Trump Immigration EO Shut Down by Frederal Judge

[Barry-xlovecam]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...ecutive-order/



TRO here> https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...1125162233.pdf

Loser BIGLY!

[Bladewire]

But... but... their king signed a piece of paper into law!

The Trump cucks are going to either TRIGGER or deny deny deny or quietly slip into submissive mode.

[Matt 26z]

The order is for currently valid visas only. I don't think anyone really expected those to apply to the ban anyway.

Trump knows how to negotiate. He ordered more than what he wanted so that after the dust settled he would still have what he really wanted; a ban on parasitic and terrorist "refugees" entering the country.

TRUMP WINS.

FOOLS.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

The order is for currently valid visas only. I don't think anyone really expected those to apply to the ban anyway.

Trump knows how to negotiate. He ordered more than what he wanted so that after the dust settled he would still have what he really wanted; a ban on parasitic and terrorist "refugees" entering the country.

TRUMP WINS.

Trump wins by being slapped down by the court

You are stupid. The 28 people represented are CITIZENS OF USA and/or have citizen family in the USA.

Only an idiot would comment on something he didn't even fucking read.

[beerptrol]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

The order is for currently valid visas only. I don't think anyone really expected those to apply to the ban anyway.

Trump knows how to negotiate. He ordered more than what he wanted so that after the dust settled he would still have what he really wanted; a ban on parasitic and terrorist "refugees" entering the country.

TRUMP WINS.

FOOLS.

All could have been avoided if chump would have done it the right way instead of using it as a photo op of him signing the eo

But thats his MO. Doesn't plan things out and expects everyone to clean up his mess

[Barry-xlovecam]

You are missing the point -- No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto law is constitutional -- an EO has to be constitutional. Trump must of cut class that day to get some golden showers or a bag of cheetos.

[Paul Markham]

Are you for a more controlled migration policy or anti it?

[Barry-xlovecam]

^Fred eral judge LOL maybe his name is Fred.


3 of grandparents were immigrants from Eastern Europe and Russia that settled in the USA over 100 years ago.
My America is all immigrants. Even the Native Americans were migrants from Northern Asia.
No I am not a xenophobe or a racist.

Islamic radicals are no more dangerous than White rightist (neo-Nazi or neo-facist) radicals, KKK, etc.

Muslims are about 1% of the population here. The Muslim percentage in Europe is a lot higher. Black and Hispanics make up almost 30% of the US population. When I travel in Europe I see these Muslims form Europe's underclass with some exceptions the same way the Black and Hispanic population forms an underclass with some exceptions here in the USA.

Too many of the lower class white people hate the people of color and the rich white people. When you are white and a loser you really have no excuse -- that must suck.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Are you for a more controlled migration policy or anti it?

Remember yesterday when I posted the infographic for our 2 year vetting of refugees here in America? Europe had no vetting of refugees, America has had a 2 year vetting process of refugees for years. You're drinking the alt-right coolaid regarding American politics.

[_Richard_]

lets hope border security respects the court decisions..

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Remember yesterday when I posted the infographic for our 2 year vetting of refugees here in America? Europe had no vetting of refugees, America has had a 2 year vetting process of refugees for years. You're drinking the alt-right coolaid regarding American politics.

I fully support the American system on migration and am appalled at the mess here in Europe.

My question is do you want possible groups who will not integrate and live among you allowed in?

Muslims have proven to not integrate, to put their culture above the culture of their new homes. Despite your friends and your personal experience in your bubble, I'm looking at outside evidence. They don't even like integrating with other Muslims unless of the same clan. Hence the constant wars in the ME and the way they live when they migrate.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...m_pop ulation

I urge you to watch this. It's from one of the leading lights of racial equality and he's black.



It proves you wrong. Warning about what will happen if you allow too many of a different culture to dominate an area. You must know this as areas of African American, Latinos, Italiens, Irish, Orientals have become identifiably different from the mainstream and vulnerable to high levels of organised crime.

This is happening today in Europe and the basis of all the wars among Middle Easterners from before Mo said he knows what god wants. Islam just justified the killing of others. Mo was the leader of an army, like Moses, David and others. Jesus wasn't, but it didn't take long before others decided an army was the best way to convert or eliminate doubters.

A bigger question that you refuse to answer is why does the West need these people? It could house them in camps in safe parts of Syria and Iraq so they can return to their homes and rebuild the country and send all the others back to where they came from.





Your stance of the West already has huge problems so adding to them is another thing I want you to justify.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Last time I heard they vote in Europe.








See Americans don't like brown or black refuges much either.

more ... Key facts about refugees to the U.S. | Pew Research Center
Most of the refugees we take in are Asian today we accepted a lot of Europeans also (this includes Russians).

Some Russians do not assimilate too well. Brighton Beach in NYC is a good example. We have had problems with the Russia Mafia and Eastern European gangs here. A century ago we were up to our ears with a wave after wave of European immigrants, the Italians of note, didn't assimilate too well and we had to deal with la costra nostra (Sicilian Mafia) for 50 years. Today's wave of Asian immigration has brought the crime syndicate of the Chinese Tong to the USA. Recent Asian immigrants do not assimilate too well either.

In general 1st generation refugees and immigrants don't assimilate too well however America's economic immigrants work hard to succeed for the most part and are a valued resource in many cases. In my area Muslims, Chaldean (Christian Iraqis -- economic immigrants most ) and Indians own small family run businesses like convince stores and small motets/hotels. Whole immigrant families will band together and buy and run these small local businesses. Chaldean's from Iraq do this a lot around here.

Like I said ^^ Last time I heard they vote in Europe. Adjust your immigration laws as you want -- last time I was in Europe, I go there a lot, they were free countries subject to the EU directives that they create. Saddam Hussein did not make your laws the voters of the European countries did. If you want to blame someone -- blame yourselves.

[NewNick]

Markham the migrant...............

[Barry-xlovecam]

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Are you for a more controlled migration policy or anti it?

paul, i think this is not the point.
no one here is promoting to let illegals or terrorists in.
i think no one can be that stupid to want that.

the point is that trumpeters are talking and acting without making a difference.
if there are 1 million radical islamists out there that are still only 0,06 % of all muslims in the world. i can imagine that there is a higher rate of murders within the US polpulation.

trump is acting like an elephant in the porcellan shop. and he have the sensitivity of a stone. he is telling peole what they want to hear but not what is the truth because the truth is even for him much too complicated.

trunp is doing everything wrong - not even his thoughts about immigration are wrong - he is looking in each and every thing for somebody culpable but not america.

i think nobody can be so blind not to know that amerca has caused his problems in 90% of all cases alone. and that is because the wanted to be first long before trump created that slogan. this america first politic brought US in the actual position. and instead doing something against that when there was still time, amererica was creating the biggest loanmountain in the world. now trup want to make the others pay for that and this is not acceptable. the world will do a shit to pay for americas mistakes of the past centuries.

if he REALLY would be that strong and honest man - he should tell THAT to the americans and not present them (same hitler did) the whole world as enemies and reasons for all that shit what came out of amercas own ass.

greetings
thommy

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

The order is for currently valid visas only. I don't think anyone really expected those to apply to the ban anyway.

People with valid visas are being detained and turned away, and denied access to the country.

Lives are being destroyed here. People who live in the United States on a Visa cannot return, and this happened over night and without warning.