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Old 05-16-2020, 04:17 AM   #1
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New project - cam, blog or pic site?

I want to start some new projects, what GFYers think - cam, blog or pic site? Which site easiest to run and better in long-term?
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Old 05-16-2020, 04:46 AM   #2
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If you are down to asking people(and bots) on GFY, you might as well just apply at MacD
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Old 05-16-2020, 05:44 AM   #3
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Easiest to run would be tube aggregator , as it can be fully automated with only required action building backlink profile and some customization.
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Old 05-16-2020, 05:46 AM   #4
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I'd rather run a cam site, automate it and make money (easier said than done of course)
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Old 05-16-2020, 10:34 AM   #5
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Easiest to run would be tube aggregator , as it can be fully automated with only required action building backlink profile and some customization.
have you ever tried setting one up though?

even if you're using a pre-made script like smartCJ or streamrotator it's not easy. The difference between a smartCJ site made by someone who knows what they're doing, and a smartCJ site made by an amateur, is huge. An expert can dominate google with smartCJ. An amateur will probably never make money.

Also, because you need a ton of traffic to make real money, and you usually have a very large database, there can be a lot of technical challenges to solve. My day-to-day life involves things like waking up to a crashed database or disk swapping causing runaway I/O or some crawler from russia is hitting me 10x/second or my grabber broke because the dump format changed or my traffic grew and my server is now at 80% capacity and I have to decide whether to try to make the script more efficient or move to a larger server (which means fully configuring a new server) or maybe even break out the database into multiple servers...

There are times you will literally find me screaming at my laptop "Oh fuck, everything is fucked, I will never recover from this problem"...of course, this is my bread and butter, so I work until I solve the issues. But it can be a very stressful, difficult job.

So I take exception, to the idea that "tube aggregator would be easiest to run"
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Old 05-16-2020, 10:37 AM   #6
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Old 05-16-2020, 10:37 AM   #7
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I want to start some new projects, what GFYers think - cam, blog or pic site? Which site easiest to run and better in long-term?
cam niche is ultra-competitive and very hard to differentiate yourself from competition. I would stay away unless you have large budget for buying links.

blog and pic sites are both good because you can make money selling links. Especially on a blog. For many webmasters selling links is much more profitable than the small amount of SE traffic they are able to get.

I would also recommend directory sites, for the same reason. If you can make a site webmasters want links on, you can make money.
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Old 05-16-2020, 11:10 AM   #8
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have you ever tried setting one up though?

even if you're using a pre-made script like smartCJ or streamrotator it's not easy. The difference between a smartCJ site made by someone who knows what they're doing, and a smartCJ site made by an amateur, is huge. An expert can dominate google with smartCJ. An amateur will probably never make money.

Also, because you need a ton of traffic to make real money, and you usually have a very large database, there can be a lot of technical challenges to solve. My day-to-day life involves things like waking up to a crashed database or disk swapping causing runaway I/O or some crawler from russia is hitting me 10x/second or my grabber broke because the dump format changed or my traffic grew and my server is now at 80% capacity and I have to decide whether to try to make the script more efficient or move to a larger server (which means fully configuring a new server) or maybe even break out the database into multiple servers...

There are times you will literally find me screaming at my laptop "Oh fuck, everything is fucked, I will never recover from this problem"...of course, this is my bread and butter, so I work until I solve the issues. But it can be a very stressful, difficult job.

So I take exception, to the idea that "tube aggregator would be easiest to run"
I had once situation where semrush bot was rampaging on my site, crawling all videos at once, had to ban on firewall level in order to stop server crush.
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Old 05-18-2020, 01:31 PM   #9
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Tube aggregator sounds great, but I don't know how to set up everything, can you recommend me someone?
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Old 05-19-2020, 02:40 AM   #10
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maybe blog , yeah maybe will take longer time but results will be great .
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Old 05-19-2020, 02:58 AM   #11
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If you don't have $200-250k to invest outside of the development costs, you are destined to fail with a cam site
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Old 05-19-2020, 03:00 AM   #12
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If you don't have $200-250k to invest outside of the development costs, you are destined to fail with a cam site
Dont think he refer to regular cam site, but a white-label/profile scrapper what most of webmasters run.
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Old 05-19-2020, 03:07 AM   #13
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Old 05-27-2020, 08:42 AM   #14
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have you ever tried setting one up though?

even if you're using a pre-made script like smartCJ or streamrotator it's not easy. The difference between a smartCJ site made by someone who knows what they're doing, and a smartCJ site made by an amateur, is huge. An expert can dominate google with smartCJ. An amateur will probably never make money.
I will go with SmartCJ, what's the most important things when it comes to setting up the script?
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Old 05-29-2020, 10:55 PM   #15
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Old 05-30-2020, 08:36 AM   #17
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If you don't have $200-250k to invest outside of the development costs, you are destined to fail with a cam site
I've ran the numbers and IMO think it could be done with $50k but yeah--it's a huge investment, and huge risk
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