A reminder of why Baby boomers and the Rolling stones are the worst people ever... - GoFuckYourself.com

crockett · 05-23-2019, 10:35 PM

Today marks the 1st day that the song writer Richard Ashcroft makes a dime from his Grammy nominated 1997 hit Bitter Sweet Sympathy by his band The Verve.

Why are Baby Boomers so greedy and selfish? Why is Mick Jagger & Keith Richards such a cunts?

The story for those who don't know... Also for those that claim it was the Stone's manager not Mick Jagger/Keith Richards that is not True. The Stones were behind the lawsuit to fuck over Richard Ashcroft. After they sued the fuck out of him once the song got popular the Stone's manager then fucked over Mick Jagger/Keith Richards and kept the royalties for him self. (poetic justice maybe?). Then went on to licence the Verve's song commercially and collected 100% of the money. (several millions).

The extremity of this was absolutely absurd because this was never a case of the Verve "stealing" the Stones work and using a sample with out permission. The Verve legally negotiated for the rights to use the sample in their song but after the song became a hit the Stones turned around and sued him saying he used "too long" of a sample..

The now defunct British outfit The Verve sampled an orchestration on their song "Bittersweet Symphony" from The Rolling Stone's "The Last Time". Before the release of the album, The Verve negotiated a licensing agreement with The Rolling Stones to use the sample -- at least the composition rights to the sample. In 1997, The Verve's album "Urban Hymns" peaked at number 23 on the Billboard Charts. What ensued was a bitter (and not sweet) legal battle resulting in The Verve turning over 100% of the royalties to the Rolling Stones. The Rolling Stones argued that The Verve had violated the previous licensing agreement by using too much of the sample in their song. The Verve argued that The Rolling Stones got greedy when the song became successful. Herein lies the issue of moral rights of a samplist.

"The last thing I ever wanted was for my music to be used in a commercial. I'm still sick about it", The Verve's lead singer Richard Ashcroft said in a recent interview. So, that's exactly what Rolling Stones manager Allen Klein did. Capitalizing off the success of the song, Klein licensed The Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony" to Nike, who proceeded to run a multi-million dollar television campaign using The Verve's song over shots of its sneakers. Klein also used the song to hawk Vauxhall automobiles. Additionally, though the song was authored by The Rolling Stones, the Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra performed the sampled recording and also filed suit upon the success of the song. (Herein lies a fine caveat to license both the recording and composition rights from whomever maintains them.) To add even more insult to injury, when "Bittersweet Symphony" was nominated for a Grammy, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were named the nominees and not The Verve. What could be more "Bittersweet" than your song reaching the top of the charts and not being able to enjoy a cent of its success?

"It could've been worse," Ashcroft continued. "If we hadn't fought, 'Symphony' could've ended up on a cheeseburger ad and never have been taken seriously again." Yum.

Edit.. For the record the Album Urban Hymns was a great album.

optics · 05-23-2019, 10:46 PM

Without reading the whole post (I don't do walls of text)...Boomers are greedy and selfish because they were the weak people created by good times.

Thank me later.

escorpio · 05-24-2019, 04:34 AM

Mick and Keith are not baby boomers. They were born during the war, not after.

RedFred · 05-24-2019, 06:05 AM

Unlike the Stones, if the Beatles were still around they would have had more than a few hits in the past 45 years. Stones have not had one. They are the most overrated band ever.

John Lennon: Micks a joke and was jealous of the Beatles

crockett · 05-24-2019, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Mick and Keith are not baby boomers. They were born during the war, not after.

He was born in 43 that's close enough for hand gernades.. He was certainly more of a boomer than the previous generation..

Bladewire · 05-24-2019, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

He was born in 43 that's close enough for hand gernades.. He was certainly more of a boomer than the previous generation..

He tries to derail any thread not made by a trump troll.

Your title clearly states the rolling Stones AND baby boomers as being two separate entities not the rolling Stones being baby boomers

Blocked alt-right hate troll reply in 3.. 2.. 1...

escorpio · 05-24-2019, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

He tries to derail any thread not made by a trump troll.

Your title clearly states the rolling Stones AND baby boomers as being two separate entities not the rolling Stones being baby boomers

So what do baby boomers have to do with it?

escorpio · 05-24-2019, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

He was born in 43 that's close enough for hand gernades.. He was certainly more of a boomer than the previous generation..

I'm splitting hairs. Got you on a technicality.

crockett · 05-24-2019, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

So what do baby boomers have to do with it?

They are the worst people ever aside from the Stones.. Boomers were the Stones fan base...

crockett · 05-24-2019, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

I'm splitting hairs. Got you on a technicality.

