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Paying an American company 13 million $ for information ( no matter where it came from ) using campaign funds is not a crime. Accepting information of value from a foreign entity free of charge is, whats so difficult to understand ?
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Republicans, not Hillary, paid Christopher Steele, a private person not a government, in a country that is an Ally, not a Foe, for research. When the republicans canceled the investigation, the DNC picked it up. Russia, a Foe of the US, committed a crime when they hacked the DNC email servers, and offered it to Trump. (If) (The) Trump (Campaign) used that information, he committed a crime. What idiot Trump said yesterday is that he would do it again. Pay attention. I know you can do it. Quote:
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They DON'T CARE if their leader is a criminal. They don't care if he is a dictator. They don't care if he is destroying the planet. They don't care if what they are doing is killing democracy. They only care about hating those that are different. That is it. |
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That was 100% the Clinton campaign paying for that. $13 MILLION dollars worth. There was no "investigation" that "republicans canceled". It was all anti-Trump research. The Republican anti-Trumpers (elitists like Bill Krystal) stopped paying Fusion GPS when they realized that Trump was going to win the nomination. The "Republicans" were one client. The DNC was a totally different client. I know the media has convinced you that two separate clients equal the same exact thing. They don't. They don't in your business, my business, or anyone's business. What the DNC did with Fusion GPS was completely different than what the Republicans did when they hired them. And NO...President Trump did not get "offered" stuff that Russia allegedly "hacked" the DNC email servers for. ALL of that had already been put out on Wiki Leaks. There was nothing left to "offer". You are spreading misinformation Mark. Which is what keeps people constantly divided and fighting. The ONLY campaign that paid for and colluded with a foreign govt. for "dirt" on their opponent was the Democrat National Committee with the Clinton Campaign. |
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In the Senate Thursday, Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-Va.) sought to call up and pass legislation requiring candidates to report attempts at foreign elections interference to federal authorities. Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), a staunch ally to the president, blocked the move. https://www.salon.com/2019/06/14/sen...russian-money/ Care to rephrase that, sir Robbie? |
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The Congress could do this right now. They won't. Doesn't matter if you put a "D" or an "R" in front of their names. Doesn't matter if you call them a "staunch ally" (whatever that means) of Pres. Trump. Go over to the House. Pelosi and the Dems are in charge. And they are the ones who simply will not get over the election or the Mueller Report. So WHY doesn't Pelosi put up a bill? She won't. And yet they profess to be "concerned" about the 2020 election. What a load of b.s. You are so caught up in believing in "Team Sports" for politics that you just refuse to see that they are ALL corrupt. Congress and the Senate are the home of no term limits. They are lifetime pieces of garbage. But in your eyes? Democrats = Great! Republicans = Evil! |
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But Robbie - you explicitly said that it should be illegal. The Dems agree with you on this. But the republicans are blocking it. They are stopping something that even you agree should be done. |
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Wouldn't expect anything less from the criminal Trump
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You're right, and It blows my fucking little mind to pieces. It's so strange. It is as if they believe in their own personal image of Trump, but completely ignore all the shit he does.
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It says exactly what I told you. This is insanity. |
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I fucking told you it should be illegal. I also fucking told you that the Congress is CORRUPT. And just because a particular Senator brings something up doesn't mean that they would actually VOTE on it. Like the "Green New Deal". When that was brought up for a vote in the Senate a month ago...the Democrats ran away from it. You act ignorant. As if you don't understand "political theater" or politics in any way at all. I don't believe your act. And if you really are this ignorant...then why must you incessantly come on here over and over to spread misinfomation? It's pretty simple...Russia, China, North Korea, Syria, and every adversary we have had in history has tried to "influence" both our elections AND govt. officials in power. The lifetime bureaucrats in Congress KNOW this. They aren't ignorant like you pretend to be. And yet they have never done anything about it. Why? Because they all are on the dole either directly or indirectly (through lobbyists) to foreign governments. Pelosi could call for a vote RIGHT NOW. And she has all the votes she needs to pass something in the House. They certainly have wasted their entire time in control of that chamber so far...so why not? Because she is as corrupt as her Republican counter-parts. That's why I voted for Trump. He isn't a Republican and he's not a Democrat. He's an American. |
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I will repeat my point because some of you dumber than normal people have missed.
