Trump orders able-bodied adults on food stamps to work, train or volunteer at least 20 hrs pr week - GoFuckYourself.com

OneHungLo · 04-12-2018, 06:11 AM

Get ready to get your lazy good-for-nothing asses back to work

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President Trump’s new executive order on welfare reform has laid the groundwork to get more Americans back to work while protecting and strengthening the safety net for the truly needy. Federal agencies must take advantage of this opportunity to roll back harmful Obama-era policies that have trapped families in dependency and cost taxpayers billions.

Right now, America combines near-record-low unemployment with near-record-high welfare dependency — the result of state-level eligibility exemptions, federal loopholes and policies that put work on the back burner. Many of these policies created incentives for able-bodied adults to sit on the sidelines — even though there is good, well-paying work to be done. The resulting safety net isn’t a safety net at all — it has entrapped able-bodied adults in dependency and threatened resources for the truly needy.

But welfare reform can change that. And the Trump administration has just given agency leaders a road map to do so.

The executive order, signed Tuesday afternoon, lays out principles to encourage economic mobility through work — a tactic that we’ve seen succeed in states across the nation. It calls for a strengthened work requirement for able-bodied adults, building off the requirement established in the 1996 bipartisan welfare reform that requires able-bodied adults on food stamps to work, train or volunteer for at least 20 hours per week.

Despite evidence that work requirements work — cutting time spent on welfare in half, doubling incomes and moving adults into over 600 diverse industries — the Obama administration approved waivers for those requirements in most states, citing high unemployment and severe job shortages.

What happened when states no longer required able-bodied adults to work to receive benefits? Predictably, the number of able-bodied adults on food stamps skyrocketed, more than tripling since 2000, while the cost to taxpayers went up fivefold.

Even though unemployment has since rebounded to near-record lows and more than 6 million jobs are open nationwide, these Obama-era waivers are still in place and many states continue to operate expanded welfare rolls under them.

Federal agencies should follow the White House’s guidance to change that by declining to renew these waivers and strengthening the work requirement for able-bodied adults, returning the food-stamp program to the law’s original bipartisan intent and rolling back the unsustainable spike in welfare recipients.

Based on the experience of states that reinstated work requirements, this common-sense reform would move millions of able-bodied adults from welfare to work while saving taxpayers billions — ensuring the safety net is in place for those who truly need it.

The good news doesn’t end there. Because the executive order spans multiple programs — including Medicaid and food stamps, among others — agency leaders have the opportunity to bring much-needed change to all welfare programs. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services must continue to approve states’ waiver requests to implement work requirements for able-bodied adults in Medicaid, as more and more states follow the example set by Arkansas, Indiana and Kentucky. Agencies should look to eliminate loopholes that allow automatic enrollment into welfare programs without asset tests or other tests of need, and should look to implement anti-fraud initiatives to crack down on welfare fraud and preserve limited resources for the truly needy.

The Trump administration hasn’t been shy about its desire for welfare reform — and rightly so, given out-of-control enrollment and spending that has resulted in a massive dependency crisis. This executive order provides a pathway to a welfare system that protects the needy without trapping the unwary.

History and experience tell us that if federal and state agencies follow through on the reform principles the president has laid out, we can protect the safety net for the needy while filling millions of open jobs and creating billions of dollars in federal and state budget savings.

That would be a good day’s work.
https://nypost.com/2018/04/10/trump-...elfare-reform/

but but but he's done NOooothinnngggg

blackmonsters · 04-12-2018, 06:30 AM

30 year old Fake News

https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/able-b...endents-abawds

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Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)
Able-Bodied Adults Without Dependents (ABAWDs)
Last Published: 02/26/2018
SNAP supports work.

While SNAP is intended to ensure that no one in our land of plenty should fear going hungry, it also reflects the importance of work and responsibility. SNAP rules require all recipients meet work requirements unless they are exempt because of age or disability or another specific reason. (Children, seniors, and those with disabilities comprise almost two-thirds of all SNAP participants.) Forty-three percent of SNAP participants live in a household with earnings.

Some of these working individuals are ABAWDs, or able-bodied adults without dependents. ABAWDs must meet special work requirements, in addition to the general work requirements, to maintain their eligibility.

Who is considered an ABAWD?

An ABAWD is a person between the ages of 18 and 49 who has no dependents and is not disabled. ABAWD stands for Able Bodied Adult Without Dependents.

What is the ABAWD time limit?

ABAWDs can only get SNAP for 3 months in 3 years if they do not meet certain special work requirements. This is called the time limit.

