Diomed

The shills aren't trying to win arguments or convert people..

They are just trying to manufacture a hugely exaggerated opposition, and thus consent.

From phony polls, to phony news, to phony numbers, (remember trans people are just .4 percent of the population).

It's all a fucking lie. Hillary rallies were empty.. and yet we are still hearing about it two years later..

How can actual democrats not past the sniff test on themselves at all? Do they not sense the sinister corporate 1984 undertone? Outside of shills, which are many and for good reason (if you don't have much support - just fake it).. How dumb must a person, who eats all this shit up, actually be?

Everyone should know by now, that these forces that control the media, have anything but your best interest at heart.. How can they not make this single concession?

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Bladewire

Damn you're boring

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pimpmaster9000

Trump is going to get crushed if he makes it to elections...shitlib power!

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Diomed

Don't forget I'm supposed to be on ignore, you forgot to logout.

Might as well delete your post

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Diomed

Your contribution is noted.

Even though the people who want to bomb you and others are of the same machine in the OP.

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Diomed

Serious question,

All this talk of election "influence" by powers outside of the American citizenry..

But do people not understand how insanely something like this could influence an election? Just a friendly mistake, nothing to see here:



Even for die hard liberals, they have to know something is wrong with this.. Yes it's "your team" today so no biggie, but tomorrow is a different story..

What happens if liberals ever want to elect a revolutionary?

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kane

That graphic should scare you instead of make you cocky. It proves anyone can win.

Diomed

I honestly don't think I was being cocky,

The graphic scares the shit out of me now.. Not because trump won, but because there was a power outside of the American people who decided to manipulate it so heavily in an attempt to demoralize one side over the other into not voting.

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kane

Haven't you been bashing the Mueller investigation for the last 2 years? Wasn't he looking into the very thing you are worried about?

Diomed

I already covered that in this thread.. it was mentioned in direct comparison to the graph and these so called "projections".. When the reality was a lot more like this:



If the key is undue influence outside of the American citizenry, why are we stopping at Russia?

Those completely falsified polls didn't all.. In total continuity.. Just happen to get it wrong

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kane

The graphic shows the reality of the election. Hillary was a huge favorite. Even Trump thought he was going to lose. He has said as such. But, according to that graphic, he had a 7% chance of winning and that 7% happened. He defied the odds, that is all any of this means.

Nobody said Hillary had 100% chance of winning (nobody credible at least). Sometimes the underdog wins.

Diomed

This is where you folks start to get scary..

It's all in the self deception.

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kane

I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.


I knew better than to respond to you. . .

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BaldBastard

Your all aware even FoxNews was predicting Hillary win based on their polling?

And since polling methods have not changed, yet ya'll still hang to them, left and right.

So what was so different that Foxnews and all other mainstream media got it so wrong?

And the answer is clear, you were attacked by a foreign country using weaponized social media and fake right-wing websites, and their still at it.

You were invaded and still are occupied.

Acepimp

I believe that's FALSE.

Senate report: No evidence that Russians changed vote tallies in 2016.

You think $160K in Facebook ads (for both sides, lefty causes, & anti-Trump rally organizing) is the reason Trump won?? Come on dude, that's ridiculous. LOL

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Diomed

Even though Hillary out spent Trump everywhere, and I mean everywhere.. and by huge margins.. Millions and millions.. (every where you went on the Internet there was "I'm with her" ads).. They will always convince themselves the bogey man swung it..

They will never accept the fact that they simply lost. Despite all the money in the world, 90% of the media, celebs, and every major institution..

It's going to be a fun 2020.. Looks like they didn't learn anything btw.. Still have zero message to the voting public. Except, muh, racism and wanting to roll out politically correct slavery so they can turn good countries into shitholes.

So weird because they talk about caring for people.. Yet every country this shit gets rolled out in is worse for wear, people are increasingly unhappy and less free, and more poor.

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BaldBastard

All the committee found from your link was..

"vote tallies weren't manipulated or that voter registration information was deleted or modified"

Which is nothing to do with what I said, and I'm still baffled why Ruskis purchased any facebook ads, and I base that on being an online webmaster and social media marketer myself since 98. I buy enough so someone else might think that's what I'm doing and for tax write off reasons and a bit of branding but its certainly not how I get the bulk of my traffic social media wise. Pin point a few influencers in the area you want to promote.. and influence them and they do the work for you.

Also few if any of the sites doing most targeted propaganda used google ads, had they probed companies like Revcontent/ Taboola or Outbrain the results would of been very different. Anyone online with a 1/4 of a clue should of seen that.

Why do you think Rod Rosenstein warned that hacking and social media manipulation are "only the tip of the iceberg" when it comes to Russian efforts to influence American elections.

America was invaded and still is occupied

pimpmaster9000

americans do not give a shit about the USA bombing others...the nationalist brainwash is too strong for americans to consider non americans as human or to even see something wrong with the terror they inflict on others...you will watch us get murdered as entertainment on CNN and you will root for your invaders...

"illegal alien" best sums up what americans think about others even though it has nothing to do with the topic...not american = not human....it is just how you are and I do not believe in change for the better coming from inside the USA...

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gra...n-interference

Sen. Lindsey Graham said on Sunday that the Russians are “up to it again” when it comes to meddling with elections in the United States and called on President Trump to crack down on Moscow’s efforts at interference.

“Everything we've done with the Russians is not working. We need more sanctions not less. More sanctions now.”

So don't say the word// Obama: Trumps in charge now, situation is worse and there doing FUCK all, except denying they had any Ruski contact, though we now know there was closer to 150 contacts and rolling back sanctions and perusing a foreign policy that solely benefits.. Russia.

Graham: "The takeaway for me is they were very involved in the 2016 election, they’re coming at us again. I’d like to stop them. And one way to stop them is to make them pay a price," he said.
In his report to Attorney General William Barr, Special Counsel Robert Mueller concluded that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election "in sweeping and systematic fashion" and that its efforts were designed to help Trump.


IE... USA was invaded and is still occupied.