I'm tired of mainstream. How is adult these days?

[vanillaice]

Hey guys, I'm an old school webmaster who used to pump out galleries and submit to all the big guys. Blog networks. Even was around when adsense allowed porn.

I said that because I know how the business is. Few will share actual tips that work and I'm cool with that. Nobody wants others eating from their plate.

My basic question is if adult is still worth doing if you bust ass? I'm never going to be a big player. That's just life. I am nor have ever been good at this. Only enough to make it by and that's what I'm looking for now.

Anyone want to mentor me in the changes over the last 5 or so years and how to get back in? I'll happily hook you up and use your codes but you gotta be serious. I don't need hand holding, but more of a something like:

Step 1 make galleries, submit to tgp
Step 2 make a blog network with good seo
Step 3 buy traffic from xxxx
Step 4 anything new

Just stuff like that. I know how it all used to work, I'm just wondering what still works and what is new.

Thanks!

[Mr Pheer]

If you have stuff that still works and you've kept it online all this time, keep it going. That's what I did. I would not start new adult business these days.

I spend the rest of my time working on things that I like, and it's not adult.

[vanillaice]

I have nothing now from the past. I'd be starting fresh

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by vanillaice

I have nothing now from the past. I'd be starting fresh

Check WP script - a solution to get your porn tube from the ground up . . .

[mce]

You can try reviews. But you have to have an 'overlay' for it that isn't obviously adult.

For example, you can start a blog on how guys can impress, pick up, and get with chicks.
That's the overlay. The real pay off = your mailing list where you link to penis product reviews, dating site reviews, etc etc All these payload pages are on your blog

[vanillaice]

Thanks for the replies so far guys. I have some mainstream sites but they don't profit as much as one of them does so I get discouraged. Regarding the big profit, it's seasonal so I can't do much 9 months a year

[blackmonsters]

Promote live cams.

See Sig.

[vanillaice]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Promote live cams.

See Sig.

I've tried that back in the day. I assume you need mega traffic for anything?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by vanillaice

Thanks for the replies so far guys. I have some mainstream sites but they don't profit as much as one of them does so I get discouraged. Regarding the big profit, it's seasonal so I can't do much 9 months a year

What is the seasonal topic and how can you parlay that into a related niche to profit from?

Example: golf. Seasonal sport, but many golfers will have money to go on ski trips or golf vacations in the early spring etc. etc.

Your current topic may be seasonal but there is likely a spinoff that you can take advantage of. Your other option is to scale your seasonal revenue so high that the other 9 months don't matter.

[Sly]

Another example.

Snow removal service, winter months.

Those paying for snow removal would also likely pay for other landscaping duties in the spring, summer and fall.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by vanillaice

Hey guys, I'm an old school webmaster who used to pump out galleries and submit to all the big guys. Blog networks. Even was around when adsense allowed porn.

I said that because I know how the business is. Few will share actual tips that work and I'm cool with that. Nobody wants others eating from their plate.

My basic question is if adult is still worth doing if you bust ass? I'm never going to be a big player. That's just life. I am nor have ever been good at this. Only enough to make it by and that's what I'm looking for now.

Anyone want to mentor me in the changes over the last 5 or so years and how to get back in? I'll happily hook you up and use your codes but you gotta be serious. I don't need hand holding, but more of a something like:

Step 1 make galleries, submit to tgp
Step 2 make a blog network with good seo
Step 3 buy traffic from xxxx
Step 4 anything new

Just stuff like that. I know how it all used to work, I'm just wondering what still works and what is new.

Thanks!

Honest advice: It's not worth it. It takes about 100 times the effort to make anything near what was made in those old school days. Stick to mainstream. Going from mainstream to adult is like going from laywer to toilet cleaner money wise.

[mce]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Honest advice: It's not worth it. It takes about 100 times the effort to make anything near what was made in those old school days. Stick to mainstream. Going from mainstream to adult is like going from laywer to toilet cleaner money wise.

Good analogy. Lawyers in CA make an average of $157,000 per year

[just a punk]

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[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Honest advice: It's not worth it. It takes about 100 times the effort to make anything near what was made in those old school days. Stick to mainstream. Going from mainstream to adult is like going from laywer to toilet cleaner money wise.

