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crazyleg · 04-05-2003, 08:18 PM

Does it work? (MAKE YOU MONEY!)

Yes

or

No

Juicy D. Links · 04-05-2003, 08:20 PM

Suck my cock

crazyleg · 04-05-2003, 08:40 PM

not again, i told you it smelt too funny the last time

GTS Mark · 04-05-2003, 08:42 PM

RS = Crap

It used to be awesome back in the day, but the cheaters ruined it for the rest of us.

DH

ronbotx · 04-05-2003, 10:41 PM

I think its pretty good.....

1) It has Autosubmit
2) Human Emulator for semi-manual submits
3) Email confirmer.

RSII is in the Beta stage, still a bit buggy, but some great potential.

The big advantage compared to the others is that they are constantly updating the data base. RS II allows you add your own TGP entries. New version also has capability of handling preferred accounts, etc.

RS .NE. CRAP

koko · 04-06-2003, 12:17 AM

best one is TGP PRO followed by TGSW and Advanced Submitter. Why bother with that rusky piece of crap? It was good 2 years ago, not anymore. There's another free submitter that works better than RS, but don't remember the name right now

RussianSubmitter · 04-06-2003, 01:28 AM

The only thing I don't understand is how cheaters can ruin software for rest of you, DH? Maybe they also can ruin IE for others? SPAM your service, it's OK, DH, but if you didn't use RS for several months it doesn't mean that it database was not updated or software was not improved for that months, lol.

koko, I completely can't understand guys who just born in adult business and say somthing like ".. It was good 2 years ago.."

:
You never used RS, especially 2 years ago. We both know it.
If you did post expired login and password from RS here.

2 All, RS is still the only submitter with daily updated database, 4 in 1 software (gallery duplicator (RS-II last update Feb 2003) + full auto submit (new version. release date April 2003) + semi-auto submit (new version. release date March 2003) + confirmer (new version. release date Feb 2003)), with about 1400 webmasters who can afford to pay $25 monthly for that. If you can't - it doesn't mean that smth wrong with software.

peace!

Darren · 04-06-2003, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RussianSubmitter
The only thing I don't understand is how cheaters can ruin software for rest of you, DH? Maybe they also can ruin IE for others? SPAM your service, it's OK, DH, but if you didn't use RS for several months it doesn't mean that it database was not updated or software was not improved for that months, lol.

koko, I completely can't understand guys who just born in adult business and say somthing like ".. It was good 2 years ago.." :
You never used RS, especially 2 years ago. We both know it.
If you did post expired login and password from RS here.

2 All, RS is still the only submitter with daily updated database, 4 in 1 software (gallery duplicator (RS-II last update Feb 2003) + full auto submit (new version. release date April 2003) + semi-auto submit (new version. release date March 2003) + confirmer (new version. release date Feb 2003)), with about 1400 webmasters who can afford to pay $25 monthly for that. If you can't - it doesn't mean that smth wrong with software.

peace!

ur making $30k a mnth on that softwre then, not bad, congrats.

Darren · 04-06-2003, 06:12 AM

And I agree Drinking Hard its not good to slag off the competition

SomeCreep · 04-06-2003, 07:36 AM

autosubmitters will get you blacklisted like a motherfucker... just be prepared for that if you use them.

RussianSubmitter · 04-06-2003, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren

ur making $30k a mnth on that softwre then, not bad, congrats.

That is why I don't SPAM over boards alot.
But of course it costs money to get everything working fine.
So there no $30K anyway.

ammo325 · 04-06-2003, 11:27 AM

I have been using RS for quite a while and have increase my traffic and sales. This program pays for it self and it has a super team of techs and support in Wad and Popeye.

As for being blacklisted, I know of a buttload of TGPs that don't blacklist for autosubmissions. What will get you blacklisted is if you use it on TGPs that dont' take it. So it is better to take the time and figure out who might get ticked off about it. It is not the RS staffs responsibility to go through the TGP list and determine their rules, it is the webmaster that uses it.

If you haven't used it, give it a try.

models · 04-06-2003, 02:18 PM

Wad Coolin's Russian Submitter is just about the finest web-based software i've ever used.

