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Old 03-19-2021, 01:20 PM   #1
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Remember Dreamweaver?

I used to use Dreamweaver before Adobe bought it and fucked it to pieces. Can anyone recommend a good HTML editor with WYSIWYG capabilities? I'm looking at Coffeecup HTML editor but maybe there is something else out there a little more similar to Dreamweaver. Also I know how to use notepad and do it the hard way but I'm lazy these days.
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Old 03-19-2021, 01:36 PM   #2
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The browser for linux "sea monkey" has an editor that i like.

Edit: it seems to exist for windows
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When I first started coding in PHP many many years ago, i was using Dreamweaver because I could switch to WYSIWYG editor to make tables (this is back in the day before CSS became popular). I didn't realize there was things that were so much better.
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Is there actually a decent WYSIWYG editor that generates efficient responsive CSS?
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Never used it but it does remind me of an old song?
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OK I guess thats not true ! It appears to have uninstalled itself !
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I guess that's the downside of paying for a full copy - they can disable it at their end. Had I used a downloaded 'cracked' copy, I'd still be able to use it today... Hmmmm
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I loved Dreamweaver. I'm way more dependent on developers since Adobe ruined it.

I also loved ImageReady.
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Remember Dreamweaver? LOL. I remember Frontpage.

I still use Dreamweaver in the event I need to do some HTML. Not often these days.
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This looks like some sophisticated software, gonna look at this closer for something else. Maybe too much for editing html.

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Hell, I remember Navisoft. Frontpage came out and sucked hind teat.
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We have several clients that still use Dreamweaver.

The real question: who still remembers AOL Press? That's how I learned HTML and built my very first Metallica fan site!
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But I also remembered that i cunt a4d Frontpage...

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I used Composer in Netscape at some stage as well. Adobe royally fucked Dreamweaver for sure, much as I love Photoshop they could not get their website creation stuff right - dare I say 'Go Live' ... what another piece of shit, even Frontpage had the edge on that one.

I honestly fucking hate WP and that seems what I'm stuck with now, much as I'd rather work with something like Dreamweaver as well and just 'tweak' where required.
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There is blue fish or something out there. Unfortunately, Dreamweaver was the best for WYSIWYG.

You should try Apache Netbeans. Its not WYSIWYG but one hell of a good IDE, much better than notepad with structure and color coding. There are a few plug ins you can apply to make forms and a few other HTML related items easier.

I have been using it for years now. I just recently upgraded to the newest version, I was using the older 8.2 Oracle version which was flawless... Apache took it over and their latest version seems to be pretty stable. I did import my 8.2 settings and have been happy with it.
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WTF people!

It takes two weeks to learn all of HTML; but you spent 20 years fucking with dumb shit instead.

I agree that it's more complicated when you add CSS and javascript; but you had 20 fucking years already!

I'm not saying you should be a developer like myself; but don't call me because your banner link goes to the wrong paysite.

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WTF people!

It takes two weeks to learn all of HTML; but you spent 20 years fucking with dumb shit instead.

I agree that it's more complicated when you add CSS and javascript; but you had 20 fucking years already!

I'm not saying you should be a developer like myself; but don't call me because your banner link goes to the wrong paysite.

You have a point, but me for example I don't have anymore time so that's why I hire programmers like you.
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WTF people!

It takes two weeks to learn all of HTML; but you spent 20 years fucking with dumb shit instead.

I agree that it's more complicated when you add CSS and javascript; but you had 20 fucking years already!

I'm not saying you should be a developer like myself; but don't call me because your banner link goes to the wrong paysite.

I've had more than 20 years fucking with html, that's why I'm looking for something to so I don't have to waste time coding one letter at a time. But thanks for stating the obvious. I'll just use Notepad and hand code an entire website. Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes tops.

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Visual studio code, it will auto generate tags, makes writing code fast.
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If you are using windows and making static pages, this program is decent.

https://www.xara.com/us/designer-pro/

A lot of control over the layout of the page, basically put things where you want, the software re-writes all the code to make it view properly. For this reason, edinging these pages outside of the program is very difficult.

It comes packed with a bunch of effects and add-ons to allow some really nice layouts. Easier to get around the responsive design, all sites start to look alike, framework.

Again, I would only recommend this if you are making static sites.
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Hot Dog Pro was my HTML tutor. I learned it from the program and never used it again.

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Anybody ever used coffeecup html editor? I've still got a copy of the last Dreamweaver before the adobe shits ruined it. On my main machine it won't run unless I close Chrome browser. But then neither will CuteFTP. I'm going to install it on fresh machine and see if I can get a few more miles out of it. After all, html hasn't changed all that much has it?
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Frontpage would generate so much extraneous code that it was almost useless. Microsoft is nearly always behind the eight ball with their shit. Although they may have actually got something right with the Edge browser.
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The real question: who still remembers AOL Press? That's how I learned HTML and built my very first Metallica fan site!
I did not build that but other things with it.

As well as one called HotDog Express I think it was.
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I built a Top List in 1999ish in FP - It worked really well! - lol - My first app!..

Everyone had the same 14 inch screen - So much easier!..
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I guess that's the downside of paying for a full copy - they can disable it at their end. Had I used a downloaded 'cracked' copy, I'd still be able to use it today... Hmmmm
I do not like the new Adobe. Subscription software.... FUCK THAT!!!

What is even more scary, a la cart software. There is a company, Reallusion, has reasonable software prices, but the needed plug-ins will break you! I swear in the past 2 months i dropped over 3k with this company and still cannot do full body animation. Need the mocap gear and the plug-ins for that... another 2-3k will be needed
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Originally Posted by blackmonsters View Post
WTF people!

It takes two weeks to learn all of HTML; but you spent 20 years fucking with dumb shit instead.

I agree that it's more complicated when you add CSS and javascript; but you had 20 fucking years already!

I'm not saying you should be a developer like myself; but don't call me because your banner link goes to the wrong paysite.

So angry. RaWr.
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