Cheater affiliate: "Sorry, a person joined my link and used Proxy"

[adultmobile]

Affiliate signed up, spent 20 hours making fake signups for CPA, then asked payment. This happens almost daily, despite the affiliate area starts with big notices about we do not pay for proxy/vpn signups (and to contact before to start if using chat traffic etc.).

I write the standard reply like every day: "You are banned, your accounts are all made with proxy/vpn: [long list of user accounts all using proxies, none excluded - beside silly usernames and temp email hosts]".

Affiliate: "Sorry I had to have been a person who joined my reference link and would use Proxy. Apology as we do to solve this problem. And the money will I be paid ?"

Most do not reply, but the guy entertains. At this moment I remembered I did not logged in GFY in 2 months, so I could not resist returning in gfy, read some nonsense, and post this affiliate reply to entertain some of you guys.

[wehateporn]

I wonder if some Indian has sold a 'How to make money online' and put your site in the instructions

[deonbell]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I wonder if some Indian has sold a 'How to make money online' and put your site in the instructions

[adultmobile]

He replied again. he write in verses:

not really, I apologize for what happened
but I do not believe fake accounts and also
with proxy truth is pure truth must aver a
mistake I apologize for the person who
would be registered with or disposable
emails but I have to blame for that

[Relic]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

He replied again. he write in verses:

not really, I apologize for what happened
but I do not believe fake accounts and also
with proxy truth is pure truth must aver a
mistake I apologize for the person who
would be registered with or disposable
emails but I have to blame for that

Hard to say if Russian or Indian. Either way they're desperate.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by deonbell

[brassmonkey]

offer him a bag of apples. then say having a big meal tonight want pictures?

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Relic

Hard to say if Russian or Indian. Either way they're desperate.

sounds like a Leeds fuckwit trying it on to me

AdultMobile, tell them to get the fuck out & go fuck themselves

what wankers

[Relic]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

sounds like a Leeds fuckwit trying it on to me

[j3rkules]

Originally Posted by Relic

Hard to say if Russian or Indian. Either way they're desperate.

Then he has to be a Russian cause he is not using "sir"...

[Horatio Caine]

My favorite is "Sir, do you offer weekly payout without hold? If so I can send good quality traffic at immediate release".

[dillfly2000]

I sorry, me not sign up proxy with, I beg you me. good person am I not, America Great yes? Amen.

and so on...

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by jerkules

Then he has to be a Russian cause he is not using "sir"...

He is from Venezuela. Russians don't do stupid proxy signups since ages, that's only south east asians (philippines, vietnam, indonesia, india, bangladesh, pakistan) and south americans doing that now. Russians are hacking banks.

I passed him the video making fun of fake methods (the guy speaks spanish) telling him to have a laugh.

From hittp referer I see he came from this spanish blog:

Programas de Referidos Adultos: TubeCamGirl:gana 0.50 USD por cada referido español

[Klen]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

He is from Venezuela. Russians don't do stupid proxy signups since ages, that's only south east asians (philippines, vietnam, indonesia, india, bangladesh, pakistan) and south americans doing that now. Russians are hacking banks.

I passed him the video making fun of fake methods (the guy speaks spanish) telling him to have a laugh.

From hittp referer I see he came from this spanish blog:

Programas de Referidos Adultos: TubeCamGirl:gana 0.50 USD por cada referido español

You just destroyed Venezuelan economy

[PornDiscounts-V]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

You just destroyed Venezuelan economy

[klinton]

tell him that you will pay him in bolivars at the official government exchange rate to dollar

Originally Posted by adultmobile

He is from Venezuela. Russians don't do stupid proxy signups since ages, that's only south east asians (philippines, vietnam, indonesia, india, bangladesh, pakistan) and south americans doing that now. Russians are hacking banks.

I passed him the video making fun of fake methods (the guy speaks spanish) telling him to have a laugh.

From hittp referer I see he came from this spanish blog:

Programas de Referidos Adultos: TubeCamGirl:gana 0.50 USD por cada referido español

[CaptainHowdy]

Can't blame him for trying ...

[adultmobile]

Another kind of response is the one that they will write in all forums that we don't pay.

For example today a guy from Morocco:

Me: your signups are all from proxy/vpn, you're banned, please stop[list of signups with proxy ip's he used]

Reply:

--
fuck youu
scamer im buying traffic from traffic junkey you are asshole scammer iwill make posts on adult making money forums
--

Me: Ok, please have trafficjunky write me that you purchased traffic.
I can talk with trafficjunky and we solve this.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Another kind of response is the one that they will write in all forums that we don't pay.