You didn't get shit.. you don't have the brain capacity to "get" anything..

escorpio · 05-24-2019, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

They are the worst people ever aside from the Stones.. Boomers were the Stones fan base...

Once again, the hateful intolerant crockett stereotypes and disparages an entire group of people.

escorpio · 05-24-2019, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

You didn't get shit.. you don't have the brain capacity to "get" anything..

I get that baby boomers weren't born in 1943.

The Porn Nerd · 05-24-2019, 10:39 AM

Rolling Stones: overrated.
Baby Boomers: sociopaths
Richard Ashcroft: who??

crockett · 05-24-2019, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Rolling Stones: overrated.
Baby Boomers: sociopaths
Richard Ashcroft: who??

Song writer and lead signer for the Verve. A rock band who's 1st album hit 22nd spot on the billboard top 100 for the year it was released and 1st single was Grammy nominated. They were fucked out of existance by Stones lawsuits causing the band to break up.

The Porn Nerd · 05-24-2019, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Song writer and lead signer for the Verve. A rock band who's 1st album hit 22nd spot on the billboard top 100 for the year it was released and 1st single was Grammy nominated. They were fucked out of existance by Stones lawsuits causing the band to break up.

I know who he is. I interviewed Rich in 1996.

SINCE then....who??
I get him confused with the former Attorney General or whoever the fuck that creepy Ashcroft dude was. LOL

Bryan G · 05-24-2019, 02:33 PM

Crockett, for such an annoying cunt I’m surprised you actually have good musical taste. The Verve were great and Ashcroft still is. He released an album last year and it’s fantastic.

crockett · 05-24-2019, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G

Crockett, for such an annoying cunt I’m surprised you actually have good musical taste. The Verve were great and Ashcroft still is. He released an album last year and it’s fantastic.

Didn't know he released another album. Figured he was hurt out on the music industry after that.

Is it a new band?

Bryan G · 05-24-2019, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Didn't know he released another album. Figured he was hurt out on the music industry after that.

Is it a new band?

Solo album - the name of the album is Natural Rebel.

He’s never been out of the industry, he’s still pretty massive in the UK. He toured with Liam Gallagher from Oasis last year.

Bladewire · 05-24-2019, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I know who he is. I interviewed Rich in 1996.

Uh huh yeah sure

Link to interview

Grapesoda · 05-24-2019, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Mick and Keith are not baby boomers. They were born during the war, not after.

stop posting truth in corkit threads

and we both know the rolling stones voted for trump

Grapesoda · 05-24-2019, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

Today marks the 1st day that the song writer Richard Ashcroft makes a dime from his Grammy nominated 1997 hit Bitter Sweet Sympathy by his band The Verve.

Why are Baby Boomers so greedy and selfish? Why is Mick Jagger & Keith Richards such a cunts?

The story for those who don't know... Also for those that claim it was the Stone's manager not Mick Jagger/Keith Richards that is not True. The Stones were behind the lawsuit to fuck over Richard Ashcroft. After they sued the fuck out of him once the song got popular the Stone's manager then fucked over Mick Jagger/Keith Richards and kept the royalties for him self. (poetic justice maybe?). Then went on to licence the Verve's song commercially and collected 100% of the money. (several millions).

The extremity of this was absolutely absurd because this was never a case of the Verve "stealing" the Stones work and using a sample with out permission. The Verve legally negotiated for the rights to use the sample in their song but after the song became a hit the Stones turned around and sued him saying he used "too long" of a sample..

The now defunct British outfit The Verve sampled an orchestration on their song "Bittersweet Symphony" from The Rolling Stone's "The Last Time". Before the release of the album, The Verve negotiated a licensing agreement with The Rolling Stones to use the sample -- at least the composition rights to the sample. In 1997, The Verve's album "Urban Hymns" peaked at number 23 on the Billboard Charts. What ensued was a bitter (and not sweet) legal battle resulting in The Verve turning over 100% of the royalties to the Rolling Stones. The Rolling Stones argued that The Verve had violated the previous licensing agreement by using too much of the sample in their song. The Verve argued that The Rolling Stones got greedy when the song became successful. Herein lies the issue of moral rights of a samplist.