RS2 version is superb. I can autosubmit 20 different galleries, get them confirmed and finished within 3 hours.

and about 3000 of those galleries will actually be accepted and posted on TGPs.

if i want i could triple my traffic by using their human emulator and hand submitting also.

but, the conversion rate on the autosubmit stuff is actually slightly better than the hand submit stuff.

don't know why, but it is.

and yes i get blacklisted a bit.

i don't care, my traffic is huge.

cluck · 04-06-2003, 02:24 PM

The reason the conversion rate is better on RS than hand submitted stuff is that people generally submit garbage galleries with RS for a quick bit of traffic. Therefore they are getting low quality porn from TGP's and their need for high quality porn is not being met. It's almost like the philosophy of TGP2.

As for my opinion on RS, I can make a good quality gallery and submit it to all the RS tgp's and hand submit to one good TGP and I'll get more traffic from that one hand submission than all the other TGP's combined.

koko · 04-06-2003, 09:18 PM

taken from http://tgp.russiansubmitter.com/cgi-...pl?action=list

01tgp.com

1001xxxpictures.com --> no

1001xxxvideos.com --> no

100asians.com --> no

18aa.com

1click2freepix.com

20pics.com

2400bps.com --> no

3ebony.com --> no

3xlinks.com

Checking just the first 10 TGP in your list I found 5 TGP not accepting submissions. Time to make your overpaid siberian commies work!

Quote:

RS is still the only submitter with daily updated database

and signing to this board a few months ago makes me a newbie? You're getting smarter by the minute!

anyway, the newbie finds what the experienced software maker can't!

koko · 04-06-2003, 09:26 PM

hey, are you planning to offer a 50% discount?

harvey · 04-07-2003, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by RussianSubmitter

Quote:

the only submitter with daily updated database

no, we have that feature since september last year

Quote:

(gallery duplicator (RS-II last update Feb 2003)

no, most autosubmitters if not all has it

Quote:

full auto submit (new version. release date April 2003)

no, same as above

Quote:

semi-auto submit (new version. release date March 2003)

ditto

Quote:

confirmer (new version. release date Feb 2003)

not at all

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but I gotta agree RS not only was the first of its kind, but it was the example for many to come, including ours (some of RS ideas are great, they just needed some tweaking or should be used in another way, which was what we did

) And they deserve all my respect for that.

btw, Wad, we can make RS2 work, don't know how it is set right now, but we can do it from scratch if needed and in less than 30-40 days. If you're interested send me a mail to design at data54 dot com and we can work something on this

Spunky · 04-07-2003, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by harvey
Originally posted by RussianSubmitter

not at all

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but I gotta agree RS not only was the first of its kind, but it was the example for many to come, including ours (some of RS ideas are great, they just needed some tweaking or should be used in another way, which was what we did ) And they deserve all my respect for that.

btw, Wad, we can make RS2 work, don't know how it is set right now, but we can do it from scratch if needed and in less than 30-40 days. If you're interested send me a mail to design at data54 dot com and we can work something on this

Fuck Off..Fix your own problems first before trying to suggest anything to the competition. R.S has you beat 10 fold dude.They answer all emails or complaints ASAP not like your service

Kaz · 04-07-2003, 12:28 AM

jesus, the thread is about the software, why so much hostility towards Russians? makes me fucking sick....

Broda · 04-07-2003, 12:47 AM

EEeeekkk... I feel dissapointed that no one mentioned GallerySubmitter.com in this thread.

So I figure I'd better do it

Mr Pheer · 04-07-2003, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by models

i don't care, my traffic is huge.

Well? Just how huge is it?

MetaMan · 04-07-2003, 01:33 AM

anything that start with the word:

Russian
Chinese
French
Oompa Loompa

means u r bound to fail with it.

harvey · 04-07-2003, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spunky1

Fuck Off..Fix your own problems first before trying to suggest anything to the competition. R.S has you beat 10 fold dude.They answer all emails or complaints ASAP not like your service

first of all, chill out, if you sent a mail, it will be answered tomorrow MONDAY, or you want 24/7 support for your free stuff?