To be eligible beyond the time limit, an ABAWD must work at least 80 hours per month, participate in qualifying education and training activities at least 80 hours per month, or comply with a workfare program. Workfare means that ABAWDs can do unpaid work through a special State-approved program. For workfare, the amount of time worked depends on the amount of benefits received each month. Another way one to fulfill the ABAWD work requirement is through a SNAP Employment and Training Program.

The time limit does not apply to people who are unable to work due to physical or mental health reasons, pregnant, care for a child or incapacitated family member, or are exempt from the general work requirements.

Why did the ABAWD time limits go away? Why are they coming back?

The time limit on ABAWDs is part of the law that governs the operation of SNAP. It has been part of the law since 1996. Under the law, States can request to temporarily waive the ABAWD time limit when unemployment is high or when there are not enough jobs available.

Due to the economic downturn, many States qualified for and chose to waive time limits in all or part of the State. (Even when ABAWD time limits are waived, general work requirements still apply.) Some parts of the country still have waivers in place. But, as the economy continues to improve, many places no longer qualify for time limit waivers, unless they have high unemployment or not enough jobs available.

ABAWDs participating in SNAP in locations where time limits are no longer waived need to take steps to meet the special ABAWD work requirements in order to maintain their benefits.

beerptrol · 04-12-2018, 07:09 AM

Retarded OP is at it again lol. Such a brain washed chumpanzee. Chump hasn't done jack shit except lfilled his and the elite's pockets

Many states already have some kind of work requirement to received benefits

OneHungLo · 04-12-2018, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

30 year old Fake News

https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/able-b...endents-abawds

Despite evidence that work requirements work — cutting time spent on welfare in half, doubling incomes and moving adults into over 600 diverse industries — the Obama administration approved waivers for those requirements in most states, citing high unemployment and severe job shortages.

OneHungLo · 04-12-2018, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol

Retarded OP is at it again lol. Such a brain washed chumpanzee. Chump hasn't done jack shit except lfilled his and the elite's pockets

Many states already have some kind of work requirement to received benefits

https://www.ice.gov/webform/hsi-tip-form

RedFred · 04-12-2018, 07:34 AM

Onedongsmall, asspimple, and onwebcam sits on this board day and night and whines about others not working. Apparently they think this is their job.

tfto · 04-12-2018, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred

Onedongsmall, asspimple, and onwebcam sits on this board day and night and whines about others not working. Apparently they think this is their job.

You conveniently forgot to add Bladelier and Crockett to that list.

Paul Markham · 04-12-2018, 08:03 AM

Making the able-bodied unemployed work for their food stamps and welfare is a good idea. I don't see what the problem is.

RedFred · 04-12-2018, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Making the able-bodied unemployed work for their food stamps and welfare is a good idea. I don't see what the problem is.

blackmonsters · 04-12-2018, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred

Onedongsmall, asspimple, and onwebcam sits on this board day and night and whines about others not working. Apparently they think this is their job.

They are old rusty fucks who live off social security check.

BaldBastard · 04-12-2018, 08:42 AM

They tried that here, costs went up

you want these people looking for jobs and should be giving extra assistance to find one or retrain.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...25-gvs8dl.html

A government-commissioned review of the program found the chances of a participant finding a job because of the scheme improved by just 2 per cent.

the money used for the scheme would be better spent in vocational education or job creation, which would more likely lead to meaningful employment.

blackmonsters · 04-12-2018, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

They tried that here, costs went up

you want these people looking for jobs and should be giving extra assistance to find one or retrain.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...25-gvs8dl.html

A government-commissioned review of the program found the chances of a participant finding a job because of the scheme improved by just 2 per cent.

the money used for the scheme would be better spent in vocational education or job creation, which would more likely lead to meaningful employment.

Yep, none of these "grinch policies" can work without job training and job creation.
But you can't really explain that to people who have never really dug into the problem.
People look at these things from afar and draw false conclusions.

blackmonsters · 04-12-2018, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Making the able-bodied unemployed work for their food stamps and welfare is a good idea. I don't see what the problem is.

Nobody has a problem with working for the benefit; the problem is that it is a farce because
there is no job to go to.

These policies are nothing but "pie in the sky".
Just focus on creating jobs and training workers because nobody quits their job to
go on food stamps because that makes life easier.
That rhetoric is the folly of idiots who hate going to work themselves.
They envision an easy life without worries if they had no job but the realty is that people
without jobs worry everyday about how to pay bills.

Food stamps don't buy toothpaste, soap, toilet paper, gas, medicine, electricity etc... So how is that an easy life when you can't even wipe your ass clean?

