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Old 05-30-2019, 01:21 AM   #51
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why waste my time on something I have done on here before several times with someone who ignores what I say anyways?
So why did Obama waste tax payers money building fences?

So it will be easy to link it to the posts or just as easy to post here why a wall won't stop 1% of the people now walking across the border to justify it's costs. Claiming the entire border needs a wall is stupid as a lot of the border is in areas that people can't walk across.
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Old 05-30-2019, 01:28 AM   #52
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The end result is the same. It's going to take them half an hour longer but they will still get here. What's the point of spending billions and billions of tax dollars only to change nothing?
So why did Obama waste tax payers money building fences?

Please someone answer this simple question. Was Obama wrong or right to build fences?

The liberals can't claim building a wall is a waste of money and praise or ignore Obama building fences. Which they have to accept are less effective than a wall. They want it both ways.

Your point about illegal immigrants switching to tunnels is nonsense. If that was so easy why are they walking and risking capture, walking through inhospitable areas instead of all coming via tunnels now?
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:57 AM   #53
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Private border wall construction halts after New Mexico town protests

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... after a New Mexico town ruled the project lacked necessary permits.
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Old 05-30-2019, 09:07 AM   #54
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Lol Paul still mad we had a black president over here... even tho dude been gone for years now.

Everything trump does is excused by "but the black guy, but that lady" etc...

Yall ain't racist or sexist tho, right?
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Old 05-30-2019, 09:52 AM   #55
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Of course I meant the entire project and later on in the post I quoted the $5 billion.

Now make a case where The Wall can't save more than it cost. A one off $5 billion against the cost of welfare, policing, prisons, health care, etc. Don't say more guards unless you've found people to do the job or plan to pay them enough so they have sufficient numbers.

And don't say more restrictions on hiring ICE officers until a Democrat Government enforces the laws you have. Instead of liberal campaigners trying to shut ICE down.

Illegal immigration is bigger problem in Europe with our liberal politicians doing nothing and there's the problem. Until people vote out these clowns no one will do anything about it.

A one off 5 billion? Are you this delusional? 1st off 5 billion isn't even close enough to do a complete wall. Its closer to 20-30 billion.

Next is 100s of millions to keep the walls maintained..

Next. 90% of illegals come in legally and overstay their visas
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:20 AM   #56
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Hey dumbfuck, the word is fucking border. Ignorant fucking white trash Floridian.
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:23 AM   #57
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I have said before and will say it again, if we got rid of birthright citizenship that would stop illegals from coming here, having kids, then getting welfare. If we also went hard after those who hire illegals they will stop hiring them. If people know they can't get jobs or welfare, they will stop coming here.

Of course, the prices of some things will go up because they are going to have to pay more for Americans to do those jobs, but a wall will only stop a few people. Cutting off their ability to support themselves will stop many.
That would solve most of it but we know who would be against that, right?
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:36 AM   #58
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I have said before and will say it again, if we got rid of birthright citizenship that would stop illegals from coming here, having kids, then getting welfare. If we also went hard after those who hire illegals they will stop hiring them. If people know they can't get jobs or welfare, they will stop coming here.
This is a simple fix and both party's could of fixed this and neither sides choose to. Its a talking point each side loves to use at election time.
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:39 AM   #59
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That would solve most of it but we know who would be against that, right?
Both parties would be against it. Democrats likely wouldn't want to do away with birthright citizenship and Republicans are making a lot of money on the backs of illegals so they wouldn't want it either.
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:43 AM   #60
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Both parties would be against it. Democrats likely wouldn't want to do away with birthright citizenship and Republicans are making a lot of money on the backs of illegals so they wouldn't want it either.
Exactly why choosing one of these retarded parties is.... retarded.
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:57 PM   #61
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A one off 5 billion? Are you this delusional? 1st off 5 billion isn't even close enough to do a complete wall. Its closer to 20-30 billion.

Next is 100s of millions to keep the walls maintained..

Next. 90% of illegals come in legally and overstay their visas
https://www.politifact.com/californi...lf-all-people/

Those who lie to prove a point are easily defeated.
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:58 PM   #62
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Both parties would be against it. Democrats likely wouldn't want to do away with birthright citizenship and Republicans are making a lot of money on the backs of illegals so they wouldn't want it either.
Which is why America and Europe will never solve the problem.
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:04 PM   #63
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^America is actually almost done solving it. See sig for more info.
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Why did Obama get praised for building fences along the border and Trump gets vilified for trying to build a wall where people are walking across?

Either both are wrong or both are right. They both cost similar to build and maintain, both require extra measures, neither will stop over stayers, one is easier to climb that the other, both can be tunnelled under, etc.

Yet one is right and the other wrong. And I can't explain why, can someone else? Please.
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Why did Obama get praised for building fences along the border and Trump gets vilified for trying to build a wall where people are walking across?

Either both are wrong or both are right. They both cost similar to build and maintain, both require extra measures, neither will stop over stayers, one is easier to climb that the other, both can be tunnelled under, etc.

Yet one is right and the other wrong. And I can't explain why, can someone else? Please.
Because you are an idiot, just like Trump....

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