Business Cam Model Piracy: It's been an issue for a while!!

[RyuLion]

Fans have been recording private cam sessions and uploading them to tubes.

Who else has experienced this issue?

[AdultKing]

Not just tubes, there are torrent sites dedicated to private cam shows.

[Tjeezers]

too many not responding on DMCA's
I started to chase the media buyers from the programs, and note them they are supporting the thieves with their ad-deals. It seems they have an influence on the thieves and a bad habit of keeping them alive.

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Not just tubes, there are torrent sites dedicated to private cam shows.

Yes, there are! Lots of them get tons of traffic too, and even have ad spots!!

[Rochard]

Doesn't this defeat the purpose of a live cam show? The entire purpose is to tell a model to do something and then they do it. Live.

Having someone else call the shots and not being live.... You might as well just go to a tube site.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Doesn't this defeat the purpose of a live cam show? The entire purpose is to tell a model to do something and then they do it. Live.

Having someone else call the shots and not being live.... You might as well just go to a tube site.

have you ever watched cam shows? It's 5-10 people paying for things or goals and 100's of freeloaders.

I would say the biggest negative of cam shows on tubes is that many models block their home state so the family doesn't find out and the family finds girls on porn tubes far more than they find them actually camming.

[Cobra69erss]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Doesn't this defeat the purpose of a live cam show? The entire purpose is to tell a model to do something and then they do it. Live.

Having someone else call the shots and not being live.... You might as well just go to a tube site.

True but for models that don't get nude or do anything in public chat it gives them what they are looking for seeing her nude with sex toys etc

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by SBJ

have you ever watched cam shows? It's 5-10 people paying for things or goals and 100's of freeloaders.

I would say the biggest negative of cam shows on tubes is that many models block their home state so the family doesn't find out and the family finds girls on porn tubes far more than they find them actually camming.

Yes, they have to because their families are traditional and religious.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Doesn't this defeat the purpose of a live cam........ You might as well just go to a tube site.

And many do. The issue with the models ( and I have talked to a few) is that they believed they would remain annonymous. That is why they gave up porn. But then "voila" grandpa, pa, mum,the employer, the neighbour finds them doing " naughty bits" worse then on porn clips. So a big panic and DMCA up to the ying yang...

[Dirty Dane]

In the past, pirate sites with adult content were sponsored by some big cam sites. And now the cam sites are pirated. Not that I endorse piracy, but the irony is easy to spot. And it was predictable.

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

In the past, pirate sites with adult content were sponsored by some big cam sites. And now the cam sites are pirated. Not that I endorse piracy, but the irony is easy to spot. And it was predictable.

I know it sucks, they're using other people's content and are probably getting paid by their ad views!!

[pornguy]

The sad thing is the way that the pirate sites just keep going.

Registrar its not hosted here.
Host We asked them to take it down but dmca does not apply here
Ad spots. We dont host the content.

Its always the same shit and the reason being a pirate often pays so well.

[magneto664]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Not just tubes, there are torrent sites dedicated to private cam shows.

Lool looks like a serious business.

[Paul Markham]

Welcome to the world of online porn.

[seriouslee]

Maybe @Crak_Eric from Crakrevenue and @mxevilll from Stripcash care to say some words about it.

With this said, camsites should provide affiliates with more promo material. No excuse to use pirated material until then though.

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Welcome to the world of online porn.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by seriouslee

camsites should provide affiliates with more promo material.

They do : https://illsex.com/awe/

See sig.

My entire site is content provided by sponsor.

[brassmonkey]

i have seen these sites. the thing is they want the private show from a particular model.

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

They do : https://illsex.com/awe/

See sig.

My entire site is content provided by sponsor.

[Paul Markham]

If it appears online, it can and will be copied and distributed. Girls have to be told that today, assuming they don't know it already.

Girls who want to make real money webcamming will be putting up videos of themselves as promotional material from the YT type to Pornhub level. Marketing themselves as a unique special experience.

[AmeliaG]

The people who spend substantial dough on cams are paying for the interaction, so tube and torrent posts will only drive sales, so long as the model name and site name are included. For models who promote their careers, those sorts of posts aren't really a minus because the product is more the personal touch than just seeing them nude on video.

It is still a dick move for someone to record a private show.

But it is a really bad idea to do anything in the digital world that would ruin your life, if it went on, as it were, your permanent record. If a model would have a super bad time, if anyone knew, cam sites should disclose that location blocks are imperfect and those models should really consider other jobs.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

The people who spend substantial dough on cams are paying for the interaction, so tube and torrent posts will only drive sales, so long as the model name and site name are included. For models who promote their careers, those sorts of posts aren't really a minus because the product is more the personal touch than just seeing them nude on video.