Good advice. Today you need 50-100 times the traffic to get a sign up that you got in the past. Everything has been done to death and free tubes rule the day. Buying traffic will bankrupt you.

Try mainstream vlogging in a sector you know and understand.

[3xmedia]

depends on why you stopped. generally it's much harder to make $$$$ then it was 10+ years ago. creating galleries and submiting to TGPs? sorry, it's not 1996 anymore, this won't get you anywhere.

[patadeperro]

Contrary to what many people here tell you adult is NOT death but yes is true now you need to push bigger traffic numbers to get a conversion OR if you have really been making money on mainstream you have learned a thing or two about marketing and then you will be able to find profitable niches in adult.

Most people who start in adult NEVER learn anything about marketing because there is no need, adult is just a matter of pushing volume and you will eventually will make conversions, on the other hand mainstream is about marketing, if you learned you will make a killing in the adult world.

[vanillaice]

Originally Posted by Sly

What is the seasonal topic and how can you parlay that into a related niche to profit from?

Example: golf. Seasonal sport, but many golfers will have money to go on ski trips or golf vacations in the early spring etc. etc.

Your current topic may be seasonal but there is likely a spinoff that you can take advantage of. Your other option is to scale your seasonal revenue so high that the other 9 months don't matter.

Good reply. It is about a TV show that only airs 3 months a year. I'll say Game of Thrones (it's not, but that's an example of a mega show that dies after season finale).

My particular show, I get inside spoilers, have met cast members, etc. I'd write about similar shows but I won't have nearly the same inside info so I don't have the same stuff to write about. Let's say I have GoT spoilers (I don't) and my site is huge, I could try to write about say The Walking Dead but at best I'd be able to only recap episodes which isn't nearly the same traffic draw.

Thoughts? I do like your train of thought

[Kittens]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Honest advice: It's not worth it. It takes about 100 times the effort to make anything near what was made in those old school days. Stick to mainstream. Going from mainstream to adult is like going from laywer to toilet cleaner money wise.

This.

[celandina]

Make and sell your own content, the rest is so much smoke and mirrors

[vanillaice]

Originally Posted by celandina

Make and sell your own content, the rest is so much smoke and mirrors

Always been a dream of mine to have a ln amateur model network. I know that is played way the fuck out though

[mce]

Originally Posted by vanillaice

Always been a dream of mine to have a ln amateur model network. I know that is played way the fuck out though

Not really. If you get exclusive rights to a model, you're selling a FANTASY from one unique source. It's all about BRANDING.

[vanillaice]

Originally Posted by mce

Not really. If you get exclusive rights to a model, you're selling a FANTASY from one unique source. It's all about BRANDING.

How do I convince my wife this is the best career path? Lol.

[GAMEFINEST]

mainstream man!

[PornDiscounts-V]

I had my biggest day ever on Friday.

[bronco67]

Doesn't it still hold true (in adult) that if you make and sell your own content -- and it's really good and directly serves a specific niche/need, you will do well? Sure, if you're just finding ways to skim a dollar from volumes of traffic with no actual ability to create content it would be tougher.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Doesn't it still hold true (in adult) that if you make and sell your own content -- and it's really good and directly serves a specific niche/need, you will do well? Sure, if you're just finding ways to skim a dollar from volumes of traffic with no actual ability to create content it would be tougher.

I am preaching this mantra here for 10 years, yet the "skimmers" have the day for now

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by vanillaice

How do I convince my wife this is the best career path? Lol.

ask Vikki Vette. she's making bank and has a network of models earning too.

also Home - Lelu Love - Personal Porn on our own network is a self-made millionaire.

you can't get anywhere with generic hardcore. solo and fetish always sell if you can bring the eyeballs. i see it every day.

#porncms

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Doesn't it still hold true (in adult) that if you make and sell your own content -- and it's really good and directly serves a specific niche/need, you will do well? Sure, if you're just finding ways to skim a dollar from volumes of traffic with no actual ability to create content it would be tougher.

It depends on how good the content is, what it costs to make and then how much you can sell it for.

[mce]

OP, You can always jump on the TINDER or GRINDR bot bandwagon

Direct the traffic from thirsty mofos to dating sites