Second, I wasn't talking to you, if your wife or girlfriend beated your ass today, is not my problem, got it, kiddo? Not to mention you don't have idea of what you're talking about

Third: aren't you the one asking for your TGP to be added, then going berserk about who knows what and yelling about your requests not being answered in the board? But wait... there's not a sinhle help request unanswered and you've just 2 post... and the 2 posts are the ones crying like a girl! Guess what, almighty God: some people use to work, even more, use to work in a professional enviroment with normal people. Neither I nor as long as I know my partners received anything from you but 2 complaints at a public board. Now guess again... can you imagine an scenario when we decide to ignore spoiled kids? If not, go get used to the idea

As for my offer, I just know Wad has had some problems with his software for some time, which I know we can solve and therefore make business together in a professional manner... but it would be too long to explain to you, L7

Go get a life and grow

DarkJedi · 04-07-2003, 02:32 AM

i dont use RS or any other autosubmitters so cant say anything about them.

but damn, DrinkingHard - that was pretty low of you.

Ian · 04-07-2003, 07:26 AM

I just went through another auto-submitter and after weeding out the non-related tgp's to my sites, the cheaters, the scammers, 404's, fake tgp's and sites that just don't put your page up etc...i'm down to submitting to 20 out of the original 1,000.

Better to save your money and submit by hand to specific targets.

RussianSubmitter · 04-07-2003, 08:57 AM

There 4 most frequent negative opinions

1. All autosubmitters - crap
2. Autosubmitter I made is good, the rest - crap
3. Autosubmitter I bought is good the others - crap
4. I don't want to pay, so it's - crap

Find your own here and relax, you're absolutely right. No doubts.

For positive opinions, usually people trying to post some proofs, and digits, and thanks them for it. But unfortunately when everything is ok with something, nobody post about it on all boards zillion times. Usually when something wrong.

My advice is check features, check prices, try (if you can) several services, find which fits your needs, and enjoy.
According to our service, you're always welcome and personally I will try do my best for your happiness.

Sorry if I hurt your ambitions, sorry that I'm russian, and once again - peace!

2 harvey, I think it's not so good idea about your help for RS2 at this moment, cuz my programmers are deeply involved in process for several months, so it's hard to start from zero. But anyway thanx alot for your offer. I think we can do something together anyway. Just hit me on ICQ:146846, we'll speak about it.

RussianSubmitter · 04-07-2003, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by koko
taken from http://tgp.russiansubmitter.com/cgi-...pl?action=list
...
...

Checking just the first 10 TGP in your list I found 5 TGP not accepting submissions. Time to make your overpaid siberian commies work!

Oh! we forgot to put complete urls for submit pages there on that page???? It's definately very pity...

Run Human Emulator and check every TGP from our database to be satisfied... Oh.. I forgot it will cost $25

PornAddict · 04-07-2003, 09:21 AM

I've had mixed results, but for the most part... they've been positive. When I post photo galleries, I hardly see hits... but when I post a movie gallery, I get a good deal of traffic from a lot of the sites.

- PornAddict

Ian · 04-07-2003, 09:31 AM

Russiansubmitter:

I also checked your submitter and each site on it a couple of years ago. I believe it was your 1st version. The results were about the same. Cheaters, scammers, fake tgps, circle jerks etc.

I'm not blaming you totally because I think that most of these sites are changed after you have included them in your list.

My thoughts are that if I am paying for a service or product then I should expect the service to police their own list and get rid of the dead weight and the cheaters and scammers. Why should I have to pay money to send hits to unscrupulous webmasters who run fake TGP's with sponsor code urls in place of galleries or redirects to lolita sites?

When I find a TGP submitter that does this I will be the 1st to sign up. I'd rather pay for a service that submits to 200 honest TGP sites than 1,000 sites where only 200 are honest.

Is this so unreasonable an expectation?

RussianSubmitter · 04-07-2003, 09:59 AM

Good position Ian.

First of all times changed (I've more staff now than several years ago and they becomes more and more professional from day to day) but we still adding TGPs on the same principle like a month, year or 2-3 years ago.

If there any chance that our user will receive even 1 hit a day from that TGP - it worth to get it listed for _autosubmission_.
If there any chance that our user will get at least 1000 hits a day from TGP - it's worth to get it listed even for Human Emulator.

And of course we have restrictions on sites, CP, Zoo, cheating faking and so on.