OneHungLo · 04-12-2018, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

They tried that here, costs went up

you want these people looking for jobs and should be giving extra assistance to find one or retrain.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...25-gvs8dl.html

A government-commissioned review of the program found the chances of a participant finding a job because of the scheme improved by just 2 per cent.

the money used for the scheme would be better spent in vocational education or job creation, which would more likely lead to meaningful employment.

Not here.

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According to Alabama Media Group, 13 counties in Alabama replaced work requirements for food stamp participation and saw an astounding 85 percent drop in people using the program.

13 Alabama counties saw 85 percent drop in food stamp participation after work requirements restarted | AL.com

Australia has different demographics. We have literally 3rd and 4th generations of welfare recipients.

GAMEFINEST · 04-12-2018, 10:00 AM

great idea but not sure if serious

pornguy · 04-12-2018, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

They tried that here, costs went up

you want these people looking for jobs and should be giving extra assistance to find one or retrain.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...25-gvs8dl.html

A government-commissioned review of the program found the chances of a participant finding a job because of the scheme improved by just 2 per cent.

the money used for the scheme would be better spent in vocational education or job creation, which would more likely lead to meaningful employment.

2%. Seems like a low number. Until you do the math.

TampaToker · 04-12-2018, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Nobody has a problem with working for the benefit; the problem is that it is a farce because
there is no job to go to.

For release 10:00 a.m. (EDT) Friday, March 16, 2018

Job Openings

On the last business day of January, the job openings level increased to a series high of 6.3 million (+645,000). The job openings level increased for total private (+608,000) and edged up for government. The job openings rate increased to 4.1 percent in January. The number of job openings increased in professional and business services (+215,000), transportation, warehousing, and utilities (+113,000),

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/jolts.nr0.htm

blackmonsters · 04-12-2018, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

For release 10:00 a.m. (EDT) Friday, March 16, 2018

Job Openings

On the last business day of January, the job openings level increased to a series high of 6.3 million (+645,000). The job openings level increased for total private (+608,000) and edged up for government. The job openings rate increased to 4.1 percent in January. The number of job openings increased in professional and business services (+215,000), transportation, warehousing, and utilities (+113,000),

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/jolts.nr0.htm

Great shit, now find 2 people with the required skills.

We need 30,000 more doctors; are you gonna go down to the food stamp office and let one of the foodstampers do open heart surgery on you?

BaldBastard · 04-12-2018, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Not here.
13 Alabama counties saw 85 percent drop in food stamp participation after work requirements restarted | AL.com

Australia has different demographics. We have literally 3rd and 4th generations of welfare recipients.

It's no different in Aus, many career welfare people, anyone I've ever meet on welfare, seems to always be on welfare, Government here was dropping them 5k for everykid they popped out at one stage heheh

Having a vagina here can be quiet profitable

the top 10 per cent of those on parenting benefits, about 43,200 people, received at least $45,032 in 2014-15

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...a4e13e7ff2fe26

Part of being the West I guess you look after the underprivileged .. sighs

OneHungLo · 04-12-2018, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

It's no different in Aus, many career welfare people, anyone I've ever meet on welfare, seems to always be on welfare, Government here was dropping them 5k for everykid they popped out at one stage heheh

Having a vagina here can be quiet profitable

the top 10 per cent of those on parenting benefits, about 43,200 people, received at least $45,032 in 2014-15

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...a4e13e7ff2fe26

Part of being the West I guess you look after the underprivileged .. sighs

Yeah, people in my state are some of the highest paid recipients, getting around $52k a year in handouts. No way in hell is throwing MORE money at them going to help.

They tore down an old housing project here and spent $50 million building a new one. The crazy thing is, they only built 100 "townhouse" style condominiums. Damn things were worth $500k a piece! Granite counter tops, stainless steel appliances, equipped with their own washers and dryers! What is that teaching these lazy leeches? If I was in charge I would set up government TENTS with gas heaters and cots. Powdered milk and government cheese. You have to make it shitty enough that they want to work to better themselves.

Bladewire · 04-12-2018, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Despite evidence that work requirements work — cutting time spent on welfare in half, doubling incomes and moving adults into over 600 diverse industries — the Obama administration approved waivers for those requirements in most states, citing high unemployment and severe job shortages.

The article says the states still can approve the waivers, it's up to the state, unless I read it wrong.

Anyway, I think it great they require welfare recipients, etc. without children volunteer, unfortunately, single people rarely ho on welfare because it's not enough to support them in any way.

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BaldBastard Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 15,407	They tried that here, costs went up you want these people looking for jobs and should be giving extra assistance to find one or retrain. https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...25-gvs8dl.html A government-commissioned review of the program found the chances of a participant finding a job because of the scheme improved by just 2 per cent. the money used for the scheme would be better spent in vocational education or job creation, which would more likely lead to meaningful employment.