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Old 05-25-2019, 09:24 AM   #1
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Only in Texas.. Prison time for protesting oil pipeline on your own land

This is the authoritarian regime Republicans crave.. I saw this a few weeks ago but didn't think it had a chance to pas even in Texas because you know Texans claim, they are all for "land owner rights"..

Guess not anymore not so long as big oil has it's say..

Yet another unconstitutional law passed by Republicons, they passed a law saying it's now illegal to protest oil pipelines..


https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup...6R&Bill=HB3557


https://grist.org/article/texans-cou...heir-own-land/


The fight against a Texas pipeline just got a little more challenging. On Monday, the Texas Senate passed legislation that makes interfering with pipelines and other oil and gas infrastructure a crime punishable by up to a year in prison and $10,000 in fines. And just the “intent to impair or interrupt” operations could still cost you a $4,000 fine and a year behind bars.

The new legislation raises the risk for landowners hoping to block construction of Kinder Morgan’s $2 billion, 430-mile natural gas pipeline from West Texas’ Permian Basin to the Gulf Coast. The proposed project would cut through the Hill Country, an ecologically sensitive 25-county region in Central Texas that is home to the endangered golden-cheeked warbler.
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Old 05-25-2019, 09:41 AM   #2
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Old 05-25-2019, 11:28 AM   #3
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This is the authoritarian regime Republicans crave.. I saw this a few weeks ago but didn't think it had a chance to pas even in Texas because you know Texans claim, they are all for "land owner rights"..

Guess not anymore not so long as big oil has it's say..

Yet another unconstitutional law passed by Republicons, they passed a law saying it's now illegal to protest oil pipelines..


https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup...6R&Bill=HB3557


https://grist.org/article/texans-cou...heir-own-land/


The fight against a Texas pipeline just got a little more challenging. On Monday, the Texas Senate passed legislation that makes interfering with pipelines and other oil and gas infrastructure a crime punishable by up to a year in prison and $10,000 in fines. And just the “intent to impair or interrupt” operations could still cost you a $4,000 fine and a year behind bars.

The new legislation raises the risk for landowners hoping to block construction of Kinder Morgan’s $2 billion, 430-mile natural gas pipeline from West Texas’ Permian Basin to the Gulf Coast. The proposed project would cut through the Hill Country, an ecologically sensitive 25-county region in Central Texas that is home to the endangered golden-cheeked warbler.
I disagree with you on this.

Under no circumstances should anyone be allowed to interfere or interrupt construction of a oil pipeline. Or any pipeline. Or any construction site. This is just common sense.

Protesters have the right to protest. They do not, however, have the right to stop someone from doing something that is perfectly legal.

They are building a new hotel in my hometown here; It's still in the planning phase. However, a small group of people are protesting the hotel. They don't want the "crime and other activity" a hotel brings. It's been a bit of drama in our town. Tonight they are having a secret (no so secret) meeting to discuss their future plans. And that's their right. However, they have no right to protest on private property, throw things at the construction workers, or otherwise prevent them from doing their work.

I don't understand why anyone would be against a pipeline. Think it's bad for the environment? They are decades too late for that. Take a look at the map of pipelines in the United States. Your gasoline isn't trucked in by trucks from the refinery - it comes via a pipeline. As an example, all of Phoenix gets it's gas from California through one pipeline... And when that pipeline had a problem in 2003 the entire Phoenix area instantly ran out of gas.

If you want to protest, then protest. I am all for that. It's your right. But you do not have the right to interfere with someone's else life or work in the process.
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Old 05-25-2019, 11:40 AM   #4
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This is the authoritarian regime Republicans crave
What alternative is the totalitarian left wing providing?
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Old 05-25-2019, 11:50 AM   #5
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I disagree with you on this.

Under no circumstances should anyone be allowed to interfere or interrupt construction of a oil pipeline. Or any pipeline. Or any construction site. This is just common sense.

Protesters have the right to protest. They do not, however, have the right to stop someone from doing something that is perfectly legal. What is your recourse to take on corrupt politicians and a billion dollar oil companies aside from mass protest?