"The last thing I ever wanted was for my music to be used in a commercial. I'm still sick about it", The Verve's lead singer Richard Ashcroft said in a recent interview. So, that's exactly what Rolling Stones manager Allen Klein did. Capitalizing off the success of the song, Klein licensed The Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony" to Nike, who proceeded to run a multi-million dollar television campaign using The Verve's song over shots of its sneakers. Klein also used the song to hawk Vauxhall automobiles. Additionally, though the song was authored by The Rolling Stones, the Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra performed the sampled recording and also filed suit upon the success of the song. (Herein lies a fine caveat to license both the recording and composition rights from whomever maintains them.) To add even more insult to injury, when "Bittersweet Symphony" was nominated for a Grammy, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were named the nominees and not The Verve. What could be more "Bittersweet" than your song reaching the top of the charts and not being able to enjoy a cent of its success?

"It could've been worse," Ashcroft continued. "If we hadn't fought, 'Symphony' could've ended up on a cheeseburger ad and never have been taken seriously again." Yum.

Edit.. For the record the Album Urban Hymns was a great album.

you think he's cute don't you..

crockett · 05-24-2019, 03:46 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/24/enter...gbr/index.html

Guess after all these years he still has it.. from a live show the other day

oh shit.. I totally forgot about this song..

crockett · 05-24-2019, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

you think he's cute don't you..

What's with you right wingers and your gay fantasies?

05-23-2019, 10:35 PM	#1
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	A reminder of why Baby boomers and the Rolling stones are the worst people ever... Today marks the 1st day that the song writer Richard Ashcroft makes a dime from his Grammy nominated 1997 hit Bitter Sweet Sympathy by his band The Verve. Why are Baby Boomers so greedy and selfish? Why is Mick Jagger & Keith Richards such a cunts? The story for those who don't know... Also for those that claim it was the Stone's manager not Mick Jagger/Keith Richards that is not True. The Stones were behind the lawsuit to fuck over Richard Ashcroft. After they sued the fuck out of him once the song got popular the Stone's manager then fucked over Mick Jagger/Keith Richards and kept the royalties for him self. (poetic justice maybe?). Then went on to licence the Verve's song commercially and collected 100% of the money. (several millions). The extremity of this was absolutely absurd because this was never a case of the Verve "stealing" the Stones work and using a sample with out permission. The Verve legally negotiated for the rights to use the sample in their song but after the song became a hit the Stones turned around and sued him saying he used "too long" of a sample.. The now defunct British outfit The Verve sampled an orchestration on their song "Bittersweet Symphony" from The Rolling Stone's "The Last Time". Before the release of the album, The Verve negotiated a licensing agreement with The Rolling Stones to use the sample -- at least the composition rights to the sample. In 1997, The Verve's album "Urban Hymns" peaked at number 23 on the Billboard Charts. What ensued was a bitter (and not sweet) legal battle resulting in The Verve turning over 100% of the royalties to the Rolling Stones. The Rolling Stones argued that The Verve had violated the previous licensing agreement by using too much of the sample in their song. The Verve argued that The Rolling Stones got greedy when the song became successful. Herein lies the issue of moral rights of a samplist. "The last thing I ever wanted was for my music to be used in a commercial. I'm still sick about it", The Verve's lead singer Richard Ashcroft said in a recent interview. So, that's exactly what Rolling Stones manager Allen Klein did. Capitalizing off the success of the song, Klein licensed The Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony" to Nike, who proceeded to run a multi-million dollar television campaign using The Verve's song over shots of its sneakers. Klein also used the song to hawk Vauxhall automobiles. Additionally, though the song was authored by The Rolling Stones, the Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra performed the sampled recording and also filed suit upon the success of the song. (Herein lies a fine caveat to license both the recording and composition rights from whomever maintains them.) To add even more insult to injury, when "Bittersweet Symphony" was nominated for a Grammy, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were named the nominees and not The Verve. What could be more "Bittersweet" than your song reaching the top of the charts and not being able to enjoy a cent of its success? "It could've been worse," Ashcroft continued. "If we hadn't fought, 'Symphony' could've ended up on a cheeseburger ad and never have been taken seriously again." Yum. Edit.. For the record the Album Urban Hymns was a great album. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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Bryan G Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,338	Crockett, for such an annoying cunt I’m surprised you actually have good musical taste. The Verve were great and Ashcroft still is. He released an album last year and it’s fantastic. __________________ Bryan skype: bryan.glass3 \| ICQ 302999591

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crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/24/enter...gbr/index.html Guess after all these years he still has it.. from a live show the other day oh shit.. I totally forgot about this song.. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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optics So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: near Rotherham Posts: 520	Without reading the whole post (I don't do walls of text)...Boomers are greedy and selfish because they were the weak people created by good times. Thank me later.

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RedFred Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 9,782	Unlike the Stones, if the Beatles were still around they would have had more than a few hits in the past 45 years. Stones have not had one. They are the most overrated band ever. John Lennon: Micks a joke and was jealous of the Beatles