Until Nov 2002 we used a good method to know if TGP from our list sends traffic to our users, or not. We offered embedded statistics for our users. If they were agree to place counter on their pages.
Then we checked overall statistics from A LOT of users and A LOT of galleries. And we were able to find fake TGPs that didn't send traffic at all - easily.
But the problem was that statistics was not our own, but a cooperation with MegaTracker.com. And after overall hits a day on ALL galleries were over 10.000.000 it becomes very slow to work with MegaTracker. So we removed that counter and at this time we working under our own statistics system.

We also hurt by cheaters, we also hurt by russian (and not only russian) carders. You're right! Some tgps makes changes right after they get listed in database, just for showing their recip for example on users galleries. We trying to fight with all of it like you.
We made very smart spider to check for changes on TGPs, to make changes in our base or removing that tgp. Popeye (is our english spoken database admin) trying to get contact with tgp owners to see what happened.. and so on...
We just trying to do our best. It's impossible to get everything 100% functional... even according for computers but not for humans.

RussianSubmitter · 04-08-2003, 08:27 AM

and also for a small fee I can configure your RS copy to submit only to 200 best TGPs of course

Broda · 04-08-2003, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ian
Russiansubmitter:

I also checked your submitter and each site on it a couple of years ago. I believe it was your 1st version. The results were about the same. Cheaters, scammers, fake tgps, circle jerks etc.

I'm not blaming you totally because I think that most of these sites are changed after you have included them in your list.

My thoughts are that if I am paying for a service or product then I should expect the service to police their own list and get rid of the dead weight and the cheaters and scammers. Why should I have to pay money to send hits to unscrupulous webmasters who run fake TGP's with sponsor code urls in place of galleries or redirects to lolita sites?

When I find a TGP submitter that does this I will be the 1st to sign up. I'd rather pay for a service that submits to 200 honest TGP sites than 1,000 sites where only 200 are honest.

Is this so unreasonable an expectation?

Hi Ian,

check my sig; our database is always fresh

Also, you can disable all the tgps you don't want to submit to. By this I mean, those tgps you NEVER want to submit to, because you don't have to disable any on an individual gallery basis; this is taken care of automatically. Your galleries are only submitted to relevant tgps!

Darkystar · 04-08-2003, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Broda

Also, you can disable all the tgps you don't want to submit to. By this I mean, those tgps you NEVER want to submit to, because you don't have to disable any on an individual gallery basis; this is taken care of automatically. Your galleries are only submitted to relevant tgps!

nothing new dude, every tgp submitter must be able to do it

RussianSubmitter · 04-08-2003, 09:45 AM

Broda, you'd better contact with great guy Boldy, he used to run freetgpsubmitter.com.
I beleive he can give you some useful advises about maintaining free submission service for placing your sponsors banners.

No reasons to make same mistakes.

Broda · 04-08-2003, 11:03 AM

Uhm, come again RussianSubmitter?

RussianSubmitter · 04-08-2003, 12:33 PM

you da fun man!

04-05-2003, 08:18 PM	#1
crazyleg Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 77	RussianSubmitter Does it work? (MAKE YOU MONEY!) Yes or No

04-06-2003, 12:17 AM	#6
koko Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 112	best one is TGP PRO followed by TGSW and Advanced Submitter. Why bother with that rusky piece of crap? It was good 2 years ago, not anymore. There's another free submitter that works better than RS, but don't remember the name right now __________________ ----------------------- Bass player wanted!

04-06-2003, 01:28 AM	#7
RussianSubmitter Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 126	The only thing I don't understand is how cheaters can ruin software for rest of you, DH? Maybe they also can ruin IE for others? SPAM your service, it's OK, DH, but if you didn't use RS for several months it doesn't mean that it database was not updated or software was not improved for that months, lol. koko, I completely can't understand guys who just born in adult business and say somthing like ".. It was good 2 years ago.." : You never used RS, especially 2 years ago. We both know it. If you did post expired login and password from RS here. 2 All, RS is still the only submitter with daily updated database, 4 in 1 software (gallery duplicator (RS-II last update Feb 2003) + full auto submit (new version. release date April 2003) + semi-auto submit (new version. release date March 2003) + confirmer (new version. release date Feb 2003)), with about 1400 webmasters who can afford to pay $25 monthly for that. If you can't - it doesn't mean that smth wrong with software. peace! __________________ ICOOCASH: New amazing idea in adult biz! No shave, no bullshit. $50 per-signup, up to 60% revshare, $100 per webmaster. Unbelievable ratio. Signups never been that easy!

