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Old 08-26-2021, 11:41 AM   #1
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Crakrevenue blocked all traffic from my review site

Hey guys,

Just want to share my recent story with Crakrevenue. After chatting about one of their offers I promote on my review site, I suddenly got info that they will block all traffic coming from my site if:
- I don't remove a category containing keyword "incest"
- Remove like 10 specific sites from listing
- Rename certain categories, etc.

Of course, it's not an easy thing to do to just remove sites where I have closed deals with, rename or remove categories that bring me traffic, etc.

So all my traffic from that site is blocked now. And I'm thinking about sending traffic from other adult sites I have elsewhere as well.

I've been working with them for like 4 years and was quite happy about the collaboration (except affiliate managers exchanging quite often). But this is not a behavior I think I could accept. Them dictating which sites I can list and which not, what categories I can or can't have, etc.

Do you have similar experiences with them?
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Old 08-26-2021, 11:51 AM   #2
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Sounds like its time for new business partners
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Old 08-26-2021, 11:56 AM   #3
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I am pretty sure it is related to this: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...nt-policy.html

I have sent you an email using your site's contact form.
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Old 08-26-2021, 12:01 PM   #4
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I am pretty sure it is related to this: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...nt-policy.html

I have sent you an email using your site's contact form.
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Old 08-26-2021, 12:31 PM   #5
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Hmm, yeah that definitely is cause of this.

I'm just wondering why I got all traffic blocked while other big review sites still have these categories, sites, etc listed and their traffic is not blocked. You know... I am blocked because I don't drive that much traffic yet? The rules are different for bigger players?

And then there is the thing that I don't do anything wrong on my site. It is stated in "Incest" category that all incest porn is staged and not real. And there are sites that need to make sure that there are not illegal content on them. These sites are paysites which of course can't have that content or are monetized through ad networks that ban sites with illegal content, too. So I don't really see a reason about this keyword sensitivity. I guess soon I can't have Anal category because you know, it's extreme and maybe some girls don't like it and I don't have IDs of those girl to verify age, etc. But that's something that site with content should solve. Not me. I really find this shit ridiculous.

j3rkules: replied to your mail

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Old 08-26-2021, 12:31 PM   #6
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Are you sure Crak is best option to earn ?
Did you tested other networks ?
I did many tests (PPL) and found 2 things:

1. Crak usually does not count leads.
2. Their performance is worst of all networks tested.

Tests was done with Tier1 SEO traffic, dating PPL smartlinks as popunders / banners.
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Old 08-26-2021, 12:35 PM   #7
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Are you sure Crak is best option to earn ?
Did you tested other networks ?
I did many tests (PPL) and found 2 things:

1. Crak usually does not count leads.
2. Their performance is worst of all networks tested.

Tests was done with Tier1 SEO traffic, dating PPL smartlinks as popunders / banners.
I know there are other networks that perform better in certain areas, I work with lots of them. Crakrevenue is not a big part of my income. But there are offers that I rank for and some of those offers are not anywhere else. And I liked cooperating with them. I just wanted to know if those rules apply for others, too - certainly not for bigger sites - and if there is anything I can do with it apart following ridiculous rules.
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Old 08-26-2021, 04:24 PM   #8
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A lot of programs have rules about certain keywords, with the one you listed being one that is frequently prohibited. It's currently a very popular niche, so consider 'taboo' or 'family fantasy' instead.
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Old 08-26-2021, 08:40 PM   #9
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Old 08-26-2021, 09:23 PM   #10
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Are you sure Crak is best option to earn ?
Did you tested other networks ?
I did many tests (PPL) and found 2 things:

1. Crak usually does not count leads.
2. Their performance is worst of all networks tested.

Tests was done with Tier1 SEO traffic, dating PPL smartlinks as popunders / banners.
What do you mean by "do not count leads" ? I brought a lot of clicks since months and not a single penny maybe I did not bring enough traffic, I made money with other platforms with less customers...
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Old 08-26-2021, 11:37 PM   #11
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What do you mean by "do not count leads" ?
Well, i did a test.

I set 3 unique fingerprint browsers with 3 Tier1 countries residential IPs.
And made 3 test signups, confirmed emails.
No one lead was counted.
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Old 09-06-2021, 09:03 AM   #12
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Well, i did a test.

