinking the way trump will speak will hurt him. has he not already proven a dozen times to say things your crazy uncle cooter would say, yet he is even money to kick her ass?

when will you clowns realize he has teflon, & the headlines are going to carry him to the win? a combo of ISIS attacks, hilary email leaks & black lives matter cop murders will propel him to victory, without spending 10 cents.

you liberals still have no clue your going to lose.
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if you need to review history & not propaganda, review the new york city mayor election 1993, dinkins vs giuliani.

people were dying at a rate of 3 per day in new york city. so even the most liberal city on the east coast voted in a law & order guy over a black crime enabling liberal. & in a couple years, proactive community policing brought down the murder rate. times square went from rathole to disney.

the people see obama enables crime, ignores terrorists, & its time for a law & order president.

hilary offers only PC victim cards & sleaze. & you dumbasses think she will win.

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Bladewire so dumb he thinks a national poll can swing 25 points in a week.

Dumb dumb.
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suckonthis definitely sucks on lying propaganda from the liberal media. 15 points? why dont you post 5000 points.

even a first grader can see how dumb you are.




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Post DNC bounce. Trump was up by nine and now Clinton is on top. It just shows you what idiots some people are. Bouncing back and forth. I love lamp.

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I've been too busy managing affiliates lately... I'm also canadian lol! Can someone run down this election for me ? LOL
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Sounds legit...
One must be special kind of stupid to believe that +- tied polls swing 15 points in a short period of time only due to convention

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...tion-forecast/ - Looks like these gys did not get the memmo, +15 points, yet they have roughgly 50/50 chances, yeah right.

Sounds legit, indeed.
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Dissapointed that I read the thread title as "First poo since the DNC..."
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Clinton has a sizable lead among independents
lets fact check you in early november.
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lets fact check you in early november.

Ya know what's funny? 8 years of having a black President has left you on a shrinks couch screaming his name non-stop, how are you going to handle 8 years of Hillary? And if you survive that then you'll have another 8 years of Michelle Obama as President and the nightmare starts all over again for you.
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Wait for debates. She will have 49 point lead. Joshua will be the only one voting for Trump from his parents' basement.
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Ya know what's funny? 8 years of having a black President has left you on a shrinks couch screaming his name non-stop, how are you going to handle 8 years of Hillary? And if you survive that then you'll have another 8 years of Michelle Obama as President and the nightmare starts all over again for you.
What if Joshua G/ DynaMo was a sexy black man living in the South? What would that indicate about his political mindset?
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Clinton seems to keep going up.
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lets fact check you in early november.
Why do you laugh so much? Why did you do that?
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lol... exactly
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