04-06-2003, 06:12 AM	#9
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04-06-2003, 07:36 AM	#10
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	autosubmitters will get you blacklisted like a motherfucker... just be prepared for that if you use them. __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

04-05-2003, 08:20 PM	#2
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Suck my cock

04-05-2003, 08:40 PM	#3
crazyleg Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 77	not again, i told you it smelt too funny the last time

04-05-2003, 08:42 PM	#4
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	RS = Crap It used to be awesome back in the day, but the cheaters ruined it for the rest of us. DH

04-05-2003, 10:41 PM	#5
ronbotx Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,634	I think its pretty good..... 1) It has Autosubmit 2) Human Emulator for semi-manual submits 3) Email confirmer. RSII is in the Beta stage, still a bit buggy, but some great potential. The big advantage compared to the others is that they are constantly updating the data base. RS II allows you add your own TGP entries. New version also has capability of handling preferred accounts, etc. RS .NE. CRAP

04-06-2003, 11:27 AM	#12
ammo325 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: LV Nev Posts: 467	I have been using RS for quite a while and have increase my traffic and sales. This program pays for it self and it has a super team of techs and support in Wad and Popeye. As for being blacklisted, I know of a buttload of TGPs that don't blacklist for autosubmissions. What will get you blacklisted is if you use it on TGPs that dont' take it. So it is better to take the time and figure out who might get ticked off about it. It is not the RS staffs responsibility to go through the TGP list and determine their rules, it is the webmaster that uses it. If you haven't used it, give it a try. __________________ Submit to Lostbush

04-06-2003, 02:18 PM	#13
models Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: chicago Posts: 118	Wad Coolin's Russian Submitter is just about the finest web-based software i've ever used. RS2 version is superb. I can autosubmit 20 different galleries, get them confirmed and finished within 3 hours. and about 3000 of those galleries will actually be accepted and posted on TGPs. if i want i could triple my traffic by using their human emulator and hand submitting also. but, the conversion rate on the autosubmit stuff is actually slightly better than the hand submit stuff. don't know why, but it is. and yes i get blacklisted a bit. i don't care, my traffic is huge.

04-06-2003, 02:24 PM	#14
cluck Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,248	The reason the conversion rate is better on RS than hand submitted stuff is that people generally submit garbage galleries with RS for a quick bit of traffic. Therefore they are getting low quality porn from TGP's and their need for high quality porn is not being met. It's almost like the philosophy of TGP2. As for my opinion on RS, I can make a good quality gallery and submit it to all the RS tgp's and hand submit to one good TGP and I'll get more traffic from that one hand submission than all the other TGP's combined. __________________ icq 279990726 www.mcdonalds.com <- great money making opportunity

04-06-2003, 09:26 PM	#16
koko Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 112	hey, are you planning to offer a 50% discount? __________________ ----------------------- Bass player wanted!

04-07-2003, 12:28 AM	#19
Kaz Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 199	jesus, the thread is about the software, why so much hostility towards Russians? makes me fucking sick.... __________________

04-07-2003, 12:47 AM	#20
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04-07-2003, 01:33 AM	#22
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	anything that start with the word: Russian Chinese French Oompa Loompa means u r bound to fail with it.

04-07-2003, 02:32 AM	#24
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	i dont use RS or any other autosubmitters so cant say anything about them. but damn, DrinkingHard - that was pretty low of you.

04-07-2003, 07:26 AM	#25
Ian Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,259	I just went through another auto-submitter and after weeding out the non-related tgp's to my sites, the cheaters, the scammers, 404's, fake tgp's and sites that just don't put your page up etc...i'm down to submitting to 20 out of the original 1,000. Better to save your money and submit by hand to specific targets.

