wankawonk

Hello, everyone!

I'm a webmaster with over 4 years experience running my own successful tube sites. In this time, I've learned a lot of tricks to increase my website revenue. I would like to share some of them with you today!

Skimmed Traffic

If you're not selling skimmed traffic, you're missing out on a lot of potential revenue.

What is skimmed traffic, you ask? Skimmed traffic is when you click on a link, and instead of being taken to your intended destination, you are redirected to an advertisement. Skimmed traffic networks provide you with a direct link, and you get paid for every hit you send to that link.

This would seem to be annoying for users, but I've found it to be a much better way to monetize my tube sites than popunders--in fact, I don't even use popunders anymore! The CPMs are similar, you can get more impressions (since many browsers are blocking popunders, but no browsers will ever block clicked redirects), it's less likely to get your site penalized by google (keep reading to find out why) and the actual ads being shown are much less annoying--it turns out it's mostly CJ tubes buying skimmed traffic, so you don't have to worry as much about malware, aggressive landers with autoplay sound, etc.

So how do you implement skimmed traffic?

My recommendation is, cookie your users with the amount of videos they've viewed in the current session. Then you can set up your server to redirect users to the ad url based on the amount of videos they've viewed. For example, on my sites, I redirect my users to the ad url on their 5th video view, and then on 5% of views after the 6th. I recommend you only redirect on video views, not on other page views, because the user specifically intends to watch a specific video, so when they get redirected, they're likely to just click back and click on the video again, keeping them on your site most of the time.

Using cookies to determine when to redirect will help you avoid a google penalty, because google doesn't use cookies when they crawl your site. So google is not likely to ever notice that you have some redirects on your site. (You should probably use this strategy for popunders, too--don't add the code to the page until the user has made a few views. This will make your pops less visible to google.)

I recommend that you sell your skimmed traffic to CLICKAINE, where I've seen the highest CPMs for my traffic.

So, you should definitely start selling skimmed traffic ASAP! If you need any help setting it up, feel free to PM me.

Native Ads

Native ads are all the rage in advertising in 2018/2019, and for good reason: People click on them at a much higher rate than banner ads, meaning more revenue for you, the publisher. Personally I've seen fantastic revenue with native ads--much better than banners, and in some cases almost as good as popunders.

Native ads are typically styled with CSS to fit with the rest of the content on your page. They consist of an image, a headline, and a description--all of which can be styled to match your website's CSS.

EXOCLICK is the best network for native ads. I've seen fantastic CPM using exoclick native ads.

Here's a few tips to optimize your revenue with native ads:

--Get the CSS as close to your website as possible.

--Place the native ads in your page flow so that users will see them as they scroll. For example, if you have a list of thumbnails, 4 thumbnails wide, then try putting a 4-thumbnail wide native ad every 3 rows of videos. This will get you much better CTR (and therefore better revenue) than placing them at the bottom of your page, or next to a video. That said, you'll make better money placing native ads at the bottom of your page, than you will stuffing the bottom of your page with banners like you see many sites doing.

Native ads can be a little tricky to style properly. It took me a while to figure it out. If you need any help with how to style them and where to place them, feel free to PM me!

Video Sliders

This is a relatively new ad format that is gradually taking the place of instant message ads that pop up in the bottom right corner of the page (you know, the ones where a fake instant message box pops up in the corner with a fake girl saying "hey sexy" or something). It pays much, much better than instant message ads--over 4x better, on my sites.

These new video sliders slide in from the bottom right corner and play a short VAST video ad (with no sound) that you can skip through after a few seconds. They have insanely high CTR (and therefore CPM), I've never seen anything like it!

These are super easy to implement. Just head on over to CLICKAINE, create an account, get your site approved, create the ad zone (find the "add zone" button next to your domain on the statistics page of the publisher section), and you'll get a Javascript code that you can easily add into your pages.

If you're not using video sliders, you need to be!

Chaturbate Native Ads

I saved the best tip for last: Chaturbate native ads are the single best revenue source on my tubes, outperforming every other ad format by factors of 5x to 10x, and accounting for almost 30% of my total revenue. If you don't have chaturbate native ads on your tube, you are fucking up big-time.

These ads work by showing thumbnails of currently-online models. When you click one, it takes you directly to the model's chat room, which means you get a really nice conversion rate--users are being taken exactly where they meant to go, so they're more likely to convert.

Here's my 2018 revenue so far from chaturbate native ads, just to give you an idea:



Unfortunately, these take a little more work to get right. You have two options.