Should a candidate for the President sit on information that an opponent has done something illegal only because that info came from a foreign government? We all know Trump will push the boundaries, but if a government official is only allowed to work with the info he gets from domestic sources. It's a loss for Democracy. |
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2 days before the elections such a case went on hillary. it influenced the elections and after that it was just warm air. or is hillary in jail ? so what do you think trump would do with such an information even when it is without any prove ? every fucking corrupt government in the world would give hin every hoax he wants - he can use it a few days before elections and after that he can say it was a missinformation form someone else. and do you really SEE the difference when such an appeal is made by a unimportant canidate or the incumbent president ??? do you really believe that something like that could even be SAID by any european leader ? it would not take a week and he would be out of office - and this is good so. sure trump need dirt on others because he have not a single qualification so he can only win by telling the people that others are even less qualified than him. |
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You call the fucking FBI like the law requires. Now stfu and stop asking the same damn thing 20 different times. |
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Trump's name comes up because he is at the forefront of this right now by admitting on TV he would take foreign aid in his 2020 campaign. It all needs to be cleaned up. They all need to go. I don't feel sorry for Trump because he brings most of this on himself. My position is very simple. Anyone running for POTUS should not be allowed to take help of any kind from foreign governments. No matter the party. No matter who they are. No matter the reason. I don't care who did it in the past. The past if over and we can't change that. We can change the future. Let's do better and expect better from our leaders going forward. |
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Both sides of the aisle have shit on their hands here. This should be a bipartisan thing that should be easy to pass and get signed. |
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I dare you to go back 4 years ago and look at the things you were outraged at Obama for and then compare that to what you now make excuses for. For the record I'm being serious and not trolling.. |
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I'm happy to have this discussion with you until we're both blue in the face, but can you please lay-off the language with me? I ge t that this is GFY but there's no need to make it personal with me. (Or Rochard for that matter. He's cool beans.) (Your good Canadian friend and soon-to-be Triangle-playing member of your band, Mark) |
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Robbie - Tell you me that you agree with Kane here. You have to. |
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What if the info wasn't a crime but would make the candidate look bad to the electorate? What goes for one candidate applies to them all. |
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You mean like he did before? ![]() “I don’t think in my whole life I’ve ever called the F.B.I. In my whole life,” Mr. Trump said dismissively. “You don’t call the F.B.I. You throw somebody out of your office, you do whatever you do.” He added, “Give me a break — life doesn’t work that way.” |
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.23e0b5c0e2ff On the rest: You're too far gone. Good luck to you. |
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you mean when trump said he would listen to NORWAY, a nato member about suspicious issues?
while the chinese gave biden son 1.5 BILLION dollars?? https://nypost.com/2019/05/06/joe-bidens-china-problem/ Indeed, the younger Biden has long been in deep with China’s “not bad” elite, as Peter Schweizer revealed in his book “Secret Empires.” Notably, Hunter’s private equity firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, swung a $1.5 billion investment deal with the state-owned Bank of China even as his then-vice president dad was engaged in high-end diplomacy with Beijing. no conflict of interest there, like hillary with the russian ![]() |
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Stupid statement. Now tell us when he didn't before, what info did he get about a politician breaking the law and not reporting it to the FBI? |
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It's no different than Clinton taking made up info from foreign spies to frame trump with (the fake dossier ) ... which didn't work.
So why shouldn't Trump be able to take real info from foreign sources ? |
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I expect my leaders to use all the true information they find to attack their opponents and to follow the law in using it. Some here only want to stop Trump from doing it. |
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