For example today a guy from Morocco:

Me: your signups are all from proxy/vpn, you're banned, please stop[list of signups with proxy ip's he used]

Reply:

--
fuck youu
scamer im buying traffic from traffic junkey you are asshole scammer iwill make posts on adult making money forums
--

Me: Ok, please have trafficjunky write me that you purchased traffic.
I can talk with trafficjunky and we solve this.

Perhaps you should block third world countries to access your wm site.

[woj]

Originally Posted by deonbell

funniest shit I've seen in a while

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Perhaps you should block third world countries to access your wm site.

No really, my best affiliates actually are from second and third world, just that's 1 every 50.

By the way the guy no more replied to this: "Me: Ok, please have trafficjunky write me that you purchased traffic. I can talk with trafficjunky and we solve this."

I hope he wrote we don't pay, in whatever black hat hack forums he came from.

[marlboroack]

LOL, I love those fuckers

[Klen]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

No really, my best affiliates actually are from second and third world, just that's 1 every 50.

By the way the guy no more replied to this: "Me: Ok, please have trafficjunky write me that you purchased traffic. I can talk with trafficjunky and we solve this."

I hope he wrote we don't pay, in whatever black hat hack forums he came from.

Aha. Well, lucky for you they are too stupid to use residential proxies, otherwise you would be screwed

[TheMoneyMan]

This is the reason we deny a large portion of applications to our network. There are so many fraudsters in this industry and you have to be careful.

[Google Expert]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Affiliate signed up, spent 20 hours making fake signups for CPA, then asked payment. This happens almost daily, despite the affiliate area starts with big notices about we do not pay for proxy/vpn signups (and to contact before to start if using chat traffic etc.).

I write the standard reply like every day: "You are banned, your accounts are all made with proxy/vpn: [long list of user accounts all using proxies, none excluded - beside silly usernames and temp email hosts]".

Affiliate: "Sorry I had to have been a person who joined my reference link and would use Proxy. Apology as we do to solve this problem. And the money will I be paid ?"

Most do not reply, but the guy entertains. At this moment I remembered I did not logged in GFY in 2 months, so I could not resist returning in gfy, read some nonsense, and post this affiliate reply to entertain some of you guys.

What country are they usually from?

One way is to close down your aff program signup form and just manually approve every affiliate. There's only a handful worth bothering with anyway (people with traffic).

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Aha. Well, lucky for you they are too stupid to use residential proxies, otherwise you would be screwed

People able to use residntial proxy are not cheating cpa networks, but doing real jobs somewhere in a company. Affiliates even use hidemyass.com and such.

Example a GERMAN (not third world) these days:

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i registered last week for your affiliate program.
the last 2 days i brought some visitors on my link and i can see the
clicks and free signups in the statistics. But there is no entry
listed under 'earned'.

If I understood correctly, a free registration and verification of a
member from US, CA, GB, AU will bring $3.

Or do I get something wrong in the whole system?

Thanks in advance,
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My reply:
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The problem is that all the signups was made witha proxy/vpn, i.e. are fake.
Example:

Remhn 66.187.73.76
Jenetfa25 66.187.74.82
Kettykm 66.187.66.194
Kennq12 66.187.74.118
Agente34 66.187.73.185
Birdsas 66.187.66.146
Jamsd 66.187.73.174
camerdf 66.187.73.170
Arrysdgd 66.187.74.38
returng23 66.187.68.241
Cattyhhj 66.187.68.165
Rayfgkj 66.187.73.182
...

As you see all are IP 66.187.* range which is Privax (Hide My Ass) / optimal link
Also, all made from same pc, and using temp mails; I deleted all those accounts.

Please stop making signups.
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His reply is a deluxe version of "Sorry, a person joined my link and used Proxy":

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Oh sorry for the inconvenience,

if all signups were fake, i can understand if you delete them.
I didn't do the signups myself. Someone offered me to bring traffic to my site and he told me, it would be real traffic and no fake signups
I'm really sorry for this mess. I will contact him and talk with him about the case.

Thanks for the fast reply.

Best wishes
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For some reason, it is always someone else to blame...

Manual approval is what some programs do, but I prefer to have them all try make signups then ban later, to me it looks more smooth (and not more work) than manual approvals. I need some signups to see if they're fake after all. And, their replies are sort of funny, I am cynical and I enjoy.

[iSpyCams]

I used to spend a lot of time studying and carefully blocking proxy ranges, but now I use maxmind and it seems to stop them all.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by iSpyCams

I used to spend a lot of time studying and carefully blocking proxy ranges, but now I use maxmind and it seems to stop them all.

Yes it is quite trivial when you have database which can either detect proxy or is it ISP residential or not.