First, you can go to your chaturbate promo tools page, and select the "Cam Listing" tool. This will give you a simple-to-use iframe that you can embed on your pages...but there's a problem. It's not styled to look like your content! So the CTR Will be much lower than you could potentially reach.

Now, if you're decent with CSS, you can do some work to make it look more similar to your content, which will greatly increase your CTR and earnings. But there's an even better option:

Use the chaturbate JSON API and your programming skills (or hire someone) to create a truly native widget. Check out what I have on one of my sites:



what's awesome about this is that, by creating the native widget using the JSON API, I was able to list the model name and the chatroom description all within the "title", which looks exactly like all the other titles of all the tube videos on my site. If you use the "Cam Listing" iframe from chaturbate, you don't really have this option--the header underneath the model's thumbnail is just going to say her name, and then beneath that you'll have the room description, which is going to make it look a lot less convincing to your users. You really want this widget to look as much like your normal content as possible!

Now, as far as placements, similar rules to Exoclick native ads apply: You want it to appear within your content, in places that users will be looking at as they scroll. So, next-to-video doesn't work that great.

Personally, I make almost all of my cam revenue from putting this widget on my home page. As users scroll down my home page, they see the widget (which I posted an image of above). These widgets haven't been very effective on my video pages or search pages. Not really sure why, to be honest.

Finally, keep in mind that cam revenue takes a long time to build up to its maximum potential. I've been using these for over a year and my monthly revenue is still increasing! So don't be discouraged if you have no spenders 2 weeks in. You just gotta give it time.

If you need any help integrating chaturbate native ads on your site, feel free to PM me. I can help you with the placements, the CSS, and I can even code you up a true native widget using the JSON API.

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So, that concludes the tips that I have for you today. I hope that this information helps you to increase your revenues!

And remember, if there's anything I can do to help you, feel free to PM me. I do charge a fee for my time, but over time you'll make much more money from your website if you implement these strategies properly.

Good luck, and have fun!

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pornuploader

Skimmed ads are prohibited. If you keep them on your pages, you're gonna be a loser. Google will take you domain rank down and you'll lose all your traffic.

noctropolis

Is it possible to implement skimmed ads on Wordpress & WP-Script tube site without merging some third-party script with site code? I would like to try but don't want to destroy my site.

wankawonk

There's a TON of sites that rank and sell skimmed traffic, including mine. I've even noticed that I've bought skimmed hits from pornhub! What they all do is make sure that they never skim on the first click. On my sites, I don't skim until the 5th.

The trick with all ads that google doesn't like, is to hide them behind cookies. Google almost never sets cookies when they crawl your site. They might check once or twice--for example, if they crawl your page and you set a cookie called "views_this_session" to 1, there's a chance they'll crawl the page again with the "views_this_session" cookie set to 1, which you would then set to 2, and then there's a chance they'll crawl the page again with "views_this_session" set to 2, but after a few hits they'll stop checking because they see the content hasn't changed based on the cookie.

So if you wait a few clicks before you skim, there's almost no chance google will see it. Obviously, the more clicks you wait, the less chance google will see it. That's why I wait 5 clicks. This strategy works with popunders too.

You definitely don't need to merge a third-party script. I really don't know anything about PHP or wordpress (I'm a python guy) but I think you could just find your video page script and add something like this:

<?php
if (/*Condition to redirect*/){
header("Location: http://your_skimmed_traffic_url.com");
exit();
}
?>

Then just figure out your condition to redirect, which will involve setting some cookies or using a random generator

You can PM me if you want me to take a look at your code, but like I said, I don't know hardly anything about PHP.

Emailing you now.

moniq1000

CLICKAINE is a joke after I put 1 week the ads in one my tube site, was rejected

wankawonk

I make good money with clickaine, try contacting support?

cybermike

Anyone have an idiots guide to make some good native ad css code to match wp-scripts retrotube style?

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Cucik

This thread deserves more views.

I am interested in video sliders. First question - can @wankawonk or anyone else confirm that they are Google SEO friendly, according to Better ads standards?

Also, are in-video ads safe to use?

Markul

Skimmed traffic? What is this, 2008? Get the fuck outta here.

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trevesty

What do you mean by "in video"? A pre-roll or post-roll using VAST? If so, then yes. A banner overlay before content can be played? No.

Video sliders are ok.

Cucik

Yes, I meant pre-roll and post-roll ads. Do these ads work with WP-script?