04-07-2003, 08:57 AM	#26
RussianSubmitter Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 126	There 4 most frequent negative opinions 1. All autosubmitters - crap 2. Autosubmitter I made is good, the rest - crap 3. Autosubmitter I bought is good the others - crap 4. I don't want to pay, so it's - crap Find your own here and relax, you're absolutely right. No doubts. For positive opinions, usually people trying to post some proofs, and digits, and thanks them for it. But unfortunately when everything is ok with something, nobody post about it on all boards zillion times. Usually when something wrong. My advice is check features, check prices, try (if you can) several services, find which fits your needs, and enjoy. According to our service, you're always welcome and personally I will try do my best for your happiness. Sorry if I hurt your ambitions, sorry that I'm russian, and once again - peace! 2 harvey, I think it's not so good idea about your help for RS2 at this moment, cuz my programmers are deeply involved in process for several months, so it's hard to start from zero. But anyway thanx alot for your offer. I think we can do something together anyway. Just hit me on ICQ:146846, we'll speak about it. __________________ ICOOCASH: New amazing idea in adult biz! No shave, no bullshit. $50 per-signup, up to 60% revshare, $100 per webmaster. Unbelievable ratio. Signups never been that easy!

04-07-2003, 09:21 AM	#28
PornAddict Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,401	I've had mixed results, but for the most part... they've been positive. When I post photo galleries, I hardly see hits... but when I post a movie gallery, I get a good deal of traffic from a lot of the sites. - PornAddict

04-07-2003, 09:31 AM	#29
Ian Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,259	Russiansubmitter: I also checked your submitter and each site on it a couple of years ago. I believe it was your 1st version. The results were about the same. Cheaters, scammers, fake tgps, circle jerks etc. I'm not blaming you totally because I think that most of these sites are changed after you have included them in your list. My thoughts are that if I am paying for a service or product then I should expect the service to police their own list and get rid of the dead weight and the cheaters and scammers. Why should I have to pay money to send hits to unscrupulous webmasters who run fake TGP's with sponsor code urls in place of galleries or redirects to lolita sites? When I find a TGP submitter that does this I will be the 1st to sign up. I'd rather pay for a service that submits to 200 honest TGP sites than 1,000 sites where only 200 are honest. Is this so unreasonable an expectation?

04-07-2003, 09:59 AM	#30
RussianSubmitter Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 126	Good position Ian. First of all times changed (I've more staff now than several years ago and they becomes more and more professional from day to day) but we still adding TGPs on the same principle like a month, year or 2-3 years ago. If there any chance that our user will receive even 1 hit a day from that TGP - it worth to get it listed for _autosubmission_. If there any chance that our user will get at least 1000 hits a day from TGP - it's worth to get it listed even for Human Emulator. And of course we have restrictions on sites, CP, Zoo, cheating faking and so on. Until Nov 2002 we used a good method to know if TGP from our list sends traffic to our users, or not. We offered embedded statistics for our users. If they were agree to place counter on their pages. Then we checked overall statistics from A LOT of users and A LOT of galleries. And we were able to find fake TGPs that didn't send traffic at all - easily. But the problem was that statistics was not our own, but a cooperation with MegaTracker.com. And after overall hits a day on ALL galleries were over 10.000.000 it becomes very slow to work with MegaTracker. So we removed that counter and at this time we working under our own statistics system. We also hurt by cheaters, we also hurt by russian (and not only russian) carders. You're right! Some tgps makes changes right after they get listed in database, just for showing their recip for example on users galleries. We trying to fight with all of it like you. We made very smart spider to check for changes on TGPs, to make changes in our base or removing that tgp. Popeye (is our english spoken database admin) trying to get contact with tgp owners to see what happened.. and so on... We just trying to do our best. It's impossible to get everything 100% functional... even according for computers but not for humans. __________________ ICOOCASH: New amazing idea in adult biz! No shave, no bullshit. $50 per-signup, up to 60% revshare, $100 per webmaster. Unbelievable ratio. Signups never been that easy! Last edited by RussianSubmitter; 04-07-2003 at 10:05 AM..

04-08-2003, 08:27 AM	#31
RussianSubmitter Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 126	and also for a small fee I can configure your RS copy to submit only to 200 best TGPs of course __________________ ICOOCASH: New amazing idea in adult biz! No shave, no bullshit. $50 per-signup, up to 60% revshare, $100 per webmaster. Unbelievable ratio. Signups never been that easy!

04-08-2003, 09:45 AM	#34
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04-08-2003, 11:03 AM	#35
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04-08-2003, 12:33 PM	#36
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