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Old 09-06-2018, 04:45 PM   #51
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Generally speaking.... American society does not discuss impeachment. It never came up with Bush, and never came up with Obama. Yet here we are debating it daily, and now we are even discussing the 25th amendment.
Rochard, you're a total fucking idiot. it's been discussed openly with almost every President of your life and was a subject of political discussion and debate .....

Ronald Reagan
George H. W. Bush
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush
Barack Obama
Donald Trump

It's like you pride yourself on being a blind, tunnel visioned moron who can't see or understand anything at all but "hate Trump".

You fucking idiots were talking about impeaching Trump before he even took office. You guys are seriously the most intellectually dishonest people on planet earth. We're supposed to believe that you all reserved judgement until some event?

Of course not.
You hated him before he ran.
You hated him when he ran.
You hated him when he won.
You hate him now.

And you know what? Thats fine.

But stop the super desperate bullshit act of trying to attach your hate to some event or something he did. You just hate him. Thats fine. Be fucking honest about it and stop being so immature.

It's unreal how dishonest you people are. I can't stand Hillary ... i would never in a million years pretend that my stance was "well, lets give her an honest chance" because I can be honest with myself and others with respect to my bias against her.... and then later go "oh yeah, she should be impeached because...". I wouldn't like her as President,... but at that point, she'd be President and nothing positive comes from trying to undermine the President of the United States like you fucking childish idiots do every single day.

But not you fucking clowns. You act like children and pretend to be on the high moral ground the whole time. You want to see the whole country burn if it means removing Trump. It's pathetic.
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Old 09-06-2018, 04:47 PM   #52
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Generally speaking.... American society does not discuss impeachment. It never came up with Bush, and never came up with Obama. Yet here we are debating it daily, and now we are even discussing the 25th amendment.

I don't know if Trump will be removed from office or not, but it seems to me a lot of people around him are either being found guilty of a felony or pleading guilty to a felony. This is investigation is just starting. Over sixty people were found guilty or plead guilty during Watergate, which went on for six years. Every time we turn around someone else is guilty. Trump can resign in the morning, but the investigation will still go on. Nothing will stop it.

Here is how I see this playing out....

Midterms are going to see the Democrats take over.
Trump will either serve out his term or be impeached
Once Trump is out of office, he will be indicted

One way or another they are going to nail Trump to the wall.
I fairly well agree, but understand 2 things.
Trump can protect himself best by staying in office, so resignation is probably out unless something is about to break that is just totally devastating and they give him the out to save the country embarrassment.

The republicans have been busy pushing through all legislative wants since they know he is unlikely to for-fill a full term. They prefer the 25th amendment to keep this in check while they get what they want in legislation. A nasty disruption would delay it till after 2020 if they keep majority. To many if's. They simply want their agenda and are unlikely to do anything. You are seeing evidence of that in Woodward's book.

So, I know the blame game will have a new round with the republican's blaming trump, but they had a opportunity and made their choices and are as much at fault.

The republicans will figure out their options after the mid-terms and pick a path but for now, it's stay the course and get their agenda through.
It will take the next administration 3 terms to undo many of the things they have done in 2 years. Many of their reversals were fights that took 6,8,12 years or more to get some regulation in there in the first place. Sessions and others are making sure it will be tough to undo. Even though I find it all distasteful, it has been a very smart set of plays on their part.
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