I created Video slider on Clickaine, but what percentage of width and height should I select?

Klen

Skim traffic now gaining on importance as google is not against it like it is with popunders.

trevesty

Hmm. I'm not really sure about WP-script. Perhaps if you're using their player and pulling the MP4 in somehow rather than embedding it.

I'd make it as small as possible without neglecting revenue. Most that display on my biggest tube are 300x250 but mine are a direct buy.

trevesty

Yeah, his comment was pretty outdated.

A lot of big sites (like the OP's) send massive amounts of skimmed traffic.... from their 200k+ daily mostly search traffic sites.

Markul

Sure. That will end fast, but go for it 👍

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Nicky

It's a good way to earn some quick money if you have a big site for sure, not sure how google will react down the line though.

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trevesty

OP and plenty of other massive networks have been doing it just fine for a few years now.

mikeet

Nice read, signed up under your ref but seems their down for maintenance right now.

AmeliaG

This thread deserves a bump.

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I used Clickaine before and they just banned my publisher and avertiser account for problems with advertiser section and of course they took all the money (250$).


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Hi there.
What are skimmed ads?

Dickjagger1

OK, so this is an old post that seems to have gotten bumped back up, but I'm interested in this. I have questions.

The first one is what is the OP's relationship to Clickaine and Exoclick? I've been around the block a time or two, and this smells like more than just a personal recommendation. Are you affiliated with them, or getting kickbacks or commissions from them?

The second question centers around the Google penalty. Seems like there's a big disagreement about whether Google pays attention to this. My gut inclination is to say that the OP's plan of 5 clicks sounds reasonable. I know Google protects their algorithms, but does anybody have HARD evidence on how that works? My site uses a video content widget, and if I added the skim code to that widget, it would only trigger after 5 video views, not 5 page loads. All good. But when Google crawls my site, it seems like it would load that video widget once for every video on my site which is close to 10k now. Wouldn't that trigger the google penalty?

It seems like people have had some bad experiences with Clickaine. I'm in it for the long haul, and not interested in getting in bed with a partner who is going to dump me. Has anybody besides the OP had a good experience with them?

wankawonk

Skims are redirects. the ad network gives you a URL. User clicks a link on your site. Instead of taking them where the link is supposed to go, you send them to the ad network URL.

The user you replied to says google will penalize you for them. But I can assure you, if you wait until late in the session to use them, google will not notice or care.

Those are affiliate links. Yes I get a kickback. But you losers on gfy don't make enough money for it to matter anyway

Google crawls by default with cookies disabled. Its likely they run covert tests where they check the behavior of your site with cookies enabled. But if you're waiting until late in a session to use prohibited ad codes, its not likely that they'll see very much naughty behavior. I've been doing "prohibited" shit hidden behind cookies for half a decade, my sites currently have the most google traffic they've ever had.

If you want to sell skims, your options are clickaine, trafficshop, and clickadu. I've had bad experiences with the latter two. Clickaine has been great. You do whatever you want...but its not likely many other webmasters will share their experiences here.

Dickjagger1

That's completely fine, I just like for those kinds of things to be out in the open so we all know where each other is coming from.

So right, I'm still trying to figure out how Google's algorithms work, and of course I know nobody actually knows, so it's a bit of detective work. As I said, your premise sounds reasonable but I'm just concerned about how it would play on my site when they crawl all of the video pages. If they got a skim click on 5% of 10k video pages, that's a lot. How do you prevent that from happening? Also, would you be willing to share examples of the code snippets you use for your condition to redirect?

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad for the ideas. I just want to make sure that I understand everything and that what works for you will also work for me.

celandina

Isn't there anybody who actually creates something? Is this business all about stealing and recycling shit? Slowly but surely Google will get you all

Dickjagger1

Do you know any other songs?

I hear you doing a lot of complaining, but I don't see you offering anything helpful to get people steered in what you see as the right direction.

ravo

Let's not forget about fpctraffic.com - we've been buying skimmed traffic before those three were around.

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I now many songs. These are just two

1) to start a business you need to invest time and money.
2) Business based on theft is not business.

But never mind I will ease off

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skimmed traffic doesnt work

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I've been seeing tube sites selling web push notifications lately. Not sure if any network that handles that for them.

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Great post!

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great info ,thanks for sharing , will help to most who need it.

drexl

It is likely Google notice AND care. Google care about user experience.

Great thread nonetheless. Thank you for sharing.

100% correct

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