It is still a dick move for someone to record a private show.

But it is a really bad idea to do anything in the digital world that would ruin your life, if it went on, as it were, your permanent record. If a model would have a super bad time, if anyone knew, cam sites should disclose that location blocks are imperfect and those models should really consider other jobs.

makes me wonder if cam companies are doing it

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

makes me wonder if cam companies are doing it

I'd guess different companies have varied strategies, but I've seen cam affiliate programs promote tutorials on sort of how to do this, so, yeah, what you said.

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

I'd guess different companies have varied strategies, but I've seen cam affiliate programs promote tutorials on sort of how to do this, so, yeah, what you said.

yeap..

What about you Amelia?
What us to do a piracy scan of all your sites?
SpookyCash - BlueBlood's alt punk gothic subcultural affiliate program

[pimpmaster9000]

They even record non nude free chat LOL...they sell the recordings over file locker...its a bot...

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by RyuLion

yeap..

What about you Amelia?
What us to do a piracy scan of all your sites?
SpookyCash - BlueBlood's alt punk gothic subcultural affiliate program

You'd have to get on line, as it happens so frequently.

SpookyCash sites sell access to content, not to cam interaction, so the end product doesn't have the same way to benefit.

If a model tells me they don't want people to know they modeled nude, I disclose that people likely will find out and recommend they don't model nude for me or anyone else and I don't shoot them.

I don't post tutorials on doing cam site promo with recorded shows on BHW and similar sites, but multiple cam programs do. Do you think they post those tutorials hoping people will not follow them and pirate shows? I stated that I'd guess different companies have varied strategies. But some clearly utilize and promote the recording strategy. I don't know if you do. I assume you don't, if you are unhappy about it. But, based on other programs, I'd also guess it could make you sales.

Do you actually disagree with any of that?

So how does what I do have anything in common with any of that such that you would feel appropriate being cranky and threatening at me? Were you just thinking I didn't understand that piracy is a drag or ?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by RyuLion

yeap..

What about you Amelia?
What us to do a piracy scan of all your sites?
SpookyCash - BlueBlood's alt punk gothic subcultural affiliate program

if you want to see piracy google adult porn list see if pornbb is there. all of them list pirate sites! right next to sponsors!

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

You'd have to get on line, as it happens so frequently.

SpookyCash sites sell access to content, not to cam interaction, so the end product doesn't have the same way to benefit.

If a model tells me they don't want people to know they modeled nude, I disclose that people likely will find out and recommend they don't model nude for me or anyone else and I don't shoot them.

I don't post tutorials on doing cam site promo with recorded shows on BHW and similar sites, but multiple cam programs do. Do you think they post those tutorials hoping people will not follow them and pirate shows? I stated that I'd guess different companies have varied strategies. But some clearly utilize and promote the recording strategy. I don't know if you do. I assume you don't, if you are unhappy about it. But, based on other programs, I'd also guess it could make you sales.

Do you actually disagree with any of that?

So how does what I do have anything in common with any of that such that you would feel appropriate being cranky and threatening at me? Were you just thinking I didn't understand that piracy is a drag or ?

He just started a bullshit thread to try and get a client or two.

[Sharon1974]

In response to a post on this board ( looking for for a good bulk content deal), we got an email from a someone selling (!) recorded cam streams... WTF!

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by Sharon1974

In response to a post on this board ( looking for for a good bulk content deal), we got an email from a someone selling (!) recorded cam streams... WTF!

There are a couple of now defunct cam companies who recorded all live shows and now sell that out as content.

[PornGrowsOnTrees]

Too bad there is nothing that can be implemented that when software is used to record cam shows it just shows a bunch of gibberish.

[lock]

I thought her lips were moving.

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by trevesty

He just started a bullshit thread to try and get a client or two.

It's not bullshit Sir. How have you been?

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

You'd have to get on line, as it happens so frequently.

SpookyCash sites sell access to content, not to cam interaction, so the end product doesn't have the same way to benefit.

If a model tells me they don't want people to know they modeled nude, I disclose that people likely will find out and recommend they don't model nude for me or anyone else and I don't shoot them.

I don't post tutorials on doing cam site promo with recorded shows on BHW and similar sites, but multiple cam programs do. Do you think they post those tutorials hoping people will not follow them and pirate shows? I stated that I'd guess different companies have varied strategies. But some clearly utilize and promote the recording strategy. I don't know if you do. I assume you don't, if you are unhappy about it. But, based on other programs, I'd also guess it could make you sales.

Do you actually disagree with any of that?

So how does what I do have anything in common with any of that such that you would feel appropriate being cranky and threatening at me? Were you just thinking I didn't understand that piracy is a drag or ?

Sorry for the emoji misunderstand, I go agree with you.