They are building a new hotel in my hometown here; It's still in the planning phase. However, a small group of people are protesting the hotel. They don't want the "crime and other activity" a hotel brings. It's been a bit of drama in our town. Tonight they are having a secret (no so secret) meeting to discuss their future plans. And that's their right. However, they have no right to protest on private property, throw things at the construction workers, or otherwise prevent them from doing their work.

I don't understand why anyone would be against a pipeline. Think it's bad for the environment? They are decades too late for that. Take a look at the map of pipelines in the United States. Your gasoline isn't trucked in by trucks from the refinery - it comes via a pipeline. As an example, all of Phoenix gets it's gas from California through one pipeline... And when that pipeline had a problem in 2003 the entire Phoenix area instantly ran out of gas.

If you want to protest, then protest. I am all for that. It's your right. But you do not have the right to interfere with someone's else life or work in the process.
The land has been taken illegally in many cases for this oil pipe line and there is extreme risk for contamination. We have multiple oil spills every year from pipe lines that contaminate people's land and our drinking water.. It';s not only the land the pipeline is on but everything around it is now at risk.

You don't think people should have the right to stop a private company from building a pipeline across their own land? What makes it legal anyway because some bureaucrats decide they want an oil company to take your land so now it's legal? What if it's your house, your back yard?


This is a list of oil; pipe line leaks from 2019 alone... How would you feel if any single one of those happened in your back yard or near your drinking water supply? A explosion or few thousand gallons of crude oil is no big deal right?


On January 17, a natural gas and oil explosion occurred resulting in the loss of 1.4 million dollars worth of natural gas and oil, and a fire lasting all day, in Watford city, North Dakota. There were no injuries or deaths.[2]
On January 18, an Enbridge natural gas pipeline exploded in Noble County, Ohio, causing two people to be injured along with two homes being damaged.[3]
On January 30, a crude oil spill, caused by an apparent open valve, occurred in Enid, Oklahoma. This incident resulted the loss of 750 barrels or 31,500 gallons into the environment the oil extending 5 miles down a creek.[4]
On February 2, a fire was intentionally set in Pittsylvania county, Virginia. This fire caused $500,000 worth of damage to mountain valley pipeline construction. There were no injuries or deaths.[5][6]
On February 6, a natural gas release caused a fire, in San Francisco, California. This fire lead to the evacuation of approximately 100 people in the area.[7]
On February 6, an oil spill occurred in St. Charles County, Missouri. This oil spill resulted in the release of 43 barrels or 1800 gallons of oil.[8][9]
On March 3, an Energy Transfer Partners 30 inch natural gas pipeline exploded and burned, destroying a house, that was under construction previously in Audrain County, Missouri. There were no deaths and no one was injured. The cause was Stress Corrosion Cracking. During hydrostatic testing of this pipeline, after the failure, 4 other sections of pipeline failed. It is estimated that 91,719 cubic feet of natural gas was released during the incident. [10][11]
On March 4, an oil and natural gas pipeline explosion, due to high pressure, happened in Martin County, Texas. This explosion lead to the death of 2 employees.[12][13][14]
On March 18, an oil spill occurred due to a valve leak, in Watford City, North Dakota. This occurrence resulted in 12,600 gallons of oil being released.[15]
On April 4, a natural gas pipeline explosion occurred, with officials unsure of the cause, in Longstreet, Louisiana. There were no injuries or deaths related to this incident.[16]
On April 24, a Magellan Midstream Partners pipeline was detected to be losing pressure. Investigation found a leak in the pipeline, near Cottonwood, Minnesota. About 8,400 gallons of diesel fuel had leaked from the pipeline.[17]
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If you have no right to protect your property from oil companies, then what's next? Take your land for Foxcon to build a warehouse on and they pay you pennies on the dollar for what it's worth because they can use the legal system to force you out because they need it..
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Pretty easy to see crockoshit doesn't own any land.
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Old 05-25-2019, 12:51 PM   #7
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Pretty easy to see crockoshit doesn't own any land.
do parking spaces count?
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