I set 3 unique fingerprint browsers with 3 Tier1 countries residential IPs.
And made 3 test signups, confirmed emails.
No one lead was counted.
My conversion rate is the lowest too :-( sent 10,000 ppl, 37 sign ups, 0,21$ ....
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Old 09-06-2021, 09:53 AM   #13
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I had similar issues with Crak too, we did a big project involving my team and theirs, was beginning to make money on PPL's

Out of the blue - they said they were killing the entire program, no discussion why, not even a discussion about PPL's rates

Needless to say, I will never work with them again, never had one issue ever with any of my sites traffic...

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I had similar issues with Crak too, we did a big project involving my team and theirs, was beginning to make money on PPL's

Out of the blue - they said they were killing the entire program, no discussion why, not even a discussion about PPL's rates

Needless to say, I will never work with them again, never had one issue ever with any of my sites traffic...

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What sucks is that they own tons of programs and offers, so sometimes for my porn links there are no other alternatives. Especially for adult gaming...
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Old 09-06-2021, 11:59 PM   #15
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Old 09-07-2021, 01:07 AM   #16
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Well, i did a test.

I set 3 unique fingerprint browsers with 3 Tier1 countries residential IPs.
And made 3 test signups, confirmed emails.
No one lead was counted.
i'm not sure what method you used to change country but antifraud softwares detects VPN really easily in my humble experience
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i'm not sure what method you used to change country but antifraud softwares detects VPN really easily in my humble experience
No, i did not used any VPN.
I used residential IPs - it is a same as your home PC or mobile phone on 4G.
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Old 09-07-2021, 05:52 AM   #19
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Well, i did a test.

I set 3 unique fingerprint browsers with 3 Tier1 countries residential IPs.
And made 3 test signups, confirmed emails.
No one lead was counted.
So you sent 3 fake signups and none were counted as real? Hardly conclusive IMO
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So you sent 3 fake signups and none were counted as real? Hardly conclusive IMO
I sent 3 real signups from real residential IPs , different browsers with different fingerprints.
Verified all 3 emails.
This was done 6 months ago, till now i am getting spam to these emails.
No one signup was counted.

Why i did that ?
I tested all popular PPL networks and Crak performed worst out of them all.
So i did test signups to test where is a problem.

This is only my personal experience.
Do test signups by yourself and post results here to be clear.
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Just want to share my recent story with Crakrevenue. After chatting about one of their offers I promote on my review site, I suddenly got info that they will block all traffic coming from my site if:
- I don't remove a category containing keyword "incest"
- Remove like 10 specific sites from listing
- Rename certain categories, etc.

Of course, it's not an easy thing to do to just remove sites where I have closed deals with, rename or remove categories that bring me traffic, etc.

So all my traffic from that site is blocked now. And I'm thinking about sending traffic from other adult sites I have elsewhere as well.

I've been working with them for like 4 years and was quite happy about the collaboration (except affiliate managers exchanging quite often). But this is not a behavior I think I could accept. Them dictating which sites I can list and which not, what categories I can or can't have, etc.
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Just want to share my recent story with Crakrevenue. After chatting about one of their offers I promote on my review site, I suddenly got info that they will block all traffic coming from my site if:
- I don't remove a category containing keyword "incest"
- Remove like 10 specific sites from listing
- Rename certain categories, etc.

Of course, it's not an easy thing to do to just remove sites where I have closed deals with, rename or remove categories that bring me traffic, etc.

So all my traffic from that site is blocked now. And I'm thinking about sending traffic from other adult sites I have elsewhere as well.

I've been working with them for like 4 years and was quite happy about the collaboration (except affiliate managers exchanging quite often). But this is not a behavior I think I could accept. Them dictating which sites I can list and which not, what categories I can or can't have, etc.
I think you should contact them.

In there latest newsletter they announced they want to be closer to their affiliates and created CrakRevenue

It`s small for now so I am fairly sure they answer you fast.
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Old 09-12-2021, 04:13 AM   #23
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I sent 3 real signups from real residential IPs , different browsers with different fingerprints.
Verified all 3 emails.
This was done 6 months ago, till now i am getting spam to these emails.
No one signup was counted.

Why i did that ?
I tested all popular PPL networks and Crak performed worst out of them all.
So i did test signups to test where is a problem.

This is only my personal experience.
Do test signups by yourself and post results here to be clear.

They have a complaint "flair" on their brand new subreddit /r/Crakrevenue - CrakRevenue - drop them a question it will be interesting to see what they will say
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StripCash - 10 082 clicks on affiliate links. 2,68% sign up rate (270 signups). They also have insanely good support and a lot of glamour models.

CamSoda - $150 PPS. Some stats for 1 February 2021 - 12 February 2021: 5098 clicks - 119 Free sign-ups - 7 Paids signups - $1050 Profit
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